Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

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My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

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Anonymous wrote:My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

Why do you hate the Connecticut Avenue merchants?

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Anonymous wrote:My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

You realize the whole point is not only accessing downtown but for internneighborhood mobility, right? I mean, how does one get to a place like Vace if they don't ride on Connecticut Avenue? And all those houses that have driveways on Reno Road, how will that work?

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Anonymous wrote:My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

You realize the whole point is not only accessing downtown but for internneighborhood mobility, right? I mean, how does one get to a place like Vace if they don't ride on Connecticut Avenue? And all those houses that have driveways on Reno Road, how will that work?

If only there were a bus, or an underground choo choo, or even wide sidewalks on Connecticut Ave.

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Anonymous wrote:My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

You realize the whole point is not only accessing downtown but for internneighborhood mobility, right? I mean, how does one get to a place like Vace if they don't ride on Connecticut Avenue? And all those houses that have driveways on Reno Road, how will that work?

Hmm... How could one get to a deli in the middle of a block. It's completely unaccessible. If only some sort of bipedal multimodal transport was available to get there from a lettered street it'd be a gamechanger.

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Anonymous wrote:My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

Makes too much sense

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So the choice is to: A) trust the instincts of the person who built a multimillion dollar business from the ground up that has employed hundreds of people and provided an important community amenity for decades, OR B) trust the instincts an over educated and underemployed bike riding non-profit worker who’s never started a business or made a payroll. Hmmmm. I will go with A.

In other words, you hate science when it doesn't agree with your sentiments.

Social sciences are not real sciences. Sorry.

Plenty of social science is published in hard science journals and a lot of social science is more rigorous than so-called hard science. You have no idea what you are talking about.

That may be true but it doesn't apply to this survey which is conpletely devoid of cause and effect.

And then there's the way it's being used. There is nothing in common between the location in downtown Toronto and Connecticut Ave. If it was being used to promote a bike lane project on K Street or M Street it might have some relevence. It would have been nice had a survey like this been done in Foggy Bottom. Still irrelevent to Connecticut Ave but it might lrovide some useful data.

I love the way opponents contend that Connecticut Avenue is some unique road in the world that none of the examples in this 220+ page thread from around the world compares to. Sorry, neither DC nor Conn Ave are unique where consideration for bike lanes are concerned.

Rock Creek Park/Beach Drive/ and the bike path in Rock Creek park run parallel to Connecticut Ave NW. Bike lanes throughout the city are modestly used at best.

Wait until you find out about the letter/number street grid system in DC. All those parallel roads! So redundant! So unnecessary! All you really need in DC is N, S, and E Capitol Sts; plus Independence Ave OR Constitution Ave, one or the other, not both.

Exactly! So build bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue so that it can be a vibrant, mixed-use, multimodal urban boulevard. Reno Rd, which is a short distance to the west, can be widened to accommodate more thru commuter traffic.

So your brilliant idea is to turn an avenue into a road and a road into a street

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So the choice is to: A) trust the instincts of the person who built a multimillion dollar business from the ground up that has employed hundreds of people and provided an important community amenity for decades, OR B) trust the instincts an over educated and underemployed bike riding non-profit worker who’s never started a business or made a payroll. Hmmmm. I will go with A.

In other words, you hate science when it doesn't agree with your sentiments.

Social sciences are not real sciences. Sorry.

Plenty of social science is published in hard science journals and a lot of social science is more rigorous than so-called hard science. You have no idea what you are talking about.

That may be true but it doesn't apply to this survey which is conpletely devoid of cause and effect.

And then there's the way it's being used. There is nothing in common between the location in downtown Toronto and Connecticut Ave. If it was being used to promote a bike lane project on K Street or M Street it might have some relevence. It would have been nice had a survey like this been done in Foggy Bottom. Still irrelevent to Connecticut Ave but it might lrovide some useful data.

I love the way opponents contend that Connecticut Avenue is some unique road in the world that none of the examples in this 220+ page thread from around the world compares to. Sorry, neither DC nor Conn Ave are unique where consideration for bike lanes are concerned.

Rock Creek Park/Beach Drive/ and the bike path in Rock Creek park run parallel to Connecticut Ave NW. Bike lanes throughout the city are modestly used at best.

According to DDOT a whopping 1% (rounded up) of people using Connecticut Avenue, not including buses, are bicyclists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

You realize the whole point is not only accessing downtown but for internneighborhood mobility, right? I mean, how does one get to a place like Vace if they don't ride on Connecticut Avenue? And all those houses that have driveways on Reno Road, how will that work?

If only there were a bus, or an underground choo choo, or even wide sidewalks on Connecticut Ave.

Or bike lanes!

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So the choice is to: A) trust the instincts of the person who built a multimillion dollar business from the ground up that has employed hundreds of people and provided an important community amenity for decades, OR B) trust the instincts an over educated and underemployed bike riding non-profit worker who’s never started a business or made a payroll. Hmmmm. I will go with A.

In other words, you hate science when it doesn't agree with your sentiments.

Social sciences are not real sciences. Sorry.

Plenty of social science is published in hard science journals and a lot of social science is more rigorous than so-called hard science. You have no idea what you are talking about.

That may be true but it doesn't apply to this survey which is conpletely devoid of cause and effect.

And then there's the way it's being used. There is nothing in common between the location in downtown Toronto and Connecticut Ave. If it was being used to promote a bike lane project on K Street or M Street it might have some relevence. It would have been nice had a survey like this been done in Foggy Bottom. Still irrelevent to Connecticut Ave but it might lrovide some useful data.

I love the way opponents contend that Connecticut Avenue is some unique road in the world that none of the examples in this 220+ page thread from around the world compares to. Sorry, neither DC nor Conn Ave are unique where consideration for bike lanes are concerned.

