ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing, just received offered for dual roster for 2010B. It was proposed that RL team would be strong with former Arlington Academy players from the 2010B group.

Received the same offer, there were several kids from other clubs at the ID sessions.

Why would players leave the top Arlington team to play for B team at Brave/Union, when Arlington had better record than the top teams from those clubs? It does not make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread will not die until the last of the Union offers is out.

The U18/19 boys seems to be a disaster zone especially since it’s 4 teams combining.

Brave coaches seem to be overlooking the top talent from the 2006/2007 teams which means it will disperse.

This is why you don’t have a parent coach running your u19 ECNL team. I don’t understand why somebody doesn’t step in and tell Coach Daddy to either get lost or let the TD and rest of the staff pick the talent…it’s bad enough that he’s coaching his kid. It’s just really disappointing that KJ lets himself get pushed around by the Daddy Coaches and BRYC TD.

The guy is a good coach and his players love him. The "dad thing" doesn't come into play. You really have not idea what you're talking about.

There is a reason every other club doesn’t have parents coaching their kid’s ECNL team. Only happens at BRAVE.

Yet it was Union's Boys that triggered the merger, not BRAVE's. Again, the guy is a good coach, players respect him. Get over it.

It just proves once again what a joke of a club BRAVE is. They’ll trip over themselves for a Dad Coach with a losing record in league play…same story for both their u17s and u19s this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread will not die until the last of the Union offers is out.

The U18/19 boys seems to be a disaster zone especially since it’s 4 teams combining.

Brave coaches seem to be overlooking the top talent from the 2006/2007 teams which means it will disperse.

This is why you don’t have a parent coach running your u19 ECNL team. I don’t understand why somebody doesn’t step in and tell Coach Daddy to either get lost or let the TD and rest of the staff pick the talent…it’s bad enough that he’s coaching his kid. It’s just really disappointing that KJ lets himself get pushed around by the Daddy Coaches and BRYC TD.

The guy is a good coach and his players love him. The "dad thing" doesn't come into play. You really have not idea what you're talking about.

There is a reason every other club doesn’t have parents coaching their kid’s ECNL team. Only happens at BRAVE.

Yet it was Union's Boys that triggered the merger, not BRAVE's. Again, the guy is a good coach, players respect him. Get over it.

It just proves once again what a joke of a club BRAVE is. They’ll trip over themselves for a Dad Coach with a losing record in league play…same story for both their u17s and u19s this year.

BRAVE u19 looks to only have 4 college commits, 2 D2 and 2 D3. Caveat emptor.

[Anonymous]

Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

Not many, not at the level being compared, and not at the ages being compared. Those very few who are coaching their kids are also full time coaches with prior track records, other teams they coach, and track records of placing kids in college programs and youth national teams. Their teams are also highly ranked and consistently winning. None of those things are true at the program/team being discussed.

[Anonymous]

Brave is/was less than two years old. Get a life.

[Anonymous]

BRYC has a tradition of parent coaches

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with someone coaching their son/daughter’s team . . . And if you knew what you were talking about then you would know that there are several other examples in the Metro DC area of parents coaching their kids at a competitive level and things are going just fine. So please STFU

Not many, not at the level being compared, and not at the ages being compared. Those very few who are coaching their kids are also full time coaches with prior track records, other teams they coach, and track records of placing kids in college programs and youth national teams. Their teams are also highly ranked and consistently winning. None of those things are true at the program/team being discussed.

Right. It doesn’t happen at MLS Next/ECNL/GA levels, except BRAVE/BRYC. Most clubs have a policy against it. Loudoun’s TD has won National COY and other awards - his kids have been in Loudoun’s program and he’s never stepped in and taken over coaching his kid’s team. If he doesn’t do it, no one else should…especially at key recruiting years.

[Anonymous]

He makes sure the coach is good and they play up! They wouldn't let other kids play up but for him there's an exception.

[Anonymous]

This parent-coach thing is beyond stupid. For the poster complaining about it, did you ever play a sport at even the most basic level?

Jim Boeheim
Jim Larranaga
Craig McDermott
Fran McCaffery
Steve Alford
Johnny Dawkins
Avery Johnson
Tubby Smith

The above is only picking D1 coaches in a single sport where their son was a starter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for sharing, just received offered for dual roster for 2010B. It was proposed that RL team would be strong with former Arlington Academy players from the 2010B group.

Received the same offer, there were several kids from other clubs at the ID sessions.

Why would players leave the top Arlington team to play for B team at Brave/Union, when Arlington had better record than the top teams from those clubs? It does not make sense.

Maybe they aren't voluntarily leaving? Perhaps the Arlington Academy kids who haven't gotten offers yet to stay on the team don't want to move to the lower Arlington teams and are therefore leaving.

[Anonymous]

For those who recieved offer letters, what is the deadline for accepting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This parent-coach thing is beyond stupid. For the poster complaining about it, did you ever play a sport at even the most basic level?

Jim Boeheim
Jim Larranaga
Craig McDermott
Fran McCaffery
Steve Alford
Johnny Dawkins
Avery Johnson
Tubby Smith

The above is only picking D1 coaches in a single sport where their son was a starter.

Explain how a coach whose experience consists primarily of coaching SYA White and has a D license is on par with his peers, much less Jim Boeheim, and you might have a reasonable argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This parent-coach thing is beyond stupid. For the poster complaining about it, did you ever play a sport at even the most basic level?

Jim Boeheim
Jim Larranaga
Craig McDermott
Fran McCaffery
Steve Alford
Johnny Dawkins
Avery Johnson
Tubby Smith

The above is only picking D1 coaches in a single sport where their son was a starter.

Explain how a coach whose experience consists primarily of coaching SYA White and has a D license is on par with his peers, much less Jim Boeheim, and you might have a reasonable argument.

OP was also talking about roster selection more than coaching. This is an issue with lots of BRAVE teams but could especially be an issue with a parent coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This parent-coach thing is beyond stupid. For the poster complaining about it, did you ever play a sport at even the most basic level?

Jim Boeheim
Jim Larranaga
Craig McDermott
Fran McCaffery
Steve Alford
Johnny Dawkins
Avery Johnson
Tubby Smith

The above is only picking D1 coaches in a single sport where their son was a starter.

You left off Bobby Knight and many others. But they were all bad decisions and obviously part of the implicit compensation package every D1 coach enjoys. (McDermott's kid was a great college player, but you cannot help wondering whether he might have developed better with another set of eyes on his college career.) Nobody can act objectively with respect to their child. Either the child or other team members will ultimately be treated unfairly. And even when that is not the case, the perception of potential favoritism can be problematic. Is this really even a close question? Outside of family-owned businesses, or show business, I don't think we'd normally view nepotism as an efficient or normal practice.