Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In DC, it's quite the opposite. You get jurors who refuse to "judge" defendants for serious crimes and/or engage in jury nullification. No doubt this thug's lawyers will be noting the overwhelming police effort to get this poor black male.

I've sat on a DC jury, and can tell you that this is simply not true.

I've sat on four juries in DC (and one Federal). In all four cases we had at least one juror hold out who either 1) wouldn't convict a "brother", 2) felt like the cops were out to get this one person, or 3) so strung out on drugs that they couldn't really interact with the rest of us.

It was a disgrace.

the one jury i was on was all white women in their 30s (including me) and one man. i honestly think there were no POC on the jury. it was extraordinarily bizarre.

it wasn't a criminal case though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait - the brother was driving a box truck, which someone here posted was a Fed Ex truck. Could that be how they got entry to the house? Parked out front, walked up with a box and said there was a delivey to sign for?

Hey, sorry, that was me that posted that. Apparently it was a crazy coincidence that just a couple hours before Wint was caught under the Rhode Island Avenue metro underpass, there was a SEPARATE accident involving the Fedex truck. When I read the news this morning, I thought that what I had saw with the Fedex truck was Wint being caught, but it was something totally different, just in the same place.

Jeff, if you could remove that post, I'd be grateful. Sorry for the confusion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I read they took Wint and his brother into custody---why not the woman driving the getaway car also?

anyone?

All of the people in the car and truck were taken into custody. WTOP has reported that there were 2 women with Wint in the car, and 2 men in the truck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In DC, it's quite the opposite. You get jurors who refuse to "judge" defendants for serious crimes and/or engage in jury nullification. No doubt this thug's lawyers will be noting the overwhelming police effort to get this poor black male.

I've sat on a DC jury, and can tell you that this is simply not true.

I've sat on four juries in DC (and one Federal). In all four cases we had at least one juror hold out who either 1) wouldn't convict a "brother", 2) felt like the cops were out to get this one person, or 3) so strung out on drugs that they couldn't really interact with the rest of us.

It was a disgrace.

That can happen anywhere and in any case for any particular prejudice that a juror holds. More than often, I can assure you, it works against the defendant. The US jails have their share of unjustly convicted. But such is our justice system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I read they took Wint and his brother into custody---why not the woman driving the getaway car also?

anyone?

All of the people in the car and truck were taken into custody. WTOP has reported that there were 2 women with Wint in the car, and 2 men in the truck.

I'm going with his brother was his accomplice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In DC, it's quite the opposite. You get jurors who refuse to "judge" defendants for serious crimes and/or engage in jury nullification. No doubt this thug's lawyers will be noting the overwhelming police effort to get this poor black male.

I've sat on a DC jury, and can tell you that this is simply not true.

I've sat on four juries in DC (and one Federal). In all four cases we had at least one juror hold out who either 1) wouldn't convict a "brother", 2) felt like the cops were out to get this one person, or 3) so strung out on drugs that they couldn't really interact with the rest of us.

It was a disgrace.

the one jury i was on was all white women in their 30s (including me) and one man. i honestly think there were no POC on the jury. it was extraordinarily bizarre.

it wasn't a criminal case though.

the one jury I was on in DC was a fairly mixed crowd. The defendant was an AA man accused of drug posession. Interestingly, the 2 most vocal jurors claiming he was being set up were two elderly white men.

[Anonymous]

Also, if wint was charged with having a machete outside of AIW in /010. What were his intentions then? Likely not good. This guy was/is a psycho.

[Anonymous]

Wow - Just amazing police work, as detailed in WaPo:

Fernandez he requested help from Prince George’s County police and within five minutes a helicopter was in the air, flying over the target vehicles and 25 unmarked police cars below. Along Rhode Island Avenue Northeast, Fernandez said agents managed to maneuver an unmarked car between the sedan and the truck. Police in cars then blocked the road and pinned the sedan between vehicles. Agents, some toting semiautomatic rifles, ordered the occupants of both vehicles out.

