Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

The second podcast is honestly kind of annoying. I think part of it is the female podcast host. Her tone of voice sounds like she is immature and flirting with him instead of just interviewing him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I listened yesterday, but not today.

Did he address how he’s handling it with his kids? There is still a big rift with him and Sydney

He was respectful of their privacy by not speaking too much about them individually. He did, however, talk about some of the redemptive conversations he's had while working on his relationship with his kids; that's clearly important to him. And it sounds like those relationships are improving, but it wasn't clear if that's with some of the kids but not the others.

Sydney's name came up in the context of a question from the host who asked if his and Jen's stance on LGBTQ changed as a result of being the parent of a gay child or if it had changed before she came out. (FWIW, he said their beliefs evolved before she came out.) His conviction in support of the LGBTQ community was strong. He also mentioned that out of respect to Sydney he didn't want to make the conversation about her, which I think was appropriate. In general he did a good job sharing his past without violating the privacy of Jen or the kids; he avoided getting into specifics that should be their stories to share.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The second podcast is honestly kind of annoying. I think part of it is the female podcast host. Her tone of voice sounds like she is immature and flirting with him instead of just interviewing him.

100%

A good interviewer is willing to challenge and ask difficult questions, to probe if something doesn't make sense. All she would say were things like "that is so important," "you are so right," "I love how you stated that," blah blah blah. And she spoke too softly. But that wasn't Brandon's fault. The best part was when he was on a roll talking without her interjections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I listened yesterday, but not today.

Did he address how he’s handling it with his kids? There is still a big rift with him and Sydney

He was respectful of their privacy by not speaking too much about them individually. He did, however, talk about some of the redemptive conversations he's had while working on his relationship with his kids; that's clearly important to him. And it sounds like those relationships are improving, but it wasn't clear if that's with some of the kids but not the others.

Sydney's name came up in the context of a question from the host who asked if his and Jen's stance on LGBTQ changed as a result of being the parent of a gay child or if it had changed before she came out. (FWIW, he said their beliefs evolved before she came out.) His conviction in support of the LGBTQ community was strong. He also mentioned that out of respect to Sydney he didn't want to make the conversation about her, which I think was appropriate. In general he did a good job sharing his past without violating the privacy of Jen or the kids; he avoided getting into specifics that should be their stories to share.

What’s he supposed to say? Of course his beliefs evolved before she came out.

He’d be immediately disparaged if he said anything else other than this. Not earth shattering, relevatory news here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I listened yesterday, but not today.

Did he address how he’s handling it with his kids? There is still a big rift with him and Sydney

He was respectful of their privacy by not speaking too much about them individually. He did, however, talk about some of the redemptive conversations he's had while working on his relationship with his kids; that's clearly important to him. And it sounds like those relationships are improving, but it wasn't clear if that's with some of the kids but not the others.

Sydney's name came up in the context of a question from the host who asked if his and Jen's stance on LGBTQ changed as a result of being the parent of a gay child or if it had changed before she came out. (FWIW, he said their beliefs evolved before she came out.) His conviction in support of the LGBTQ community was strong. He also mentioned that out of respect to Sydney he didn't want to make the conversation about her, which I think was appropriate. In general he did a good job sharing his past without violating the privacy of Jen or the kids; he avoided getting into specifics that should be their stories to share.

What’s he supposed to say? Of course his beliefs evolved before she came out.

He’d be immediately disparaged if he said anything else other than this. Not earth shattering, relevatory news here.

It might now be earth shattering to you, but it means something to other people, including parents adapting to the sexuality of their own children.

No need to be rude to PP, who was just sharing and answering a question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I listened yesterday, but not today.

Did he address how he’s handling it with his kids? There is still a big rift with him and Sydney

He was respectful of their privacy by not speaking too much about them individually. He did, however, talk about some of the redemptive conversations he's had while working on his relationship with his kids; that's clearly important to him. And it sounds like those relationships are improving, but it wasn't clear if that's with some of the kids but not the others.

