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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

Nice theory, but these things don’t happen in a vacuum. If Covid continues to diminish peoples’ quality of life, you may very well see the opposite happen.

And that is what you desperately want to happen which is why you read into studies things that are not there. Meanwhile, the rest of us realize that keeping our kids isolated at home definitely does harm them, and we choose to prioritize preventing the harm we know will happen, vs the theoretical harm that some random people insist will happen to everyone who gets COVID. Especially since so many of us have had COVID, and not only are we fine but our bodies subsequently fought off other infections as well just like they did pre COVID. Long COVID is of course a risk, unfortunately life is full of risks.

My kids are at school right now. They have masks on, but they are at school. Last night we went to a Christmas concert full of unmasked people. We are well aware that life has risks. Saying that that’s what I want is your incorrect opinion. Being concerned about a possibility in the future does not mean you want that to happen.

The reality is unless you get a full work up post Covid, you don’t know. It would be impractical for everyone to do so. And that’s fine that people are willing to accept that risk. I’m not sitting here banging the drum saying everybody go back home. All I’m saying is that I think there is quite a bit to these studies on Covid. Saying that doesn’t mean I’m happy about it. I would expect you could understand the difference.

You are wildly misinterpreting these studies and then spreading misinformation online. That is not cool. You need to recognize there are things you are just not qualified to assert. You should stick to what the authors of the study actually conclude. It might not be as exciting but at least you won't be lying to people.

I quoted the authors directly about follow up post infection. If you don’t like that some of us think that Covid is harmful, then move along.

Great, then stick to that and leave out your editorializing about how everyone is going to go back to masking because their quality of life will be so diminished by long COVID. You are fear mongering and misinterpreting the science.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

Nice theory, but these things don’t happen in a vacuum. If Covid continues to diminish peoples’ quality of life, you may very well see the opposite happen.

And that is what you desperately want to happen which is why you read into studies things that are not there. Meanwhile, the rest of us realize that keeping our kids isolated at home definitely does harm them, and we choose to prioritize preventing the harm we know will happen, vs the theoretical harm that some random people insist will happen to everyone who gets COVID. Especially since so many of us have had COVID, and not only are we fine but our bodies subsequently fought off other infections as well just like they did pre COVID. Long COVID is of course a risk, unfortunately life is full of risks.

My kids are at school right now. They have masks on, but they are at school. Last night we went to a Christmas concert full of unmasked people. We are well aware that life has risks. Saying that that’s what I want is your incorrect opinion. Being concerned about a possibility in the future does not mean you want that to happen.

The reality is unless you get a full work up post Covid, you don’t know. It would be impractical for everyone to do so. And that’s fine that people are willing to accept that risk. I’m not sitting here banging the drum saying everybody go back home. All I’m saying is that I think there is quite a bit to these studies on Covid. Saying that doesn’t mean I’m happy about it. I would expect you could understand the difference.

You are wildly misinterpreting these studies and then spreading misinformation online. That is not cool. You need to recognize there are things you are just not qualified to assert. You should stick to what the authors of the study actually conclude. It might not be as exciting but at least you won't be lying to people.

I quoted the authors directly about follow up post infection. If you don’t like that some of us think that Covid is harmful, then move along.

Great, then stick to that and leave out your editorializing about how everyone is going to go back to masking because their quality of life will be so diminished by long COVID. You are fear mongering and misinterpreting the science.

I NEVER said that. You are the disingenuous one.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

It’s been almost 3 years. When will people give up masks exactly? Most of the families at our daycare are still masking their 2-4yos even though not required anymore and I truly don’t get what the endgame is. Masks are mostly a joke in that environment anyway but clearly they think the minimal benefit is worth it. For how long though?

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

Nice theory, but these things don’t happen in a vacuum. If Covid continues to diminish peoples’ quality of life, you may very well see the opposite happen.

And that is what you desperately want to happen which is why you read into studies things that are not there. Meanwhile, the rest of us realize that keeping our kids isolated at home definitely does harm them, and we choose to prioritize preventing the harm we know will happen, vs the theoretical harm that some random people insist will happen to everyone who gets COVID. Especially since so many of us have had COVID, and not only are we fine but our bodies subsequently fought off other infections as well just like they did pre COVID. Long COVID is of course a risk, unfortunately life is full of risks.

My kids are at school right now. They have masks on, but they are at school. Last night we went to a Christmas concert full of unmasked people. We are well aware that life has risks. Saying that that’s what I want is your incorrect opinion. Being concerned about a possibility in the future does not mean you want that to happen.

