ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing, just received offered for dual roster for 2010B. It was proposed that RL team would be strong with former Arlington Academy players from the 2010B group.

Received the same offer, there were several kids from other clubs at the ID sessions.

Why would players leave the top Arlington team to play for B team at Brave/Union, when Arlington had better record than the top teams from those clubs? It does not make sense.

They are not/would not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing, just received offered for dual roster for 2010B. It was proposed that RL team would be strong with former Arlington Academy players from the 2010B group.

Received the same offer, there were several kids from other clubs at the ID sessions.

Why would players leave the top Arlington team to play for B team at Brave/Union, when Arlington had better record than the top teams from those clubs? It does not make sense.

They are not/would not.

Unless they were not leaving on their own accord. Perhaps some were cut?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This parent-coach thing is beyond stupid. For the poster complaining about it, did you ever play a sport at even the most basic level?

Jim Boeheim
Jim Larranaga
Craig McDermott
Fran McCaffery
Steve Alford
Johnny Dawkins
Avery Johnson
Tubby Smith

The above is only picking D1 coaches in a single sport where their son was a starter.

Explain how a coach whose experience consists primarily of coaching SYA White and has a D license is on par with his peers, much less Jim Boeheim, and you might have a reasonable argument.

OP was also talking about roster selection more than coaching. This is an issue with lots of BRAVE teams but could especially be an issue with a parent coach.

+1. Especially when there are “trapped” 06s from both BRAVE and Union who spent the past year playing u19, a team full of Union 07s and outside players to consider. Given the state and circumstances of Fairfax Union, they really owe it to the rest of the club and the 3 member clubs to put the highest caliber roster possible in place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

Not many, not at the level being compared, and not at the ages being compared. Those very few who are coaching their kids are also full time coaches with prior track records, other teams they coach, and track records of placing kids in college programs and youth national teams. Their teams are also highly ranked and consistently winning. None of those things are true at the program/team being discussed.

Right. It doesn’t happen at MLS Next/ECNL/GA levels, except BRAVE/BRYC. Most clubs have a policy against it. Loudoun’s TD has won National COY and other awards - his kids have been in Loudoun’s program and he’s never stepped in and taken over coaching his kid’s team. If he doesn’t do it, no one else should…especially at key recruiting years.

Loudoun not the best example. NVA 2010G have Father/daughter coach/player. Get your facts straight before sounding off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

Not many, not at the level being compared, and not at the ages being compared. Those very few who are coaching their kids are also full time coaches with prior track records, other teams they coach, and track records of placing kids in college programs and youth national teams. Their teams are also highly ranked and consistently winning. None of those things are true at the program/team being discussed.

Right. It doesn’t happen at MLS Next/ECNL/GA levels, except BRAVE/BRYC. Most clubs have a policy against it. Loudoun’s TD has won National COY and other awards - his kids have been in Loudoun’s program and he’s never stepped in and taken over coaching his kid’s team. If he doesn’t do it, no one else should…especially at key recruiting years.

Loudoun not the best example. NVA 2010G have Father/daughter coach/player. Get your facts straight before sounding off.

I'm pretty sure RP does not have a daughter on the team. WTF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

Not many, not at the level being compared, and not at the ages being compared. Those very few who are coaching their kids are also full time coaches with prior track records, other teams they coach, and track records of placing kids in college programs and youth national teams. Their teams are also highly ranked and consistently winning. None of those things are true at the program/team being discussed.

Right. It doesn’t happen at MLS Next/ECNL/GA levels, except BRAVE/BRYC. Most clubs have a policy against it. Loudoun’s TD has won National COY and other awards - his kids have been in Loudoun’s program and he’s never stepped in and taken over coaching his kid’s team. If he doesn’t do it, no one else should…especially at key recruiting years.

Loudoun not the best example. NVA 2010G have Father/daughter coach/player. Get your facts straight before sounding off.

I'm pretty sure RP does not have a daughter on the team. WTF.

You're "pretty sure"?? You're wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing, just received offered for dual roster for 2010B. It was proposed that RL team would be strong with former Arlington Academy players from the 2010B group.

Received the same offer, there were several kids from other clubs at the ID sessions.

Why would players leave the top Arlington team to play for B team at Brave/Union, when Arlington had better record than the top teams from those clubs? It does not make sense.