Sydney's name came up in the context of a question from the host who asked if his and Jen's stance on LGBTQ changed as a result of being the parent of a gay child or if it had changed before she came out. (FWIW, he said their beliefs evolved before she came out.) His conviction in support of the LGBTQ community was strong. He also mentioned that out of respect to Sydney he didn't want to make the conversation about her, which I think was appropriate. In general he did a good job sharing his past without violating the privacy of Jen or the kids; he avoided getting into specifics that should be their stories to share.

What’s he supposed to say? Of course his beliefs evolved before she came out.

The second podcast was not nearly as effective at illiciting sympathy. He should have stopped at one. Definitely made me question whether he is in denial about his substance abuse issues. Also, no matter how much Tina “saved” him, I can’t imagine any professional would recommend getting into a new relationship while in a relapse very soon after imploding a 26 year marriage along with the other trauma he endured and caused. All that being said, the part where he spoke about his evolved beliefs regarding LGBTQ and his daughter coming out, was insightful and somewhat inspiring.

He’d be immediately disparaged if he said anything else other than this. Not earth shattering, relevatory news here.

[Anonymous]

The second podcast was not nearly as effective at illiciting sympathy. He should have stopped at one. Definitely made me question whether he is in denial about his substance abuse issues. Also, no matter how much Tina “saved” him, I can’t imagine any professional would recommend getting into a new relationship while in a relapse very soon after imploding a 26 year marriage along with the other trauma he endured and caused. All that being said, the part where he spoke about his evolved beliefs regarding LGBTQ and his daughter coming out, was insightful and somewhat inspiring.

[Anonymous]

Intimacy does not always mean sex. I highly doubt that they went 3 years with no sex. As mentioned before, his drug use likely impacted his performance and with all of the strain of things, less sex in a marriage would not, in and of itself, be super alarming. No sex and less sex are very different—-neither is a pass for cheating. He is an alcoholic in active addiction who is admitting to some seriously heinous behavior and people are more upset that Jen is giving a promo code for a backpack?! The double standards here are astonishing. Really, what has she done that’s so terrible?

[Anonymous]

“I was a SJW pastor till I caused the death of my friend and the guilt caused me to become a booze/pills addict who gambled away all my kids’ college funds and cheated on my wife”

:: insert incongruous symbol ::

“Two months later I was Grade A Boyfriend Material who drinks alcohol at leisure.”

Someone else can do Jennifer’s

[Anonymous]

You would be amazed the number of people in celibate marriages. I know of several. It’s generally hush hush due to the shame. Sometimes it’s due to health reasons (including low hormones) a porn addict spouse, substance abuse, emotional problems.

[Anonymous]

Sorta sus that today Jen makes a post sharing an irrelevant post about something and specifically references Brandon. I’m so curious to know where their friendship stands now. Are they friendly? Does she like Tina? So many questions about these two. Get someone in here who knows and will anonymously “dish” it out. 😂

[Anonymous]

The ally. Jen unfollowed one LC board member who fits the hints her friends keep dropping.

Nope

[Anonymous]

I’ve been wondering what those years of Brandon being completely closed off emotionally while drinking heavily and having anger issues looked like. Was it like walking on eggshells in their home? Did Jen try to compensate by putting up a big facade of “we are just fine?” Did everyone feel like they needed to keep the peace so dad doesn’t lose it?

Sydney may not be ready to reconcile cause she has way more to work out than just his adultery and gambling. Given his continued drinking she may not believe he’s really on the mend. Maybe seeing her dad go from a secret affair with an “ally” then straight into a serious relationship with Tina within weeks left her cold. No one would know more about the impact this all had on her mom. There’s some serious justice issues to work through here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The ally. Jen unfollowed one LC board member who fits the hints her friends keep dropping.

Can you provide initials?


I have a pretty good idea of who the ally was, but until I have facts I will not "initial drop"

On another note, I assure you these things are FACTS, as of a few months ago anyhow.

