Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Rebecca turn this off? Was this pure error or were they ordered to because of the still unnamed VIP? This is why we need to know who the VIP was.

I suspect they always fly without it. It wouldn't work in a war zone anyway and would just be a distraction.

No, but they can turn it off when they want to be invisible.

How do you explain the FlightAware data from ADS-B that was turned on over Saudi property? Can you pick one conspiracy and stick with it?

Conspiracy? All I said was that they don’t always fly without it and that military aircraft can disable their ADS-B, preventing their position from being broadcast. This helps them stay off flight tracking systems when necessary, especially during sensitive operations. In this case, we don’t know what happened with ADS-B, so we should wait for the official report.

I see Blackhawks fly over most days. I’ve only seen one show up on a flight app, and that was probably because they forgot to turn it off. The others in the group did not appear.

I click around on FlightRadar24 all the time to see what’s flying, both here and all over the country, and rarely saw military aircraft show up anywhere until a few days ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Rebecca turn this off? Was this pure error or were they ordered to because of the still unnamed VIP? This is why we need to know who the VIP was.

The VIP wasn’t on the plane. It is IRRELEVANT.

It was likely never on in the first place. The whole thing looks like a problem with pilots and their training.

The manifest before they dropped off the VIP(s) is most relevant. And the more you shills dig in the more curious we all are about who it was.

Nope. Irrelevant. Go find another irrelevant side quest on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Rebecca turn this off? Was this pure error or were they ordered to because of the still unnamed VIP? This is why we need to know who the VIP was.

The VIP wasn’t on the plane. It is IRRELEVANT.

It was likely never on in the first place. The whole thing looks like a problem with pilots and their training.

The manifest before they dropped off the VIP(s) is most relevant. And the more you shills dig in the more curious we all are about who it was.

No one outside of DC cares.

They absolutely do. For some bizarre reason, you desperately want them not to. So weird.

lol, keep telling yourself that PP.

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Anonymous wrote:Now a plane just crashed in Alaska, with all on board dead.

Neither this flight (terrible weather) nor the medical flight (private aviation, foreign trained pilots) concern me nearly as much as the DCA crash. People trying to equate them are silly.

Same. The DCA crash has brought to light that our military pilots are not as well trained as people perceive. If you aren’t trained to fly through DC safely, that doesn’t bode well for being battle ready

Agree.
Maybe someone else should be piloting Black hawks, like only AF or navy pilots or rangers. Someone who can get more hours a year at the cockpit controls.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't read the more recent posts on the 239! pages. Any word on who was being transported in the BH between whereever it was they were? Was it actually a vip and whom?

Of course you haven’t read the em, they’re all your own posts harping on VIPs fake conspiracy stories. Keep it up PP, so cool!

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't read the more recent posts on the 239! pages. Any word on who was being transported in the BH between whereever it was they were? Was it actually a vip and whom?

They weren’t transporting anyone. It was just the 3 of them in the helicopter.

They began the route at Langley in McLean. That’s not a training run.

There were over 40 close calls over the last few years. It could have been any flight. So what if you get a list of everyone who has been in a helicopter in that area over the last few years who created danger by using a helicopter in a congested airspace. What are you going to do with that information?

There are two separate problems. Yeah, there are close calls all the time. That’s a known problem.

The other problem is that it’s possible this flight never should have happened. We have an administration that likes to treat themselves and their friends to buildings, servers, documents, and benefits that they are not entitled to. If someone who doesn’t qualify for VIP flights got one, that’s reckless. Oh, and it’s fraud, waste, and abuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Rebecca turn this off? Was this pure error or were they ordered to because of the still unnamed VIP? This is why we need to know who the VIP was.

I suspect they always fly without it. It wouldn't work in a war zone anyway and would just be a distraction.

No, but they can turn it off when they want to be invisible.

How do you explain the FlightAware data from ADS-B that was turned on over Saudi property? Can you pick one conspiracy and stick with it?

Conspiracy? All I said was that they don’t always fly without it and that military aircraft can disable their ADS-B, preventing their position from being broadcast. This helps them stay off flight tracking systems when necessary, especially during sensitive operations. In this case, we don’t know what happened with ADS-B, so we should wait for the official report.

I see Blackhawks fly over most days. I’ve only seen one show up on a flight app, and that was probably because they forgot to turn it off. The others in the group did not appear.

I click around on FlightRadar24 all the time to see what’s flying, both here and all over the country, and rarely saw military aircraft show up anywhere until a few days ago.

I see the occasional C-17, maybe some other transport stuff, that’s about it. It was interesting watching the Black Sea area earlier in the war there, lots to see.

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Anonymous wrote:Haven't read the more recent posts on the 239! pages. Any word on who was being transported in the BH between whereever it was they were? Was it actually a vip and whom?

We probably won’t know bc it doesn’t matter. Helicopters are/were authorized to use that route and airspace. Whether VIP or getting Trump McDonald’s. Just as commercial jets are authorized in that space because someone wants to visit Aunt Maude.

What we do know is this crash shouldn’t have happened and the only reasons we know so far are due to multiple errors from the pilots. They 1) got off course 2) were at wrong altitude 3) didn’t have the appropriate anti collision radar on 4) were inappropriately wearing night vision goggles

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I doubt there was a VIP on board ever. And I doubt that the helicopter took off from Langley.

On day 1, Hangover Hesgeth said it was a continuity of government training exercise. It took off from Belvoir or Bolling and went to Mt. Weather. In order to prevent having the route monitored, they turned the transponder off when they got (initially) to Langley. On the way back they turned the transponder on when they got to Langley so as to be seen by ATC when they re-entered airspace used by DCA. No VIP. Simple.