He said Wint was in the back seat of the sedan with a woman driver and passenger. He said two men were in the truck. They were sat on a curb and handcuffed. “They had no idea they were being followed,” Fernandez said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't say I've read all 232 pages of this thread, so please forgive if the following few points are repetitive:

1. Thank God for Law Enforcement! In an age where police work is sadly becoming highly politicized, I'm glad these individuals were apprehended safely, although I doubt there would've been rioting if any of them had been hurt.
2. Be careful whom you associate with and whom you hire. People with a criminal record and multiple arrests and convictions for violent behavior are not choir boys. Be careful. Although nobody ever saw this coming, there are people out there who are criminally insane and integrated into our free society, who should be institutionalized or locked up for prior offenses.
3. The Daily Mail tabloid in London had more scoops and better coverage than any U.S. news outlets. Check out their website. We should be ashamed.
4. Robin Ficker is a disgrace and a publicity hog.
5. For torturing a child to death, this animal will receive the same fate in prison.

On your Number 3, I read all of the Daily Mail articles throughout. They had NO scoops whatsoever. Every single thing they printed had been lifted from previously published U.S. news sources including the Washington Post, Fox5, and WUSA9. They also mined Facebook (but even that they were not first on). I thought the U.S. reporting was actually quite good. The Daily Mail was piggy-backing off the work of local crime reporters relying on sources they knew from before or were developing.

[Anonymous]

There is no way jury nullification happens here. No way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't say I've read all 232 pages of this thread, so please forgive if the following few points are repetitive:

1. Thank God for Law Enforcement! In an age where police work is sadly becoming highly politicized, I'm glad these individuals were apprehended safely, although I doubt there would've been rioting if any of them had been hurt.
2. Be careful whom you associate with and whom you hire. People with a criminal record and multiple arrests and convictions for violent behavior are not choir boys. Be careful. Although nobody ever saw this coming, there are people out there who are criminally insane and integrated into our free society, who should be institutionalized or locked up for prior offenses.
3. The Daily Mail tabloid in London had more scoops and better coverage than any U.S. news outlets. Check out their website. We should be ashamed.
4. Robin Ficker is a disgrace and a publicity hog.
5. For torturing a child to death, this animal will receive the same fate in prison.

On your Number 3, I read all of the Daily Mail articles throughout. They had NO scoops whatsoever. Every single thing they printed had been lifted from previously published U.S. news sources including the Washington Post, Fox5, and WUSA9. They also mined Facebook (but even that they were not first on). I thought the U.S. reporting was actually quite good. The Daily Mail was piggy-backing off the work of local crime reporters relying on sources they knew from before or were developing.

+1. That's literally the business model.

[Anonymous]

I'm no legal historian, but can anyone think of a case in the last 50 years with a fact pattern as horrific as this? It feels like this may be the worst sort of murder (torture of a child coupled with the fire), in DC history.

[Anonymous]

They only recovered $10,000 that was with Wint...I wonder where the other $30,000 is. Split among other accomplices maybe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow - Just amazing police work, as detailed in WaPo:

Fernandez he requested help from Prince George’s County police and within five minutes a helicopter was in the air, flying over the target vehicles and 25 unmarked police cars below. Along Rhode Island Avenue Northeast, Fernandez said agents managed to maneuver an unmarked car between the sedan and the truck. Police in cars then blocked the road and pinned the sedan between vehicles. Agents, some toting semiautomatic rifles, ordered the occupants of both vehicles out.

He said Wint was in the back seat of the sedan with a woman driver and passenger. He said two men were in the truck. They were sat on a curb and handcuffed. “They had no idea they were being followed,” Fernandez said.

How did they know it was him? Did they have a description of the car linked to him from NY?

[Anonymous]

CORRECTION

WTOP reports that 2 women in the car with Wint; and 3 men in the box truck were arrested.

6 total arrests, including Wint.