I would imagine with the addition of the “better” players from McLean to make FVU. Wouldn’t it make sense that FVU would a stronger team?
Able to compete with Arlington and others?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

Not many, not at the level being compared, and not at the ages being compared. Those very few who are coaching their kids are also full time coaches with prior track records, other teams they coach, and track records of placing kids in college programs and youth national teams. Their teams are also highly ranked and consistently winning. None of those things are true at the program/team being discussed.

Right. It doesn’t happen at MLS Next/ECNL/GA levels, except BRAVE/BRYC. Most clubs have a policy against it. Loudoun’s TD has won National COY and other awards - his kids have been in Loudoun’s program and he’s never stepped in and taken over coaching his kid’s team. If he doesn’t do it, no one else should…especially at key recruiting years.

Loudoun not the best example. NVA 2010G have Father/daughter coach/player. Get your facts straight before sounding off.

I'm pretty sure RP does not have a daughter on the team. WTF.

You're "pretty sure"?? You're wrong.

Looking at the roster you can clearly see that he doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

Not many, not at the level being compared, and not at the ages being compared. Those very few who are coaching their kids are also full time coaches with prior track records, other teams they coach, and track records of placing kids in college programs and youth national teams. Their teams are also highly ranked and consistently winning. None of those things are true at the program/team being discussed.

Right. It doesn’t happen at MLS Next/ECNL/GA levels, except BRAVE/BRYC. Most clubs have a policy against it. Loudoun’s TD has won National COY and other awards - his kids have been in Loudoun’s program and he’s never stepped in and taken over coaching his kid’s team. If he doesn’t do it, no one else should…especially at key recruiting years.

Loudoun not the best example. NVA 2010G have Father/daughter coach/player. Get your facts straight before sounding off.

I'm pretty sure RP does not have a daughter on the team. WTF.

You're "pretty sure"?? You're wrong.

Maybe look a little closer and check spelling. Would be a good start in admitting you're not the brightest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing, just received offered for dual roster for 2010B. It was proposed that RL team would be strong with former Arlington Academy players from the 2010B group.

Received the same offer, there were several kids from other clubs at the ID sessions.

Why would players leave the top Arlington team to play for B team at Brave/Union, when Arlington had better record than the top teams from those clubs? It does not make sense.

I would imagine with the addition of the “better” players from McLean to make FVU. Wouldn’t it make sense that FVU would a stronger team?
Able to compete with Arlington and others?

Hopefully…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

Not many, not at the level being compared, and not at the ages being compared. Those very few who are coaching their kids are also full time coaches with prior track records, other teams they coach, and track records of placing kids in college programs and youth national teams. Their teams are also highly ranked and consistently winning. None of those things are true at the program/team being discussed.

Right. It doesn’t happen at MLS Next/ECNL/GA levels, except BRAVE/BRYC. Most clubs have a policy against it. Loudoun’s TD has won National COY and other awards - his kids have been in Loudoun’s program and he’s never stepped in and taken over coaching his kid’s team. If he doesn’t do it, no one else should…especially at key recruiting years.

Loudoun not the best example. NVA 2010G have Father/daughter coach/player. Get your facts straight before sounding off.

I'm pretty sure RP does not have a daughter on the team. WTF.

You're "pretty sure"?? You're wrong.

There is a girl with similar but different last name.

[Anonymous]

There are several Brave coaches with actual kids in their team. And they are just routinely selecting their kids friends for next year.

This isn’t right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are several Brave coaches with actual kids in their team. And they are just routinely selecting their kids friends for next year.

This isn’t right.

What group? Boys or girls?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several Brave coaches with actual kids in their team. And they are just routinely selecting their kids friends for next year.

This isn’t right.

What group? Boys or girls?

Now that I’m think about it, both.

You have Jaon on the girls side but this was more about 2 of the boys coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several Brave coaches with actual kids in their team. And they are just routinely selecting their kids friends for next year.

This isn’t right.

What group? Boys or girls?

Now that I’m think about it, both.

You have Jaon on the girls side but this was more about 2 of the boys coaches.

If you're paying $3k+ for BRAVE you should expect BRAVE selects players according to skill, understanding and physicality. NOT anything else.