The reality is unless you get a full work up post Covid, you don’t know. It would be impractical for everyone to do so. And that’s fine that people are willing to accept that risk. I’m not sitting here banging the drum saying everybody go back home. All I’m saying is that I think there is quite a bit to these studies on Covid. Saying that doesn’t mean I’m happy about it. I would expect you could understand the difference.

You are wildly misinterpreting these studies and then spreading misinformation online. That is not cool. You need to recognize there are things you are just not qualified to assert. You should stick to what the authors of the study actually conclude. It might not be as exciting but at least you won't be lying to people.

I quoted the authors directly about follow up post infection. If you don’t like that some of us think that Covid is harmful, then move along.

Great, then stick to that and leave out your editorializing about how everyone is going to go back to masking because their quality of life will be so diminished by long COVID. You are fear mongering and misinterpreting the science.

I NEVER said that. You are the disingenuous one.

This is an anonymous message board, so I have no way of knowing what exactly you said, but you clearly believe everyone who gets COVID will be impacted by it long term. The studies you are citing and quoting do not support that assertion. You are mischaracterizing them. Stop lying to people. If you have a personal feeling that everyone around you who isn't doing what you are doing is totally screwed, say that, don't pretend the studies support your lunacy and self-righteousness.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

Nice theory, but these things don’t happen in a vacuum. If Covid continues to diminish peoples’ quality of life, you may very well see the opposite happen.

And that is what you desperately want to happen which is why you read into studies things that are not there. Meanwhile, the rest of us realize that keeping our kids isolated at home definitely does harm them, and we choose to prioritize preventing the harm we know will happen, vs the theoretical harm that some random people insist will happen to everyone who gets COVID. Especially since so many of us have had COVID, and not only are we fine but our bodies subsequently fought off other infections as well just like they did pre COVID. Long COVID is of course a risk, unfortunately life is full of risks.

My kids are at school right now. They have masks on, but they are at school. Last night we went to a Christmas concert full of unmasked people. We are well aware that life has risks. Saying that that’s what I want is your incorrect opinion. Being concerned about a possibility in the future does not mean you want that to happen.

The reality is unless you get a full work up post Covid, you don’t know. It would be impractical for everyone to do so. And that’s fine that people are willing to accept that risk. I’m not sitting here banging the drum saying everybody go back home. All I’m saying is that I think there is quite a bit to these studies on Covid. Saying that doesn’t mean I’m happy about it. I would expect you could understand the difference.

You are wildly misinterpreting these studies and then spreading misinformation online. That is not cool. You need to recognize there are things you are just not qualified to assert. You should stick to what the authors of the study actually conclude. It might not be as exciting but at least you won't be lying to people.

I quoted the authors directly about follow up post infection. If you don’t like that some of us think that Covid is harmful, then move along.

Great, then stick to that and leave out your editorializing about how everyone is going to go back to masking because their quality of life will be so diminished by long COVID. You are fear mongering and misinterpreting the science.

I NEVER said that. You are the disingenuous one.

This is an anonymous message board, so I have no way of knowing what exactly you said, but you clearly believe everyone who gets COVID will be impacted by it long term. The studies you are citing and quoting do not support that assertion. You are mischaracterizing them. Stop lying to people. If you have a personal feeling that everyone around you who isn't doing what you are doing is totally screwed, say that, don't pretend the studies support your lunacy and self-righteousness.

Where have I been self righteous? You sure sound it though.

I am very careful with my words and have said “may” in response to others saying “will”. You don’t have a problem with their stating assumptions as fact I noticed, since you see them as on your side.

I fear everyone may become impacted even if indirectly because the costs of long Covid alone are likely in the trillions now. I never once said people who aren’t doing what I am doing are totally screwed. That is your inference. You sound unsettled at the prospect.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

Nice theory, but these things don’t happen in a vacuum. If Covid continues to diminish peoples’ quality of life, you may very well see the opposite happen.

And that is what you desperately want to happen which is why you read into studies things that are not there. Meanwhile, the rest of us realize that keeping our kids isolated at home definitely does harm them, and we choose to prioritize preventing the harm we know will happen, vs the theoretical harm that some random people insist will happen to everyone who gets COVID. Especially since so many of us have had COVID, and not only are we fine but our bodies subsequently fought off other infections as well just like they did pre COVID. Long COVID is of course a risk, unfortunately life is full of risks.

