DA vs ECNL vs everything else

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Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

My daughter's goal is to someday play for Loudoun ECNL - from what I read here it is the ticket to great things in life. She is 9 months old.

Somebody has already played this tire trope of a joke but you can review this thread to see how it went:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/729803.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

My daughter's goal is to someday play for Loudoun ECNL - from what I read here it is the ticket to great things in life. She is 9 months old.

Steer her into another sport. With your genes she won't go very far in soccer - not smart enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

My daughter's goal is to someday play for Loudoun ECNL - from what I read here it is the ticket to great things in life. She is 9 months old.

Steer her into another sport. With your genes she won't go very far in soccer - not smart enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

I think she will find a lot of kids with the same wish. Harder to find the opposite in ECNL or GDA environment. Personally, not a fan of the college sport commitment even though child is capable. I find there is a lot of talk about playing in college and little talk about the drawbacks. You can pushback on it privately so as not be a wet blanket on anyone's dreams but not sure it makes any sense at all for players interested in certain majors.

May work out great for some and if player is good enough to get money and needs that then they may have to play.

It is a significant investment of time and energy which is not bring spent on academics, internships, lab work for science majors, foreign study, preperation for graduate study, etc it really depends on the situation. Personally, would probably not repeat being a college player. (Different sport but similar commitment)

Just consider the pros and cons. You will not find any cons discussed in the gda or ecnl type environment but consider them privately.

Daughter is in DA and is not positive about college soccer for the very reasons mentioned above. When she hears about the time commitment, it boggles her mind why people do this. Shebsays, won't I have to go to class and study too? Yet including commute, we are spending on 20 hours a week on soccer in DA. Part of the way there already. Who knows what sh'll when it's time to decide.

What is the downside of having a try at it? If she is a good enough player, her soccer skills might help her getting in the university of her choice, and if she ends up considering it is too heavy a burden, could not she just walk (assuming that she does not have a soccer scholarship, which is almost impossible to get)?
This is a question not a statement, I have no idea what is the answer.

Yes, that is exactly where we are. She is leaning towards giving it a try and when she heard D3 is less of a time commitment, she thought that sounded better. I sometimes wonder if DA is the right place given her limitted ambition, but I also see that her work rate is good and coach feedback is positive so am taking a let's see where this goes approach. The no HS limitation is a drag but I think she is coming around to the conclusion that may not be as much fun as she thinks. She knows DA is the right place for her skill level and for development.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

I think she will find a lot of kids with the same wish. Harder to find the opposite in ECNL or GDA environment. Personally, not a fan of the college sport commitment even though child is capable. I find there is a lot of talk about playing in college and little talk about the drawbacks. You can pushback on it privately so as not be a wet blanket on anyone's dreams but not sure it makes any sense at all for players interested in certain majors.

May work out great for some and if player is good enough to get money and needs that then they may have to play.

It is a significant investment of time and energy which is not bring spent on academics, internships, lab work for science majors, foreign study, preperation for graduate study, etc it really depends on the situation. Personally, would probably not repeat being a college player. (Different sport but similar commitment)

Just consider the pros and cons. You will not find any cons discussed in the gda or ecnl type environment but consider them privately.

Daughter is in DA and is not positive about college soccer for the very reasons mentioned above. When she hears about the time commitment, it boggles her mind why people do this. Shebsays, won't I have to go to class and study too? Yet including commute, we are spending on 20 hours a week on soccer in DA. Part of the way there already. Who knows what sh'll when it's time to decide.

What is the downside of having a try at it? If she is a good enough player, her soccer skills might help her getting in the university of her choice, and if she ends up considering it is too heavy a burden, could not she just walk (assuming that she does not have a soccer scholarship, which is almost impossible to get)?
This is a question not a statement, I have no idea what is the answer.

Yes, that is exactly where we are. She is leaning towards giving it a try and when she heard D3 is less of a time commitment, she thought that sounded better. I sometimes wonder if DA is the right place given her limitted ambition, but I also see that her work rate is good and coach feedback is positive so am taking a let's see where this goes approach. The no HS limitation is a drag but I think she is coming around to the conclusion that may not be as much fun as she thinks. She knows DA is the right place for her skill level and for development.

What age is she? 8th grade?

A lot can change in the next few years- the 9th/10th grade year is vital. Skill levels really fluctuate during this time period, and priorities change for many. Hopefully her goals are attained in the long run but dont be surprised if aspirations change. (or she realizes her skills may not be as high as previously thought).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

My daughter's goal is to someday play for Loudoun ECNL - from what I read here it is the ticket to great things in life. She is 9 months old.

Steer her into another sport. With your genes she won't go very far in soccer - not smart enough.

