Why are Northern Kids Flocking to Southern Universities?

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I think folks in the south would probably prefer that people like your daughter stay in the progressive NE. So everyone wins... +1 Nothing wrong with different choices. Bryn Mawr and Mt Holyoke students probably wouldn't like UGA, Emory, UNC, Davidson, Vanderbilt, etc.

I haven't visited UGA or Emory lately, but LGBT+ kids are absolutely welcome at UNC, Davidson & Vandy. The issue for many of course isn't the schools or student bodies, it's the intolerance in the state legislatures.

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A friendly campus doesn’t negate the state laws

VA is taking away transgender protections that had been passed only a couple years ago. It is infuriating

Even if this is happening, very few college students are transgender. No one even knew what transgender was a decade or so ago. So the average college student doesn’t need to be protected by legislation for being transgender because they aren’t transgender.

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Because they’re generally significantly easier to get into. The end.

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I went to a well-respected, albeit large, university in the Northeast. I cannot fault these kids who want to attend a flagship school in the south with (gasp) an SEC football team. Living in DC, I’ve had an opportunity to accompany co-workers and friends to “real” college football games and it’s a game changer (for lack of a better word). School spirit oozes from those schools and it completely permeates everything about the college experience. Then, after college, it gives graduates something to bond over. You don’t have that with the SUNY schools, for example.

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27 pages for something that's not hard to figure out....

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Anonymous wrote:Many kids are being pushed out of their home states - too many applicants willing to prep prep prep… they want a more traditional American experience

This is white flight on a national level. Just admit it. No need to use the word 'traditional" when we all know you mean white.

I don’t think that’s a good analogy. The white kids are more like a poor community being priced out of a gentrifying neighborhood.

White kids literally can’t get into the northern schools any more. And the position of the Asian American community on here seems to be that that is right and good, that higher stats Asian American students have a constitutional right to those seats.

So it’s more than a little rich to cry “racism” when the exact same kids you worked so hard to keep out of elite northern schools go to school somewhere else. What did you expect them to do?

How do you figure that? If anything, it is more difficult for the Asian American community to get into elite/top schools.. I know TJ kids, who would eat anyone in stats AND ECs at several base schools that had to "settle" for UCLA/Michigan level schools when kids who were prancing around at base schools (all White) waltzed into T20 private schools like Brown, Vandy, etc.

Did you account for the influence of ED/Full Pay preference at Brown, et. al?

Yes - most Asians with the grades and res for brown in this area easily can swing full pay at brown and similar schools

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a well-respected, albeit large, university in the Northeast. I cannot fault these kids who want to attend a flagship school in the south with (gasp) an SEC football team. Living in DC, I’ve had an opportunity to accompany co-workers and friends to “real” college football games and it’s a game changer (for lack of a better word). School spirit oozes from those schools and it completely permeates everything about the college experience. Then, after college, it gives graduates something to bond over. You don’t have that with the SUNY schools, for example.

Princeton and Dartmouth and Wellesley have better school spirit than anything in the south…

….look at % of giving rates, reunion engagement, and networking.

Southern school spirit is very superficial.

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Anonymous wrote:“Hot coeds”? Is it 1983?

In 2022, being “hot” actually is even more important than it was in 1983 due to social media.

The median person looked better in 1983 but the top 20% in 2022 are way more attractive and “looks focused” than in 1983

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think folks in the south would probably prefer that people like your daughter stay in the progressive NE. So everyone wins... +1 Nothing wrong with different choices. Bryn Mawr and Mt Holyoke students probably wouldn't like UGA, Emory, UNC, Davidson, Vanderbilt, etc.

I haven't visited UGA or Emory lately, but LGBT+ kids are absolutely welcome at UNC, Davidson & Vandy. The issue for many of course isn't the schools or student bodies, it's the intolerance in the state legislatures.

This

A friendly campus doesn’t negate the state laws

VA is taking away transgender protections that had been passed only a couple years ago. It is infuriating

Even if this is happening, very few college students are transgender. No one even knew what transgender was a decade or so ago. So the average college student doesn’t need to be protected by legislation for being transgender because they aren’t transgender.

I was using this as an example. Many of these states have incredibly regressive social policies. There are students who care about these things whether it personally affects them or not.

Look, I get that some kids don’t care and others are choosing to go to these places to try to change things. But posters claiming no one cares are ridiculous. I know plenty of families, including my own, that are ruling out states based on regressive state policies.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a well-respected, albeit large, university in the Northeast. I cannot fault these kids who want to attend a flagship school in the south with (gasp) an SEC football team. Living in DC, I’ve had an opportunity to accompany co-workers and friends to “real” college football games and it’s a game changer (for lack of a better word). School spirit oozes from those schools and it completely permeates everything about the college experience. Then, after college, it gives graduates something to bond over. You don’t have that with the SUNY schools, for example.