My kids are at school right now. They have masks on, but they are at school. Last night we went to a Christmas concert full of unmasked people. We are well aware that life has risks. Saying that that’s what I want is your incorrect opinion. Being concerned about a possibility in the future does not mean you want that to happen.

The reality is unless you get a full work up post Covid, you don’t know. It would be impractical for everyone to do so. And that’s fine that people are willing to accept that risk. I’m not sitting here banging the drum saying everybody go back home. All I’m saying is that I think there is quite a bit to these studies on Covid. Saying that doesn’t mean I’m happy about it. I would expect you could understand the difference.

You are wildly misinterpreting these studies and then spreading misinformation online. That is not cool. You need to recognize there are things you are just not qualified to assert. You should stick to what the authors of the study actually conclude. It might not be as exciting but at least you won't be lying to people.

I quoted the authors directly about follow up post infection. If you don’t like that some of us think that Covid is harmful, then move along.

Great, then stick to that and leave out your editorializing about how everyone is going to go back to masking because their quality of life will be so diminished by long COVID. You are fear mongering and misinterpreting the science.

I NEVER said that. You are the disingenuous one.

This is an anonymous message board, so I have no way of knowing what exactly you said, but you clearly believe everyone who gets COVID will be impacted by it long term. The studies you are citing and quoting do not support that assertion. You are mischaracterizing them. Stop lying to people. If you have a personal feeling that everyone around you who isn't doing what you are doing is totally screwed, say that, don't pretend the studies support your lunacy and self-righteousness.

Where have I been self righteous? You sure sound it though.

I am very careful with my words and have said “may” in response to others saying “will”. You don’t have a problem with their stating assumptions as fact I noticed, since you see them as on your side.

I fear everyone may become impacted even if indirectly because the costs of long Covid alone are likely in the trillions now. I never once said people who aren’t doing what I am doing are totally screwed. That is your inference. You sound unsettled at the prospect.

Okay, at this point I have no idea what you are talking about. Just like I don't know which posts you made, you don't know which posts I made.

Yes, I am unsettled about people who post misinformation online. As you know, misinformation can be quite harmful. Your "fears" are just that, to cite studies that supposedly support them, when they do not, is dishonest. You're obviously not willing to admit that, which is unsurprising since you are a dishonest person.

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DP but PP should lay off calling people psychopaths, P.O.S., dishonest, etc. Stop. You are the problem.

You asked for studies and PP has cited several and characterized them honestly and appropriately.

Please take some time for yourself and go for a walk or get some air. Stop typing and take a break. I say this sincerely. Take some downtime for you and for your child. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:DP but PP should lay off calling people psychopaths, P.O.S., dishonest, etc. Stop. You are the problem.

You asked for studies and PP has cited several and characterized them honestly and appropriately.

Please take some time for yourself and go for a walk or get some air. Stop typing and take a break. I say this sincerely. Take some downtime for you and for your child. Good luck.

Pot meet kettle?

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Anonymous wrote:DP but PP should lay off calling people psychopaths, P.O.S., dishonest, etc. Stop. You are the problem.

You asked for studies and PP has cited several and characterized them honestly and appropriately.

Please take some time for yourself and go for a walk or get some air. Stop typing and take a break. I say this sincerely. Take some downtime for you and for your child. Good luck.

No, they haven't.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

It’s been almost 3 years. When will people give up masks exactly? Most of the families at our daycare are still masking their 2-4yos even though not required anymore and I truly don’t get what the endgame is. Masks are mostly a joke in that environment anyway but clearly they think the minimal benefit is worth it. For how long though?

Why not ask them? The endgame for them is to probably limit Covid infections in their chidren, but I can't read their minds. That's our reason to mask our school age kids.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

Nice theory, but these things don’t happen in a vacuum. If Covid continues to diminish peoples’ quality of life, you may very well see the opposite happen.

And that is what you desperately want to happen which is why you read into studies things that are not there. Meanwhile, the rest of us realize that keeping our kids isolated at home definitely does harm them, and we choose to prioritize preventing the harm we know will happen, vs the theoretical harm that some random people insist will happen to everyone who gets COVID. Especially since so many of us have had COVID, and not only are we fine but our bodies subsequently fought off other infections as well just like they did pre COVID. Long COVID is of course a risk, unfortunately life is full of risks.

My kids are at school right now. They have masks on, but they are at school. Last night we went to a Christmas concert full of unmasked people. We are well aware that life has risks. Saying that that’s what I want is your incorrect opinion. Being concerned about a possibility in the future does not mean you want that to happen.

