Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so happy for them. She won another Grammy this year and his team won another superbowl. I don’t understand all the hate. Have Russian bots invaded the thread?

As it was explained in the pregame show, Americans love to see people win, but once they start winning "too much", we turn on the person. That goes for athletes and celebrities as a whole, and friends/colleagues on a granular level.

+1, this is why most people correctly hate Tom Brady and the Brady-Belichick era Patriots. For instance, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Eli Manning for no other reason than that his Giants teams beat the Patriots twice at the Superbowl and kept Brady et al from two more rings. And the fact that Brady was married to Gisele, a certified super model, and they both seemed to know they were beautiful and perfect -- people haaaated them. Patriots fans liked Brady, and he had allure for a certain brand of alpha-bro who says things like "I just like winners" at dinner parties, but most people hated them.

Taylor/Travis are the new Tom/Gisele and this will automatically make people dislike them and pick apart everything they say and do. It's just the way of things, I don't even think it's personal. We build people up and then we tear them down. Natural cycle of celebrity.

Except Travis is no Tom Brady and TS is no Gisele (looks wise. Of course she’s wildly more successful professionally)

I actually think Taylor and Gisele have a ton of professional similarities in terms of their careers and the level of domination they are/were at when they met their NFL significant others. Taylor has more money, but she's at a similar level in the music industry to what Gisele was at in the modeling industry at the time. But Taylor should take a look at Gisele -- like Shakira, Gisele backburnered her career in order to be the supportive wife for Brady's career and raise their kids. She left a ton of money on the table to make herself secondary to him. And look how that turned out.

Sometimes successful women are drawn to men with huge egos, and these men often look at these beautiful, accomplished women as the ultimate trophy. But once they have that trophy... they just want more trophies. They are living out a childhood fantasy, it's not true love. Tom Brady's first and only love is himself, and this is likely true for Kelce too.

How did it turn out?? With a 10+ year marriage and some beautiful kids, and more money and fame then when she started.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so happy for them. She won another Grammy this year and his team won another superbowl. I don’t understand all the hate. Have Russian bots invaded the thread?

As it was explained in the pregame show, Americans love to see people win, but once they start winning "too much", we turn on the person. That goes for athletes and celebrities as a whole, and friends/colleagues on a granular level.

+1, this is why most people correctly hate Tom Brady and the Brady-Belichick era Patriots. For instance, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Eli Manning for no other reason than that his Giants teams beat the Patriots twice at the Superbowl and kept Brady et al from two more rings. And the fact that Brady was married to Gisele, a certified super model, and they both seemed to know they were beautiful and perfect -- people haaaated them. Patriots fans liked Brady, and he had allure for a certain brand of alpha-bro who says things like "I just like winners" at dinner parties, but most people hated them.

Taylor/Travis are the new Tom/Gisele and this will automatically make people dislike them and pick apart everything they say and do. It's just the way of things, I don't even think it's personal. We build people up and then we tear them down. Natural cycle of celebrity.

Except Travis is no Tom Brady and TS is no Gisele (looks wise. Of course she’s wildly more successful professionally)

I actually think Taylor and Gisele have a ton of professional similarities in terms of their careers and the level of domination they are/were at when they met their NFL significant others. Taylor has more money, but she's at a similar level in the music industry to what Gisele was at in the modeling industry at the time. But Taylor should take a look at Gisele -- like Shakira, Gisele backburnered her career in order to be the supportive wife for Brady's career and raise their kids. She left a ton of money on the table to make herself secondary to him. And look how that turned out.

Sometimes successful women are drawn to men with huge egos, and these men often look at these beautiful, accomplished women as the ultimate trophy. But once they have that trophy... they just want more trophies. They are living out a childhood fantasy, it's not true love. Tom Brady's first and only love is himself, and this is likely true for Kelce too.

True, however Travis is at the end of the career cycle for a tight end. So he's prime to retire, transition to entertainment news (sports and e-news) and follow Taylor around for another year.

Gisele has more money than she’ll ever spend in this lifetime and she is very devoted to her kids. I read an interview with her following their divorce and she seemed very happy and settled.

Of course she is happy. She initiated the divorce and had a boyfriend immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so happy for them. She won another Grammy this year and his team won another superbowl. I don’t understand all the hate. Have Russian bots invaded the thread?

As it was explained in the pregame show, Americans love to see people win, but once they start winning "too much", we turn on the person. That goes for athletes and celebrities as a whole, and friends/colleagues on a granular level.

+1, this is why most people correctly hate Tom Brady and the Brady-Belichick era Patriots. For instance, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Eli Manning for no other reason than that his Giants teams beat the Patriots twice at the Superbowl and kept Brady et al from two more rings. And the fact that Brady was married to Gisele, a certified super model, and they both seemed to know they were beautiful and perfect -- people haaaated them. Patriots fans liked Brady, and he had allure for a certain brand of alpha-bro who says things like "I just like winners" at dinner parties, but most people hated them.