Thanks, I'll make sure my kid goes to a college with "real" football teams... Because that's what matters!

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a well-respected, albeit large, university in the Northeast. I cannot fault these kids who want to attend a flagship school in the south with (gasp) an SEC football team. Living in DC, I’ve had an opportunity to accompany co-workers and friends to “real” college football games and it’s a game changer (for lack of a better word). School spirit oozes from those schools and it completely permeates everything about the college experience. Then, after college, it gives graduates something to bond over. You don’t have that with the SUNY schools, for example.

Um, have you ever been to a football game at Michigan or Notre Dame or Wisconsin or Ohio State? It's a "real" college football experience just like in the SEC, except the students may have to bundle up (which is hardly a big deal).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think folks in the south would probably prefer that people like your daughter stay in the progressive NE. So everyone wins... +1 Nothing wrong with different choices. Bryn Mawr and Mt Holyoke students probably wouldn't like UGA, Emory, UNC, Davidson, Vanderbilt, etc.

I haven't visited UGA or Emory lately, but LGBT+ kids are absolutely welcome at UNC, Davidson & Vandy. The issue for many of course isn't the schools or student bodies, it's the intolerance in the state legislatures.

This

A friendly campus doesn’t negate the state laws

VA is taking away transgender protections that had been passed only a couple years ago. It is infuriating

Even if this is happening, very few college students are transgender. No one even knew what transgender was a decade or so ago. So the average college student doesn’t need to be protected by legislation for being transgender because they aren’t transgender.

The average college student might care about other people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I think folks in the south would probably prefer that people like your daughter stay in the progressive NE. So everyone wins... +1 Nothing wrong with different choices. Bryn Mawr and Mt Holyoke students probably wouldn't like UGA, Emory, UNC, Davidson, Vanderbilt, etc.

I haven't visited UGA or Emory lately, but LGBT+ kids are absolutely welcome at UNC, Davidson & Vandy. The issue for many of course isn't the schools or student bodies, it's the intolerance in the state legislatures.

This

A friendly campus doesn’t negate the state laws

VA is taking away transgender protections that had been passed only a couple years ago. It is infuriating

Even if this is happening, very few college students are transgender. No one even knew what transgender was a decade or so ago. So the average college student doesn’t need to be protected by legislation for being transgender because they aren’t transgender.

I was using this as an example. Many of these states have incredibly regressive social policies. There are students who care about these things whether it personally affects them or not.

Look, I get that some kids don’t care and others are choosing to go to these places to try to change things. But posters claiming no one cares are ridiculous. I know plenty of families, including my own, that are ruling out states based on regressive state policies.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a well-respected, albeit large, university in the Northeast. I cannot fault these kids who want to attend a flagship school in the south with (gasp) an SEC football team. Living in DC, I’ve had an opportunity to accompany co-workers and friends to “real” college football games and it’s a game changer (for lack of a better word). School spirit oozes from those schools and it completely permeates everything about the college experience. Then, after college, it gives graduates something to bond over. You don’t have that with the SUNY schools, for example.

Um, have you ever been to a football game at Michigan or Notre Dame or Wisconsin or Ohio State? It's a "real" college football experience just like in the SEC, except the students may have to bundle up (which is hardly a big deal).

The PP wasn't talking about those schools. They were talking about schools like SUNY schools. Sure, Michigan, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and Ohio State provide great football experiences. Many students pick those schools for the football fan experience. They are also much harder to get into than the Southern schools being discussed, so I'm not sure how their football culture is relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to a well-respected, albeit large, university in the Northeast. I cannot fault these kids who want to attend a flagship school in the south with (gasp) an SEC football team. Living in DC, I’ve had an opportunity to accompany co-workers and friends to “real” college football games and it’s a game changer (for lack of a better word). School spirit oozes from those schools and it completely permeates everything about the college experience. Then, after college, it gives graduates something to bond over. You don’t have that with the SUNY schools, for example.

Princeton and Dartmouth and Wellesley have better school spirit than anything in the south…

….look at % of giving rates, reunion engagement, and networking.

Southern school spirit is very superficial.

That tailgate buzz only lasts so far.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Hot coeds”? Is it 1983?

Look at the entertainment industry and the dress and gyrations of female performers. We're told that they're really very intelligent and to not view them as sex symbols, yet ... it's what many people seem to admire in 2022.

Yes, the hypersexualization of young women persists. But the term “hot coed” is boomer.