Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Right wing X has cooled off a lot this morning. I generally have a pretty blase attitude to threats of violence, but even I was alarmed by the tone of what was being posted yesterday.

The right is 100% hot air. Get them mad and they buy a new gun, and lift their truck, and by the weekend it’s back to football.

That’s a good thing. The left actually follows through with their rage and shoots people.

Hey Bot! Are you from China or Russia?

That Russian-Chinese bot is right though. The left is simply more action oriented which is why they tend to win.

Really.
White House, House of Representatives, Senate, Supreme Court, majority of state legislatiures, majority of media, Fox, Paramount, OAN, popular podcasters are all conservatives. Public Broadcasters defunded, colleges under attack, traditional allies in Europe alienated, billionaires running the U.S. etc etc.

Left is not winning at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a chronically online freak.

It used to be much harder to come across extremism like this pre social media. It need s regulation but I don’t know how you can do so constitutionally.

Section 230 needs to be rescinded. Online platforms are not just presenting data, they’re using algorithms to present data; therefore they are responsible for what is “amplified” by their algorithms. SV tech companies can no longer claim to be not responsible for what is said when they are involved with the presentation of what is said with their algorithms.

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Anonymous wrote:This is from last night, Fuentes recognized one of his own.

thank you for posting this.

I wonder how Fuentes knew last night.

Probably hangs out in the same Discord cesspools.

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Anonymous wrote:This is from last night, Fuentes recognized one of his own.

So he already suspected it was one of his people or whatever?

Even more disturbing are the comments and replies to this video. If these are not bots or trolls then there are a number of people out there ready to take up arms for (their version of) Christianity.

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Anonymous wrote:This is from last night, Fuentes recognized one of his own.

thank you for posting this.

I wonder how Fuentes knew last night.

Probably hangs out in the same Discord cesspools.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:This is from last night, Fuentes recognized one of his own.

thank you for posting this.

I'm glad that very infrequently this person does the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:This is from last night, Fuentes recognized one of his own.

So he already suspected it was one of his people or whatever?

Even more disturbing are the comments and replies to this video. If these are not bots or trolls then there are a number of people out there ready to take up arms for (their version of) Christianity.

I mean, I never heard of that game, don't understand those references, am not on discord and my money was on right wing edgelord or at least mentally ill nihilist before it was liberal gun control advocate. Other than to crassly gain a political advantage, I'm not sure why anyone thought a liberal had done this.

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Anonymous wrote:Could young people be resorting to violence, because they feel like more legitimate checks and balances in society have fallen away? So they take on some mantle of rescuer, because the institutions that used to enforce our laws/values are so broken?

(Not justifying violence in any way, just wondering if some of these wayward youths tell themselves this??)

Yes, absolutely. Research shows that there's very little correlation between what is popular and what becomes law. We see big corporations and interest groups own our elected officials. And we see a dual legal system where laws only apply to those who can't afford to circumvent the system.

As the failings of our system become more and more stark, more and more people will abandon it in favor of natural law. The strong survive, take what you can, empathy is weakness, etc. But that's basically how modern conservatives operate anyway. Dark times.

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Anonymous wrote:This is from last night, Fuentes recognized one of his own.

So he already suspected it was one of his people or whatever?

Even more disturbing are the comments and replies to this video. If these are not bots or trolls then there are a number of people out there ready to take up arms for (their version of) Christianity.

I mean, I never heard of that game, don't understand those references, am not on discord and my money was on right wing edgelord or at least mentally ill nihilist before it was liberal gun control advocate. Other than to crassly gain a political advantage, I'm not sure why anyone thought a liberal had done this.

Discord isn’t a game, it’s an anonymous group chat app often used my gamers.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a sad turning point in America.

We are all doomed.

We’re only doomed if we don’t get maga violence in check and stopped. These people are willing to kill and are armed to the teeth. We MUST get them under control. If we don’t not, then yes, we are doomed.

You have no idea if this was a crazy democrat but you're very quick to blame trump supporters. I don't think your comments going to age well.

Anti-Fa is violent. Why don't you get that in check?

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Just reading the news after a busy morning.

I'm glad they caught the killer.

I see that he's not a trans activist. He apparently is against fascists. And he's apparently a gamer. OK.

Not a very ultra-left sort of person, in my opinion. Just another mentally ill weirdo obsessed with guns.

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The slogans were accompanied by left-wing symbols, like an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows.

Please explain to the class how these symbols are “left-wing.” TIA!

It’s a Headstamps. Everyone knows it. Even maga.

I think you need to read updated news articles. That was yesterday’s news. Maybe read the transcript or watch the press conference from earlier.

lol what you going to shoot me? It’s a Headstamps. Provide some evidence that is not maybe up internet stuff. Like you heard it from a bot on twitter with 5 followers.

I linked the press conference.


Stop gaslighting and actually get your facts straight before you post.

Also, why would you say that? I never said anything to indicate I was violent.

So you can not provide links proving your craziness? Got it.

NP. Good lord. Do you fart in our general direction? The scribblings were described at the press conference, which the PP linked. A bit of googling will quickly reveal credible pre-assassination sources on the meaning of the scribblings: One is a reference to an Italian anti-fascist protest song from WW II; one is an anti-Nazi political symbol also from WW II; one said "hey fascist, catch!"; and one said if this hits you, you're gay (for the sarcasm-challenged: I'm hitting you with what you think is cooties). Notice a theme? It sucks that we on the left have to contend with our own mentally ill radical. Sadly, they come in all stripes and we all bear responsibility for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Arrows

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

No. It said "if you read this you are gay, LMAO."

Thanks for the correction. Same sentiment.

Not at all. "If you read this you are gay" is a dumb internet meme. It is apolitical. It's a thing people used to say on Tumblr and still say on reddit.

I'm not saying this shooter was not a left-oriented radical, but the engraving on the casings is pretty weak evidence.

I think he is just an attention seeking edge lord. He has no ideology.

We are learning much about his upbringing, though. White, Mormon, Utah, guns, law enforcement family. Very white and very right.

Maybe. But that just makes it all the more terrifying about how quickly a university can radicalize kids.

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Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone summarize the political leanings of the shooter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the prez had moved on already, lol.

LOL! That's a case study in how fast media cycles move. From one sentence to the next.

It's like Charlie has been tossed aside like a piece of garbage now that his death is no longer useful to serve an agenda.

You are talking as if Charlie just turned into a piece of garbage. He has been a piece of garbage his all useless life.

Yeah. Any violent death like that is tragic. Those types of deaths happen every day. Charlie Kirk was a bad person and while the manner and circumstances of his death are tragic, the world is a better place without him.

Kirk was not a nice person given his public statements. However, he did not deserve to be shot like he was. He deserved to become painfully unpopular and a social pariah but not assassinated in front of his wife and kids.

+1. I feel as horrified in this situation as I do in all the other MANY cases of mental illness + guns resulting in a traumatic incident. Not only to Kirk and his family but everyone there was traumatized. Gun control. Now.