Taylor/Travis are the new Tom/Gisele and this will automatically make people dislike them and pick apart everything they say and do. It's just the way of things, I don't even think it's personal. We build people up and then we tear them down. Natural cycle of celebrity.

Except Travis is no Tom Brady and TS is no Gisele (looks wise. Of course she’s wildly more successful professionally)

I actually think Taylor and Gisele have a ton of professional similarities in terms of their careers and the level of domination they are/were at when they met their NFL significant others. Taylor has more money, but she's at a similar level in the music industry to what Gisele was at in the modeling industry at the time. But Taylor should take a look at Gisele -- like Shakira, Gisele backburnered her career in order to be the supportive wife for Brady's career and raise their kids. She left a ton of money on the table to make herself secondary to him. And look how that turned out.

Sometimes successful women are drawn to men with huge egos, and these men often look at these beautiful, accomplished women as the ultimate trophy. But once they have that trophy... they just want more trophies. They are living out a childhood fantasy, it's not true love. Tom Brady's first and only love is himself, and this is likely true for Kelce too.

True, however Travis is at the end of the career cycle for a tight end. So he's prime to retire, transition to entertainment news (sports and e-news) and follow Taylor around for another year.

He won't retire this year, with the chance to make history and win three and a row with the Chiefs next year. He's aging but could reasonably play another year or two if he's healthy. He won't take as many snaps but there will be room for him on the team as they will need to bring in some new guys and you want veterans there to help bring them a long.

When he does retire, he will obviously aim for entertainment but I think he's aiming higher than the typical ex-NFL broadcasting gig -- I think he'd settle for a Strahan-esque career, but I think what he really wants is to be working on the creative side. Expect another SNL hosting gig this spring and for him to start looking for cameos in TV shows and movies.

I do not think he will be content to follow Taylor around on tour and in the student, and to be her house husband if they stay together. He loves the limelight and he will start to get angry and frustrated in retirement if he can't find a way to stay in it.

Look at how Brady handled retirement -- it killed his marriage. But he and Gisele were established by then, with multiple kids. Kelce will be retiring near the beginning of their relationship (again, assuming they stay together). It's a really dicy time to be with a pro-athlete at this level. He's been a football star literally since he was a child, and now he has to go do something else. These men STRUGGLE with this transition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with trying a new relationship out.

But I do think she is a very smart, high intellect person. He does not seem to be.

I agree with this. I'm no swiftie, but it is obvious that she is a highly intelligent person. He is going to bore her eventually.

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Has Kelce commented on his sideline behavior? The more times I see it, the worse I think it is. I know it can be frustrating to get benched and AR was making questionable calls, but Kelce's behavior was too much. I do hope he comes out and publicly apologizes. I can see TS's team demanding it. It's a really bad look for her young fans.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with trying a new relationship out.

But I do think she is a very smart, high intellect person. He does not seem to be.

I agree with this. I'm no swiftie, but it is obvious that she is a highly intelligent person. He is going to bore her eventually.

It is? I have to admit, I’ve never paid attention to her or football, but I’m inexplicable intrigued by this matchup, and every single clip I’ve seen of her, she seems not quite right. Like a cardboard cutout or a fembot or something. Not getting high intelligence whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with trying a new relationship out.

But I do think she is a very smart, high intellect person. He does not seem to be.

I agree with this. I'm no swiftie, but it is obvious that she is a highly intelligent person. He is going to bore her eventually.

She may be intellectual but she's also very hungry for love and adoration, which he's giving her right now. I actually think he's the one likely to get bored. She will want to maintain this level of focus and connection, but he's going to tire of it and start looking for someone who is easier and has "less drama." And there will be a line of women happy to be his easy, low drama girlfriend whenever he wants.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with trying a new relationship out.

But I do think she is a very smart, high intellect person. He does not seem to be.

I agree with this. I'm no swiftie, but it is obvious that she is a highly intelligent person. He is going to bore her eventually.

She may be intellectual but she's also very hungry for love and adoration, which he's giving her right now. I actually think he's the one likely to get bored. She will want to maintain this level of focus and connection, but he's going to tire of it and start looking for someone who is easier and has "less drama." And there will be a line of women happy to be his easy, low drama girlfriend whenever he wants.

Why would she be an intellectual? She never went to college, still writes about boyfriends in her 30s, doesn't talk about politics or social issues unless it's safe and aligns perfectly with a PR-fed agenda...