The reality is unless you get a full work up post Covid, you don’t know. It would be impractical for everyone to do so. And that’s fine that people are willing to accept that risk. I’m not sitting here banging the drum saying everybody go back home. All I’m saying is that I think there is quite a bit to these studies on Covid. Saying that doesn’t mean I’m happy about it. I would expect you could understand the difference.

You are wildly misinterpreting these studies and then spreading misinformation online. That is not cool. You need to recognize there are things you are just not qualified to assert. You should stick to what the authors of the study actually conclude. It might not be as exciting but at least you won't be lying to people.

I quoted the authors directly about follow up post infection. If you don’t like that some of us think that Covid is harmful, then move along.

Great, then stick to that and leave out your editorializing about how everyone is going to go back to masking because their quality of life will be so diminished by long COVID. You are fear mongering and misinterpreting the science.

I NEVER said that. You are the disingenuous one.

This is an anonymous message board, so I have no way of knowing what exactly you said, but you clearly believe everyone who gets COVID will be impacted by it long term. The studies you are citing and quoting do not support that assertion. You are mischaracterizing them. Stop lying to people. If you have a personal feeling that everyone around you who isn't doing what you are doing is totally screwed, say that, don't pretend the studies support your lunacy and self-righteousness.

Where have I been self righteous? You sure sound it though.

I am very careful with my words and have said “may” in response to others saying “will”. You don’t have a problem with their stating assumptions as fact I noticed, since you see them as on your side.

I fear everyone may become impacted even if indirectly because the costs of long Covid alone are likely in the trillions now. I never once said people who aren’t doing what I am doing are totally screwed. That is your inference. You sound unsettled at the prospect.

Okay, at this point I have no idea what you are talking about. Just like I don't know which posts you made, you don't know which posts I made.

Yes, I am unsettled about people who post misinformation online. As you know, misinformation can be quite harmful. Your "fears" are just that, to cite studies that supposedly support them, when they do not, is dishonest. You're obviously not willing to admit that, which is unsurprising since you are a dishonest person.

I never said you can assume effects in severe cases definitely carry over to mild infections. I simply said you can't discount the effect of Covid on the brain in severe cases of autopsied patients. I said that because the mechanism by which it ages the brain COULD also be why milder cases experience brain fog and other neurological issues. I stated nothing as definitive cause and effect, despite your repeated attempts to characterize me that way.

And I have been called a fear monger many times on this page when I said:

Covid likely coming to US (back in early Feb 2020) and will dramatically change life as we know it

Strong evidence that Covid is airborne

Kids likely do catch Covid

Kids likely do spread Covid

Immunity debt not likely the reason for RSV and flu surges

I have never once acted like I have all the answers, and if I could wipe Covid off the face of the earth by giving my right arm, I sure as hell would. It's easy to characterize people who say things you find uncomfortable as crazy or fear mongers, but if they aren't stating their theories as fact, but rather expressing opinions to explain what could be going on, trying to shut them down on a discussion board is kind of absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

It’s been almost 3 years. When will people give up masks exactly? Most of the families at our daycare are still masking their 2-4yos even though not required anymore and I truly don’t get what the endgame is. Masks are mostly a joke in that environment anyway but clearly they think the minimal benefit is worth it. For how long though?

Why not ask them? The endgame for them is to probably limit Covid infections in their chidren, but I can't read their minds. That's our reason to mask our school age kids.

DP you know exactly why we don't ask. Because anyone who questions masking, even toddler masking, gets accused of causing mass death/disability (see the first page of this thread). Even our therapist, who indicated privately to me that DD's in-school therapy would be easier without masks (and in fact once they dropped the mask requirement for everyone suddenly we saw a lot of progress) did not want to come out and say that to the teachers. It had been a struggle to get them to even allow the therapist into the school, so it was a very calculated decision.

What this really comes down to is for how long should the general population make sacrifices to prevent death/disability in a small (but definitely significant) percentage of people. And how do we decide which sacrifices are worth it? What I see a lot on these boards is that folks do not think masking (of toddlers or older children and adults) or avoiding indoor activities is a sacrifice at all, and that COVID precautions don't cause any significant harm. Many of us did change our behavior significantly in 2020-2021 because we do recognize that COVID is serious. By the time 2022 rolled around, it became clear that the cost to ourselves and our child was too much. These precautions are fine for short periods of time. When they are in place for years, for many of us the harms build up. Maybe you haven't experienced that in your family and that's great. But we have and the harms are real. It's a risk though, to say this publicly, because those that haven't had the issues we have deny that they even exist and think of us as murderers. No thanks. The risk is not worth the benefit of such a conversation. I will stick to the people in my life who recognize that different people have different priorities and priorities other than COVID are valid.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

Nice theory, but these things don’t happen in a vacuum. If Covid continues to diminish peoples’ quality of life, you may very well see the opposite happen.