I thought that in soccer all you need is speed and the ability to kick the ball really hard and really far. GotSoccer points galore!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

I think she will find a lot of kids with the same wish. Harder to find the opposite in ECNL or GDA environment. Personally, not a fan of the college sport commitment even though child is capable. I find there is a lot of talk about playing in college and little talk about the drawbacks. You can pushback on it privately so as not be a wet blanket on anyone's dreams but not sure it makes any sense at all for players interested in certain majors.

May work out great for some and if player is good enough to get money and needs that then they may have to play.

It is a significant investment of time and energy which is not bring spent on academics, internships, lab work for science majors, foreign study, preperation for graduate study, etc it really depends on the situation. Personally, would probably not repeat being a college player. (Different sport but similar commitment)

Just consider the pros and cons. You will not find any cons discussed in the gda or ecnl type environment but consider them privately.

Daughter is in DA and is not positive about college soccer for the very reasons mentioned above. When she hears about the time commitment, it boggles her mind why people do this. Shebsays, won't I have to go to class and study too? Yet including commute, we are spending on 20 hours a week on soccer in DA. Part of the way there already. Who knows what sh'll when it's time to decide.

What is the downside of having a try at it? If she is a good enough player, her soccer skills might help her getting in the university of her choice, and if she ends up considering it is too heavy a burden, could not she just walk (assuming that she does not have a soccer scholarship, which is almost impossible to get)?
This is a question not a statement, I have no idea what is the answer.

Yes, that is exactly where we are. She is leaning towards giving it a try and when she heard D3 is less of a time commitment, she thought that sounded better. I sometimes wonder if DA is the right place given her limitted ambition, but I also see that her work rate is good and coach feedback is positive so am taking a let's see where this goes approach. The no HS limitation is a drag but I think she is coming around to the conclusion that may not be as much fun as she thinks. She knows DA is the right place for her skill level and for development.

What age is she? 8th grade?

A lot can change in the next few years- the 9th/10th grade year is vital. Skill levels really fluctuate during this time period, and priorities change for many. Hopefully her goals are attained in the long run but dont be surprised if aspirations change. (or she realizes her skills may not be as high as previously thought).

Currently 8th grade. Nothing will surprise as to what she says she wants. I understand this is a critical year coming up. We shall see. This was never an aspiration I held for any of my kids. This is all her. Up to her.

[Anonymous]

Hope and change... It's what got the former president elected...but in reality..nothing changed at all. However, it is the emotion that allows the gravy train to continue.

Individual skill development drops off the older you get and is replaced by team development. So, no....dont buy into that fact that her skill will jump tremendously.

She will become a smarter soccer player as her cognitive levels increase with age... which will help her be a better soccer player.

If your child is already complaining about comittment...it will only get worse the older she gets

If she don't want it. You don't need it. At the end of the day, anything they're forced to do will backfire in a big way. Typically after you paid 100,000 in soccer and they quit their freshman year in college because they ride the bench.

As the kids say...you got to be about that life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

My daughter's goal is to someday play for Loudoun ECNL - from what I read here it is the ticket to great things in life. She is 9 months old.

Steer her into another sport. With your genes she won't go very far in soccer - not smart enough.

I thought that in soccer all you need is speed and the ability to kick the ball really hard and really far. GotSoccer points galore!

sign her up for kickball league.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

My daughter's goal is to someday play for Loudoun ECNL - from what I read here it is the ticket to great things in life. She is 9 months old.

Steer her into another sport. With your genes she won't go very far in soccer - not smart enough.

I thought that in soccer all you need is speed and the ability to kick the ball really hard and really far. GotSoccer points galore!

sign her up for kickball league.

AKA elite travel soccer at 95% of the clubs around here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any of your daughter's mention wanting to play in college? That is a goal my daughter has set for herself. Told her we support her 100%.

My daughter's goal is to someday play for Loudoun ECNL - from what I read here it is the ticket to great things in life. She is 9 months old.

Steer her into another sport. With your genes she won't go very far in soccer - not smart enough.

I thought that in soccer all you need is speed and the ability to kick the ball really hard and really far. GotSoccer points galore!

sign her up for kickball league.

AKA elite travel soccer at 95% of the clubs around here.

except whatever elite club youre involved with right

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hope and change... It's what got the former president elected...but in reality..nothing changed at all. However, it is the emotion that allows the gravy train to continue.

Individual skill development drops off the older you get and is replaced by team development. So, no....dont buy into that fact that her skill will jump tremendously.

She will become a smarter soccer player as her cognitive levels increase with age... which will help her be a better soccer player.

If your child is already complaining about comittment...it will only get worse the older she gets

If she don't want it. You don't need it. At the end of the day, anything they're forced to do will backfire in a big way. Typically after you paid 100,000 in soccer and they quit their freshman year in college because they ride the bench.

As the kids say...you got to be about that life.

Are all college players really only about soccer ...living a soccer only life? Sounds rather one dimensional and boring to me. I'd rather my kid be well-rounded with multiple.interests (sports, academics, music, arts, etc). What happens to your all about soccer kid when her knee gives out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hope and change... It's what got the former president elected...but in reality..nothing changed at all. However, it is the emotion that allows the gravy train to continue.

