Jen Hatmaker
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Anonymous
Don't listen to this person. Half of these bullet points are wrong or assumptions. Idiot. |
Anonymous
Why should anyone believe you over the other poster? |
Anonymous
I have a pretty good idea of who the ally was, but until I have facts I will not "initial drop" On another note, I assure you these things are FACTS, as of a few months ago anyhow. * The affair was NOT with an ally, it was with a 27 year old that he met out with his biker buddies. * Brandon did not leave them broke, I assure you once the marriage was over plenty of money was in the bank. * Her ally was shunned because she had a strong opinion regarding how she talks about and to her children online and voiced it on her feed * Jen and Tina are not friends or enemies, they have never met in person. * Brandon and Jen only speak if they have to according to Jen * His relationship with his children is still on the mends but appears to be going well excluding Sydney * The lake house was sold because neither party wanted it and profits were split 50/50 *Jen got the house and all its belongings and Brandon got a boat, 2 bikes and a classic car or two and a portion of the money left in the bank *They share all expenses that the kids incur. * Tyler and Jen have a REAL relationship * They did not have an intimate relationship for the last 3 years of the marriage (meaning no sex) * Not confirmed because I heard from a friend of a friend (All of Tina's previous relationships have been with very normal/kind men excluding the guy she dated before Brandon, he was evidentially physical with her). * Neither Jen nor Brandon have a drinking problem. TRUST ME * Brandon styed the entire 31 days at rehab * Just by observation when I was around-Brandon - He did not work at a "regular job" because he was cooking, cleaning, helping Jen with all of her online shenanigans and taking care of 5 children. I realize I did not elaborate on these things but I just don't have the energy and besides what does it matter, I just got straight to the point which is what I would want to know. I don't need the 20 minute version, spit that shit out! I admire her strength and his courage to go public on trauma among other things etc. etc... I wish them both well and I cannot even begin to imagine what Tina must feel like being a part of this insane circle. However, after listening to the podcast it appears Brandon told her within the first 30 minutes exactly who he was and what he had been through. I don't know why the hell she stayed but she did. Wonder if it has anything to do with her being a nurse and feeling like she has to "save" or help. It appears she is getting some back lash because he bought her flowers yesterday according to his instagram out of sympathy. I have bare minimum scoop on her. Tyler as well, did he really know what came with Jen, yes he did! But that relationship is flourishing. Bye now. That should be enough for the sharks to feed on for a few more 100 pages, me included. lol There is no way the relationship with Jen and Tyler is REAL. |
Anonymous
There is no way the relationship with Jen and Tyler is REAL. *1000 and I don’t believe for a second that neither of them have a drinking problem. Jen’s constant posting about needing to be alone with some wine because she “just can’t” is a problem in itself even if she’s barely drinking anything! |
Anonymous
| Pretty sure our definition of a real relationship and a drinking problem are different. |
Anonymous
The person who posted above is a wanna be insider and doesn't "truly" know the complete story. Bit and pieces here and there, there's no way they actually know the details of the divorce. It has been kept private. Assumptions. |
Anonymous
His actions have been undoubtedly more damaging to the family. But when you write books about minimalism one year, then post pics with the Louis Vuitton bags later on (help me out, those are what, 3K a pop?) then something is awry. It’s off putting I suppose. And there is a sense that online purveyors of content are being sold simply whatever will sell. For intimate family members, it would indeed be a double standard to judge them in the same manner. But none of the people on this thread are intimate family members. They are commenting on things that may impact them personally.An affair hasn’t impacted them. But maybe buying into an image, which then later shifts like a chameleon, may have have an impact, albeit minor. |
Anonymous
Jen and Brandon have both been like chameleons. They’ve definitely sold an image or idea and then pivoted. It seems the ire with Jen is that she was actually good at it. Brandon couldn’t pivot when the going got tough. He self sabotaged. I just don’t get the sympathy for Brandon, who is so similar to Jen in most of the ways people complain about her here. He was cool guy preacher man dad guy. He wrote books and did speaking events, too, he just didn’t captivate. That’s on him. Why do we feel sorry for him now but hate Jen? |
Anonymous
| He may not be as captivating or successful, but he is less cringey. The cringe factor is a huge part of it. If someone told me I was going through a Jenaissance I would throw up in my mouth then I would slap them and tell them never to repeat it. He seems to have a bit more awareness. The fact that she has no idea that it’s cringey makes it more cringey. And I’ve been on the receiving end of an affair like her and yet he seems more relatable. It’s really just a personality thing for me. |
Anonymous
He is a 50 year old man who wears an oversized ball cap pulled down over his ears and bedazzled jeans. He is so cringe. He’s the male version of giant feather earrings and hair twirling. The are the same. |
Anonymous
Oh my gosh that made me laugh cause you are so right. They are both still showboating just in different ways. Admittedly he seems more humble and heartfelt but he’s also done some quantifiably terrible things. Jen still lacks awareness of how far she’s drifted from a honest relatable person. It doesn’t appear she cares as long as people use her links and buy her stuff. Sad. |
Anonymous
| Didn’t a person named Jen Hatmaker write a book about combating “excess”? Is this the same Jen Hatmaker who takes month long MeCamps and hawks a big start stream of overpriced travel ware, shoes, bags, and nighttime routine kits??? |
Anonymous
Sure. The point is didn’t a person named Brandon Hatmaker write a book about building a deeper faith? The same Brandon Hatmaker who was banging randoms, gambling, and abusing drugs and alcohol? He’s only sort of remorseful. Still an alcoholic. Flaunting a lifestyle that’s in direct opposition to what he wrote about in his book and preached from the pulpit. The double standards abound. |
Anonymous
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I don’t know about double standards. This thread has been filled with frustration over Brandon and Jen’s choices and it’s had moments where we acknowledge their individual beauty and strengths. After hearing the podcast I actually had more empathy for both of them and feel sad the way their story turned out. I know they are both saying how happy they are with their new partners and new career endeavors but deep down they know there was a better way that would have kept their family intact but it was not found due to many factors. I also get why they feel relieved to be done with their marriage given the level of toxicity it had fallen into before the end.
They are just human after all I don’t expect them to be saints, but I do appreciate when they take ownership and share valuable insights from their journey. |
Anonymous
| How many of Jen's Christian circle are still friends with her? Jennie Allen? Jamie Ivey? |