* The affair was NOT with an ally, it was with a 27 year old that he met out with his biker buddies.
* Brandon did not leave them broke, I assure you once the marriage was over plenty of money was in the bank.
* Her ally was shunned because she had a strong opinion regarding how she talks about and to her children online and voiced it on her feed
* Jen and Tina are not friends or enemies, they have never met in person.
* Brandon and Jen only speak if they have to according to Jen
* His relationship with his children is still on the mends but appears to be going well excluding Sydney
* The lake house was sold because neither party wanted it and profits were split 50/50
*Jen got the house and all its belongings and Brandon got a boat, 2 bikes and a classic car or two and a portion of the money left in the bank
*They share all expenses that the kids incur.
* Tyler and Jen have a REAL relationship
* They did not have an intimate relationship for the last 3 years of the marriage (meaning no sex)
* Not confirmed because I heard from a friend of a friend (All of Tina's previous relationships have been with very normal/kind men excluding the guy she dated before Brandon, he was evidentially physical with her).
* Neither Jen nor Brandon have a drinking problem. TRUST ME
* Brandon styed the entire 31 days at rehab
* Just by observation when I was around-Brandon - He did not work at a "regular job" because he was cooking, cleaning, helping Jen with all of her online shenanigans and taking care of 5 children.

I realize I did not elaborate on these things but I just don't have the energy and besides what does it matter, I just got straight to the point which is what I would want to know. I don't need the 20 minute version, spit that shit out!

I admire her strength and his courage to go public on trauma among other things etc. etc...

I wish them both well and I cannot even begin to imagine what Tina must feel like being a part of this insane circle. However, after listening to the podcast it appears Brandon told her within the first 30 minutes exactly who he was and what he had been through. I don't know why the hell she stayed but she did. Wonder if it has anything to do with her being a nurse and feeling like she has to "save" or help. It appears she is getting some back lash because he bought her flowers yesterday according to his instagram out of sympathy. I have bare minimum scoop on her.

Tyler as well, did he really know what came with Jen, yes he did! But that relationship is flourishing.

Bye now.

That should be enough for the sharks to feed on for a few more 100 pages, me included. lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The ally. Jen unfollowed one LC board member who fits the hints her friends keep dropping.

Can you provide initials?

I have a pretty good idea of who the ally was, but until I have facts I will not "initial drop"

On another note, I assure you these things are FACTS, as of a few months ago anyhow.

* The affair was NOT with an ally, it was with a 27 year old that he met out with his biker buddies.
* Brandon did not leave them broke, I assure you once the marriage was over plenty of money was in the bank.
* Her ally was shunned because she had a strong opinion regarding how she talks about and to her children online and voiced it on her feed
* Jen and Tina are not friends or enemies, they have never met in person.
* Brandon and Jen only speak if they have to according to Jen
* His relationship with his children is still on the mends but appears to be going well excluding Sydney
* The lake house was sold because neither party wanted it and profits were split 50/50
*Jen got the house and all its belongings and Brandon got a boat, 2 bikes and a classic car or two and a portion of the money left in the bank
*They share all expenses that the kids incur.
* Tyler and Jen have a REAL relationship
* They did not have an intimate relationship for the last 3 years of the marriage (meaning no sex)
* Not confirmed because I heard from a friend of a friend (All of Tina's previous relationships have been with very normal/kind men excluding the guy she dated before Brandon, he was evidentially physical with her).
* Neither Jen nor Brandon have a drinking problem. TRUST ME
* Brandon styed the entire 31 days at rehab
* Just by observation when I was around-Brandon - He did not work at a "regular job" because he was cooking, cleaning, helping Jen with all of her online shenanigans and taking care of 5 children.

I realize I did not elaborate on these things but I just don't have the energy and besides what does it matter, I just got straight to the point which is what I would want to know. I don't need the 20 minute version, spit that shit out!

I admire her strength and his courage to go public on trauma among other things etc. etc...

I wish them both well and I cannot even begin to imagine what Tina must feel like being a part of this insane circle. However, after listening to the podcast it appears Brandon told her within the first 30 minutes exactly who he was and what he had been through. I don't know why the hell she stayed but she did. Wonder if it has anything to do with her being a nurse and feeling like she has to "save" or help. It appears she is getting some back lash because he bought her flowers yesterday according to his instagram out of sympathy. I have bare minimum scoop on her.

Tyler as well, did he really know what came with Jen, yes he did! But that relationship is flourishing.

Bye now.

That should be enough for the sharks to feed on for a few more 100 pages, me included. lol

Don't listen to this person. Half of these bullet points are wrong or assumptions.