Individual skill development drops off the older you get and is replaced by team development. So, no....dont buy into that fact that her skill will jump tremendously.

She will become a smarter soccer player as her cognitive levels increase with age... which will help her be a better soccer player.

If your child is already complaining about comittment...it will only get worse the older she gets

If she don't want it. You don't need it. At the end of the day, anything they're forced to do will backfire in a big way. Typically after you paid 100,000 in soccer and they quit their freshman year in college because they ride the bench.

As the kids say...you got to be about that life.

Are all college players really only about soccer ...living a soccer only life? Sounds rather one dimensional and boring to me. I'd rather my kid be well-rounded with multiple.interests (sports, academics, music, arts, etc). What happens to your all about soccer kid when her knee gives out?

Then 4 days a week training. Plus one game a week...for 10 months a year is not for you.

Truth is...its not boring for some kids. Some kids are all about soccer....and yes..those girls recruited have other intrest...plus 4.2 GPAs....plus firends..plus less likely to get pregnant or in trouble...participate in charities....get good jobs...these girls are not dumb jocks....so again.....do what you can stand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hope and change... It's what got the former president elected...but in reality..nothing changed at all. However, it is the emotion that allows the gravy train to continue.

Individual skill development drops off the older you get and is replaced by team development. So, no....dont buy into that fact that her skill will jump tremendously.

She will become a smarter soccer player as her cognitive levels increase with age... which will help her be a better soccer player.

If your child is already complaining about comittment...it will only get worse the older she gets

If she don't want it. You don't need it. At the end of the day, anything they're forced to do will backfire in a big way. Typically after you paid 100,000 in soccer and they quit their freshman year in college because they ride the bench.

As the kids say...you got to be about that life.

Are all college players really only about soccer ...living a soccer only life? Sounds rather one dimensional and boring to me. I'd rather my kid be well-rounded with multiple.interests (sports, academics, music, arts, etc). What happens to your all about soccer kid when her knee gives out?

Then 4 days a week training. Plus one game a week...for 10 months a year is not for you.

Truth is...its not boring for some kids. Some kids are all about soccer....and yes..those girls recruited have other intrest...plus 4.2 GPAs....plus firends..plus less likely to get pregnant or in trouble...participate in charities....get good jobs...these girls are not dumb jocks....so again.....do what you can stand.

Aha! They have other interests...so they are not all about soccer. Your response is really confusing honestly. First, they are all about soccer...then they are not and have other interests. To fully disclose..we do 4× a week plus game on a DA team....but my daughter does have many other interests. She does not complain. She starts on her team. I was questioning g the validity of your all about soccer claim. You refuted it yourself. It really is not healthy to be all about just one thing be it academics, sports or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hope and change... It's what got the former president elected...but in reality..nothing changed at all. However, it is the emotion that allows the gravy train to continue.

Individual skill development drops off the older you get and is replaced by team development. So, no....dont buy into that fact that her skill will jump tremendously.

She will become a smarter soccer player as her cognitive levels increase with age... which will help her be a better soccer player.

If your child is already complaining about comittment...it will only get worse the older she gets

If she don't want it. You don't need it. At the end of the day, anything they're forced to do will backfire in a big way. Typically after you paid 100,000 in soccer and they quit their freshman year in college because they ride the bench.

As the kids say...you got to be about that life.

Are all college players really only about soccer ...living a soccer only life? Sounds rather one dimensional and boring to me. I'd rather my kid be well-rounded with multiple.interests (sports, academics, music, arts, etc). What happens to your all about soccer kid when her knee gives out?

Then 4 days a week training. Plus one game a week...for 10 months a year is not for you.

Truth is...its not boring for some kids. Some kids are all about soccer....and yes..those girls recruited have other intrest...plus 4.2 GPAs....plus firends..plus less likely to get pregnant or in trouble...participate in charities....get good jobs...these girls are not dumb jocks....so again.....do what you can stand.

Aha! They have other interests...so they are not all about soccer. Your response is really confusing honestly. First, they are all about soccer...then they are not and have other interests. To fully disclose..we do 4× a week plus game on a DA team....but my daughter does have many other interests. She does not complain. She starts on her team. I was questioning g the validity of your all about soccer claim. You refuted it yourself. It really is not healthy to be all about just one thing be it academics, sports or whatever.

For crying out loud

Your DA players is not one dimensional because she plays one sport during spring and fall. I bet she does what my daughter does.. Get up...go to school...do homework in resource...go to practice...snapchat her friends...go to pool on day off..run around the neighborhood unsupervised...thats right....unsupervised....repeat.

I bet your daughters GPA is high. I bet she talks about college.. I bet she'll be fine.

They could be doing a lot worse. So no, I don't find it unhealthy. I find it refreshing to watch kids work hard and excel without having their face in a stupid phone all day.