And that is what you desperately want to happen which is why you read into studies things that are not there. Meanwhile, the rest of us realize that keeping our kids isolated at home definitely does harm them, and we choose to prioritize preventing the harm we know will happen, vs the theoretical harm that some random people insist will happen to everyone who gets COVID. Especially since so many of us have had COVID, and not only are we fine but our bodies subsequently fought off other infections as well just like they did pre COVID. Long COVID is of course a risk, unfortunately life is full of risks.

My kids are at school right now. They have masks on, but they are at school. Last night we went to a Christmas concert full of unmasked people. We are well aware that life has risks. Saying that that’s what I want is your incorrect opinion. Being concerned about a possibility in the future does not mean you want that to happen.

The reality is unless you get a full work up post Covid, you don’t know. It would be impractical for everyone to do so. And that’s fine that people are willing to accept that risk. I’m not sitting here banging the drum saying everybody go back home. All I’m saying is that I think there is quite a bit to these studies on Covid. Saying that doesn’t mean I’m happy about it. I would expect you could understand the difference.

You are wildly misinterpreting these studies and then spreading misinformation online. That is not cool. You need to recognize there are things you are just not qualified to assert. You should stick to what the authors of the study actually conclude. It might not be as exciting but at least you won't be lying to people.

I quoted the authors directly about follow up post infection. If you don’t like that some of us think that Covid is harmful, then move along.

Great, then stick to that and leave out your editorializing about how everyone is going to go back to masking because their quality of life will be so diminished by long COVID. You are fear mongering and misinterpreting the science.

I NEVER said that. You are the disingenuous one.

This is an anonymous message board, so I have no way of knowing what exactly you said, but you clearly believe everyone who gets COVID will be impacted by it long term. The studies you are citing and quoting do not support that assertion. You are mischaracterizing them. Stop lying to people. If you have a personal feeling that everyone around you who isn't doing what you are doing is totally screwed, say that, don't pretend the studies support your lunacy and self-righteousness.

Where have I been self righteous? You sure sound it though.

I am very careful with my words and have said “may” in response to others saying “will”. You don’t have a problem with their stating assumptions as fact I noticed, since you see them as on your side.

I fear everyone may become impacted even if indirectly because the costs of long Covid alone are likely in the trillions now. I never once said people who aren’t doing what I am doing are totally screwed. That is your inference. You sound unsettled at the prospect.

Okay, at this point I have no idea what you are talking about. Just like I don't know which posts you made, you don't know which posts I made.

Yes, I am unsettled about people who post misinformation online. As you know, misinformation can be quite harmful. Your "fears" are just that, to cite studies that supposedly support them, when they do not, is dishonest. You're obviously not willing to admit that, which is unsurprising since you are a dishonest person.

I never said you can assume effects in severe cases definitely carry over to mild infections. I simply said you can't discount the effect of Covid on the brain in severe cases of autopsied patients. I said that because the mechanism by which it ages the brain COULD also be why milder cases experience brain fog and other neurological issues. I stated nothing as definitive cause and effect, despite your repeated attempts to characterize me that way.

And I have been called a fear monger many times on this page when I said:

Covid likely coming to US (back in early Feb 2020) and will dramatically change life as we know it

Strong evidence that Covid is airborne

Kids likely do catch Covid

Kids likely do spread Covid

Immunity debt not likely the reason for RSV and flu surges

I have never once acted like I have all the answers, and if I could wipe Covid off the face of the earth by giving my right arm, I sure as hell would. It's easy to characterize people who say things you find uncomfortable as crazy or fear mongers, but if they aren't stating their theories as fact, but rather expressing opinions to explain what could be going on, trying to shut them down on a discussion board is kind of absurd.

I am so glad that we can agree that the studies you cited do not offer evidence of long term harm in mild cases of COVID. I suspect you'll continue to cite these studies to support your personal feeling that they do, which is incredibly dishonest.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

It’s been almost 3 years. When will people give up masks exactly? Most of the families at our daycare are still masking their 2-4yos even though not required anymore and I truly don’t get what the endgame is. Masks are mostly a joke in that environment anyway but clearly they think the minimal benefit is worth it. For how long though?

