Kids becoming Firefighters and Cops

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I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

Definitely seen revenge of the nerds type dress… career advice from 10 years?

[Anonymous]

The cop or firefighter with the SAHW and 3-4 kids only works if you're willing to live in WV or SoPA or MD Panhandle and deal with the long commute. Which a lot of them do. They want the land, the ATVs, the boat, the SAHW, etc.

I grew up in California and cops there can’t afford that lifestyle anymore. Lots of the LAFD live in ID, MT, or NV and fly in for shifts so they can replicate the lifestyle of their fathers and grandfathers.

But most cops’ wives are nurses who can take flexible shift work or stop/start work as the kids get older. SAHW is only for poor people or the wives of surgeons/PE/HF types.

Also - I never met a black cop whose wife doesn’t work and is SAHW. Very rare. The idea of a SAHW on a cop’s salary is a white cultural entitlement. And it’s disappearing fast.

[Anonymous]

You want to see someone get evasive?

Ask them this: “a firefighter or a cop is a government job - right?”

You’ll be hard pressed to get a straight answer.

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Anonymous wrote:You want to see someone get evasive?

Ask them this: “a firefighter or a cop is a government job - right?”

You’ll be hard pressed to get a straight answer.

What’s your point? If they work for the state, county, or town it’s fairly obvious.

Ask a sheriff’s deputy. Their boss is elected. They know it’s political.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

You’re assuming the pensions and early retirement will still be offered to new hires in 15 years or so. That’s a big assumption.

Many of the best paying and prosperous jobs for those kids are likely not even understood yet.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

You’re assuming the pensions and early retirement will still be offered to new hires in 15 years or so. That’s a big assumption.

Many of the best paying and prosperous jobs for those kids are likely not even understood yet.

Like plumbing?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

You’re assuming the pensions and early retirement will still be offered to new hires in 15 years or so. That’s a big assumption.

Many of the best paying and prosperous jobs for those kids are likely not even understood yet.

Like plumbing?

Plumbing being gobbled up by PE, low paid for the PE-owned firms, and you're physically broken by age 50.

The only plumber I know with a pension works for the state of California. Very good union wage and benefits. But again.....government job seems to be the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

You’re assuming the pensions and early retirement will still be offered to new hires in 15 years or so. That’s a big assumption.

Many of the best paying and prosperous jobs for those kids are likely not even understood yet.

Like plumbing?

Plumbing being gobbled up by PE, low paid for the PE-owned firms, and you're physically broken by age 50.

The only plumber I know with a pension works for the state of California. Very good union wage and benefits. But again.....government job seems to be the answer.

Are you unfamiliar with unions?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

You’re assuming the pensions and early retirement will still be offered to new hires in 15 years or so. That’s a big assumption.

Many of the best paying and prosperous jobs for those kids are likely not even understood yet.

Like plumbing?

No, I’m talking about jobs that don’t exist yet or are in their infancy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

You’re assuming the pensions and early retirement will still be offered to new hires in 15 years or so. That’s a big assumption.

Many of the best paying and prosperous jobs for those kids are likely not even understood yet.

Like plumbing?

Plumbing being gobbled up by PE, low paid for the PE-owned firms, and you're physically broken by age 50.

The only plumber I know with a pension works for the state of California. Very good union wage and benefits. But again.....government job seems to be the answer.

Are you unfamiliar with unions?

“Using the closest official occupation category, “plumbers, pipefitters, and steamfitters,” about 115,000 workers were union members in 2025, out of about 518,000 employed, for a union membership rate of 22.2%. If you include workers covered by a union contract whether or not they were members, the figure was about 119,000, or 23.0%”

So yeah, close to 80% are non-union.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

If the only jobs are government jobs like police or firefighters, who is paying taxes to pay for those government jobs? Likewise, most trades people don’t hire out for repairs, they do their own, so demand will collapse.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to remember if a child dressed up as an accountant or computer scientist ever showed up at our door on Halloween.

No, but that’s why they don’t choose careers until they are adults.

Make sure you teach them about the value of a pension, being paid for every minute you work, and early retirement. Luckily the youngest among us will see the deleterious effect of AI on careers in time to make more stable career decisions.

If the only jobs are government jobs like police or firefighters, who is paying taxes to pay for those government jobs? Likewise, most trades people don’t hire out for repairs, they do their own, so demand will collapse.

I never said there would only be government jobs left, but there will always be government jobs.

I do believe there will always be first responder jobs. That’s my point. EMS doesn’t pay as well as it should, but police and fire are jobs you can make decent money doing.