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Anonymous wrote:Has Kelce commented on his sideline behavior? The more times I see it, the worse I think it is. I know it can be frustrating to get benched and AR was making questionable calls, but Kelce's behavior was too much. I do hope he comes out and publicly apologizes. I can see TS's team demanding it. It's a really bad look for her young fans.

KC won, everyone wants to forget about it, including Andy Reid who I am not sure even fully noticed it was happening (he was laser focused on the game).

I think it was weird, aggro behavior, but I think from the side of the team and the NFL, no one will care and it will be blown off as normal aggression in a high pressure moment.

It would actually be interesting if Taylor or her team decided to make an issue of it or ask Kelce to publicly apologize to protect HER image. I honestly don't know how that would play out. Football is very insular and I could see Travis being annoyed at the idea that he needs to be accountable to Swift's fans for something he did while playing football. That's really not usually how it works, because I can't think of a football player who has ever dated someone this high profile with "young fans." Closest I can think of is when Romo dated Jessica Simpson, but she was nowhere near Taylor's level of popularity and didn't really have a legion of teenage girl fans. Also Romo never did anything like this -- I'm sure he had some frustrations or maybe shouted while they were dating, but mostly people just blamed her whenever he lost or struggled so the power dynamics were very different.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with trying a new relationship out.

But I do think she is a very smart, high intellect person. He does not seem to be.

I agree with this. I'm no swiftie, but it is obvious that she is a highly intelligent person. He is going to bore her eventually.

She may be intellectual but she's also very hungry for love and adoration, which he's giving her right now. I actually think he's the one likely to get bored. She will want to maintain this level of focus and connection, but he's going to tire of it and start looking for someone who is easier and has "less drama." And there will be a line of women happy to be his easy, low drama girlfriend whenever he wants.

Why would she be an intellectual? She never went to college, still writes about boyfriends in her 30s, doesn't talk about politics or social issues unless it's safe and aligns perfectly with a PR-fed agenda...

I'm PP and don't really disagree with you, just taking the premise that she's "intellectual" at face value.

She does style herself as intellectual though, her new album being probably the biggest and best example of this. I think it's like a Donald Trump effect -- she presents herself as literary and academic, so people think she is, even though she is demonstrably not. The truth is most people don't read actual poetry or serious literature, so to the average American, Taylor Swift lyrics probably seem pretty "intellectual."

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Have you listened to her songs? If you think anyone can write like that, I don't know what to tell you. It's evident that she has enormous talent and intellect. Not only lyrics, but the music, too.

Or is it only something to be impressed by if it's a man like Bob Dylan or Truman Capote?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so happy for them. She won another Grammy this year and his team won another superbowl. I don’t understand all the hate. Have Russian bots invaded the thread?

No, just incels, incellettes, gaylors, MAGAs and others who've never been in love before.

"She's patting his back so it must be fake???"

Use a few more internet buzzwords, terminally online loner. Go get some fresh air.

Hit a nerve, did I? Here's some love and happiness for your Monday grumps

That…is not authentic love. She looks miserable and embarrassed by this obnoxious dope. And he is painfully unfunny. Zero rizz.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you listened to her songs? If you think anyone can write like that, I don't know what to tell you. It's evident that she has enormous talent and intellect. Not only lyrics, but the music, too.

Or is it only something to be impressed by if it's a man like Bob Dylan or Truman Capote?

There are many talented female writers out there. In fact, all my favorite writers are. Taylor Swift is not among them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with trying a new relationship out.

But I do think she is a very smart, high intellect person. He does not seem to be.

I agree with this. I'm no swiftie, but it is obvious that she is a highly intelligent person. He is going to bore her eventually.

It is? I have to admit, I’ve never paid attention to her or football, but I’m inexplicable intrigued by this matchup, and every single clip I’ve seen of her, she seems not quite right. Like a cardboard cutout or a fembot or something. Not getting high intelligence whatsoever.

Preface this to say that I am really not a swiftie, i don't think she's a good singer or dancer.

However, when you go through and read the lyrics to all her songs, see the elaborate videos she storyboarded, and examine her eras tour, it's clear that her brain is working extremely well. I do think she's odd and is probably on the autism spectrum. She's the female Elon Musk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has Kelce commented on his sideline behavior? The more times I see it, the worse I think it is. I know it can be frustrating to get benched and AR was making questionable calls, but Kelce's behavior was too much. I do hope he comes out and publicly apologizes. I can see TS's team demanding it. It's a really bad look for her young fans.

I somewhat agree on his behavior. The two are an odd match, to me. She sort of looks like a child next to him (looks only, obv she's a savvy business woman). Their demeanors also seem to be unmatched, with him trending into uber alpha male territory at some points. She's the down to earthy (seemingly) pop princess.

It's a weird match but, hey, not my circus.