There was a separate thread on this. The answer is: IDK.

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Anonymous wrote:They are riding high on the moral ground that COVID gives them to look down on anyone who doesn't agree with them. "I'm such a good person! I wear my mask! I do whatever the cdc tells me to do. If Fauci says boost, I say shoot me up!"

Thankfully this forum isn't real life. No one cares irl.

It differs from place to place. My in laws live in a community full of Trumpsters and nearly everyone is unmasked and few are fully vaccinated let alone boosted. Although many of their neighbors and coworkers have had Covid more than once or are struggling with long Covid, they can’t deviate from what the people around them do. Yet they are shocked when Grandma dies or Junior is hospitalized.

Both are wrong. COVID purity moralizing is extremely off putting. Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior. If you are just literally posting about rising case rates or your personal experience with long COVID, I do think that can be valuable. But if you are just shouting into the abyss about people not taking COVID seriously enough, you're not achieving anything.

Please take your admonishment that "Nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to be convinced to change their behavior" to heart. People have picked their sides at this point. Thinking of people on the other side of the line from you as psychopaths and P.O.S. isn't helping sway them to your side, and I don't think it's healthy mentally for the person who's doing it, either.

I don't think of "people on the other side of the line" are psychopaths and P O Ss. I think there are some pro mask/lockdown posters who behave horribly/dishonestly on these boards who are P O Ss and psychopaths. These are people who post falsehoods repeatedly and ignore when someone posts proof that they are wrong. People who say any child's mental illness was caused by their parents. I've seen that gem a lot. People who insist than anyone who isn't masking right now didn't make any sacrifices in 2020-21 - also a common talking point. Those posters are psychopaths.

Everyone on the pro-masking side will eventually give up masks. In other words, the people in favor of normalcy will "win." It's truly crazy that people are planning on giving up normal socialization for themselves and their children indefinitely. Lack of normal socializing will also cause changes to the brain and remodeling of circuitry...

It’s been almost 3 years. When will people give up masks exactly? Most of the families at our daycare are still masking their 2-4yos even though not required anymore and I truly don’t get what the endgame is. Masks are mostly a joke in that environment anyway but clearly they think the minimal benefit is worth it. For how long though?

Why not ask them? The endgame for them is to probably limit Covid infections in their chidren, but I can't read their minds. That's our reason to mask our school age kids.

DP you know exactly why we don't ask. Because anyone who questions masking, even toddler masking, gets accused of causing mass death/disability (see the first page of this thread). Even our therapist, who indicated privately to me that DD's in-school therapy would be easier without masks (and in fact once they dropped the mask requirement for everyone suddenly we saw a lot of progress) did not want to come out and say that to the teachers. It had been a struggle to get them to even allow the therapist into the school, so it was a very calculated decision.

What this really comes down to is for how long should the general population make sacrifices to prevent death/disability in a small (but definitely significant) percentage of people. And how do we decide which sacrifices are worth it? What I see a lot on these boards is that folks do not think masking (of toddlers or older children and adults) or avoiding indoor activities is a sacrifice at all, and that COVID precautions don't cause any significant harm. Many of us did change our behavior significantly in 2020-2021 because we do recognize that COVID is serious. By the time 2022 rolled around, it became clear that the cost to ourselves and our child was too much. These precautions are fine for short periods of time. When they are in place for years, for many of us the harms build up. Maybe you haven't experienced that in your family and that's great. But we have and the harms are real. It's a risk though, to say this publicly, because those that haven't had the issues we have deny that they even exist and think of us as murderers. No thanks. The risk is not worth the benefit of such a conversation. I will stick to the people in my life who recognize that different people have different priorities and priorities other than COVID are valid.

Of course our kids have experienced Covid related frustrations. It's not fun to be the only kid sitting outside for lunch, or any number of situations that they deal with. And I don't know anyone who would prefer to wear masks if there were zero perceived threat. People approach risk differently. If you child is able to receive maskless therapy right now, that's great and I hope it continues. I don't think forcing toddlers to mask is fair either, despite all the assumptions made about me because I mask. If mandates ever came back, I would support exceptions for small children and certain other children. Just don't judge parents who do mask their toddlers. They aren't your enemy.

We aren't giving up the masks in our house because we have found workarounds. We try to live a full life, but to us, the risk of infection is high to long term quality of life. If that calculus changes, so will our behavior. I certainly hope it does, but for now that's where we are at.