Why would a training flight have a VIP onboard? Waste of time for the VIP and training missions carrying an actual VIP are no longer training missions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now a plane just crashed in Alaska, with all on board dead.

Neither this flight (terrible weather) nor the medical flight (private aviation, foreign trained pilots) concern me nearly as much as the DCA crash. People trying to equate them are silly.

Same. The DCA crash has brought to light that our military pilots are not as well trained as people perceive. If you aren’t trained to fly through DC safely, that doesn’t bode well for being battle ready

No. You’re making giant leaps in logic.

Nope. There is no clear reason for that crash other than pilot incompetence

A Blackhawk pilot posted on another forum that many pilots are competing for flying hours. I just assumed a pilot could get flight hours whenever they wanted to fly. Didn’t know there was a pecking order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Rebecca turn this off? Was this pure error or were they ordered to because of the still unnamed VIP? This is why we need to know who the VIP was.

I suspect they always fly without it. It wouldn't work in a war zone anyway and would just be a distraction.

No, but they can turn it off when they want to be invisible.

How do you explain the FlightAware data from ADS-B that was turned on over Saudi property? Can you pick one conspiracy and stick with it?

Conspiracy? All I said was that they don’t always fly without it and that military aircraft can disable their ADS-B, preventing their position from being broadcast. This helps them stay off flight tracking systems when necessary, especially during sensitive operations. In this case, we don’t know what happened with ADS-B, so we should wait for the official report.

I see Blackhawks fly over most days. I’ve only seen one show up on a flight app, and that was probably because they forgot to turn it off. The others in the group did not appear.

I click around on FlightRadar24 all the time to see what’s flying, both here and all over the country, and rarely saw military aircraft show up anywhere until a few days ago.

guess you don’t know anyone who lives or works in Old Town. See military helos weekly and more if you just sat there looking west.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Haven't read the more recent posts on the 239! pages. Any word on who was being transported in the BH between whereever it was they were? Was it actually a vip and whom?

They weren’t transporting anyone. It was just the 3 of them in the helicopter.

They began the route at Langley in McLean. That’s not a training run.

There were over 40 close calls over the last few years. It could have been any flight. So what if you get a list of everyone who has been in a helicopter in that area over the last few years who created danger by using a helicopter in a congested airspace. What are you going to do with that information?

There are two separate problems. Yeah, there are close calls all the time. That’s a known problem.

The other problem is that it’s possible this flight never should have happened. We have an administration that likes to treat themselves and their friends to buildings, servers, documents, and benefits that they are not entitled to. If someone who doesn’t qualify for VIP flights got one, that’s reckless. Oh, and it’s fraud, waste, and abuse.

Maybe someone in the military or reserves can explain checkride requirements and scheduling to you again some day.
Meanwhile don’t quit your remote blogger job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now a plane just crashed in Alaska, with all on board dead.

Neither this flight (terrible weather) nor the medical flight (private aviation, foreign trained pilots) concern me nearly as much as the DCA crash. People trying to equate them are silly.

Same. The DCA crash has brought to light that our military pilots are not as well trained as people perceive. If you aren’t trained to fly through DC safely, that doesn’t bode well for being battle ready

No. You’re making giant leaps in logic.

Nope. There is no clear reason for that crash other than pilot incompetence

A Blackhawk pilot posted on another forum that many pilots are competing for flying hours. I just assumed a pilot could get flight hours whenever they wanted to fly. Didn’t know there was a pecking order.

Wtf.

That’d be all the time. Ever meet or know a pilot?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why did Rebecca turn this off? Was this pure error or were they ordered to because of the still unnamed VIP? This is why we need to know who the VIP was.

I suspect they always fly without it. It wouldn't work in a war zone anyway and would just be a distraction.

No, but they can turn it off when they want to be invisible.

How do you explain the FlightAware data from ADS-B that was turned on over Saudi property? Can you pick one conspiracy and stick with it?

Conspiracy? All I said was that they don’t always fly without it and that military aircraft can disable their ADS-B, preventing their position from being broadcast. This helps them stay off flight tracking systems when necessary, especially during sensitive operations. In this case, we don’t know what happened with ADS-B, so we should wait for the official report.

I see Blackhawks fly over most days. I’ve only seen one show up on a flight app, and that was probably because they forgot to turn it off. The others in the group did not appear.

I click around on FlightRadar24 all the time to see what’s flying, both here and all over the country, and rarely saw military aircraft show up anywhere until a few days ago.

guess you don’t know anyone who lives or works in Old Town. See military helos weekly and more if you just sat there looking west.

The PP is talking about seeing them in the app, not the sky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now a plane just crashed in Alaska, with all on board dead.

Neither this flight (terrible weather) nor the medical flight (private aviation, foreign trained pilots) concern me nearly as much as the DCA crash. People trying to equate them are silly.

Same. The DCA crash has brought to light that our military pilots are not as well trained as people perceive. If you aren’t trained to fly through DC safely, that doesn’t bode well for being battle ready

No. You’re making giant leaps in logic.

Nope. There is no clear reason for that crash other than pilot incompetence

Not exactly, and thank god people like you aren’t responsible for evaluating safety standards. You clearly aren’t a pilot nor have any sort of knowledge in this area.

A number of things lined up wrong on these two flights, leading to a perfect storm and tragedy. Rules will change after this.

I’d rather be on a commercial plane with US military trained pilots than any other pilots in the world.