Rock Creek Park/Beach Drive/ and the bike path in Rock Creek park run parallel to Connecticut Ave NW. Bike lanes throughout the city are modestly used at best.

According to DDOT a whopping 1% (rounded up) of people using Connecticut Avenue, not including buses, are bicyclists.

Yes, it's true. People are not buses. Buses are not people. I'm happy to hear that DDOT has confirmed this.

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So the choice is to: A) trust the instincts of the person who built a multimillion dollar business from the ground up that has employed hundreds of people and provided an important community amenity for decades, OR B) trust the instincts an over educated and underemployed bike riding non-profit worker who’s never started a business or made a payroll. Hmmmm. I will go with A.

In other words, you hate science when it doesn't agree with your sentiments.

Social sciences are not real sciences. Sorry.

Plenty of social science is published in hard science journals and a lot of social science is more rigorous than so-called hard science. You have no idea what you are talking about.

That may be true but it doesn't apply to this survey which is conpletely devoid of cause and effect.

And then there's the way it's being used. There is nothing in common between the location in downtown Toronto and Connecticut Ave. If it was being used to promote a bike lane project on K Street or M Street it might have some relevence. It would have been nice had a survey like this been done in Foggy Bottom. Still irrelevent to Connecticut Ave but it might lrovide some useful data.

I love the way opponents contend that Connecticut Avenue is some unique road in the world that none of the examples in this 220+ page thread from around the world compares to. Sorry, neither DC nor Conn Ave are unique where consideration for bike lanes are concerned.

Rock Creek Park/Beach Drive/ and the bike path in Rock Creek park run parallel to Connecticut Ave NW. Bike lanes throughout the city are modestly used at best.

Wait until you find out about the letter/number street grid system in DC. All those parallel roads! So redundant! So unnecessary! All you really need in DC is N, S, and E Capitol Sts; plus Independence Ave OR Constitution Ave, one or the other, not both.

Exactly! So build bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue so that it can be a vibrant, mixed-use, multimodal urban boulevard. Reno Rd, which is a short distance to the west, can be widened to accommodate more thru commuter traffic.

So your brilliant idea is to turn an avenue into a road and a road into a street

Agree. This brilliant idea is to turn a major throughway into DC for over 100 years into a residential street, while turning a residential street with residences and schools on both sides into a throughway. Perfectly sensible. The stupid thinking is unbelievable. The better answer maybe to figure out how the current pathways through RC Park could be expanded. Those riding downtown would benefit from a safe and protected and attractive route.

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So the choice is to: A) trust the instincts of the person who built a multimillion dollar business from the ground up that has employed hundreds of people and provided an important community amenity for decades, OR B) trust the instincts an over educated and underemployed bike riding non-profit worker who’s never started a business or made a payroll. Hmmmm. I will go with A.

In other words, you hate science when it doesn't agree with your sentiments.

Social sciences are not real sciences. Sorry.

Plenty of social science is published in hard science journals and a lot of social science is more rigorous than so-called hard science. You have no idea what you are talking about.

That may be true but it doesn't apply to this survey which is conpletely devoid of cause and effect.

And then there's the way it's being used. There is nothing in common between the location in downtown Toronto and Connecticut Ave. If it was being used to promote a bike lane project on K Street or M Street it might have some relevence. It would have been nice had a survey like this been done in Foggy Bottom. Still irrelevent to Connecticut Ave but it might lrovide some useful data.

I love the way opponents contend that Connecticut Avenue is some unique road in the world that none of the examples in this 220+ page thread from around the world compares to. Sorry, neither DC nor Conn Ave are unique where consideration for bike lanes are concerned.

Rock Creek Park/Beach Drive/ and the bike path in Rock Creek park run parallel to Connecticut Ave NW. Bike lanes throughout the city are modestly used at best.

According to DDOT a whopping 1% (rounded up) of people using Connecticut Avenue, not including buses, are bicyclists.

I guess we all need to cater to this 1%. No doubt, there is an overlap with the other 1%.

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So the choice is to: A) trust the instincts of the person who built a multimillion dollar business from the ground up that has employed hundreds of people and provided an important community amenity for decades, OR B) trust the instincts an over educated and underemployed bike riding non-profit worker who’s never started a business or made a payroll. Hmmmm. I will go with A.

In other words, you hate science when it doesn't agree with your sentiments.

Social sciences are not real sciences. Sorry.

Plenty of social science is published in hard science journals and a lot of social science is more rigorous than so-called hard science. You have no idea what you are talking about.

That may be true but it doesn't apply to this survey which is conpletely devoid of cause and effect.

And then there's the way it's being used. There is nothing in common between the location in downtown Toronto and Connecticut Ave. If it was being used to promote a bike lane project on K Street or M Street it might have some relevence. It would have been nice had a survey like this been done in Foggy Bottom. Still irrelevent to Connecticut Ave but it might lrovide some useful data.

I love the way opponents contend that Connecticut Avenue is some unique road in the world that none of the examples in this 220+ page thread from around the world compares to. Sorry, neither DC nor Conn Ave are unique where consideration for bike lanes are concerned.

Rock Creek Park/Beach Drive/ and the bike path in Rock Creek park run parallel to Connecticut Ave NW. Bike lanes throughout the city are modestly used at best.

Wait until you find out about the letter/number street grid system in DC. All those parallel roads! So redundant! So unnecessary! All you really need in DC is N, S, and E Capitol Sts; plus Independence Ave OR Constitution Ave, one or the other, not both.

Exactly! So build bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue so that it can be a vibrant, mixed-use, multimodal urban boulevard. Reno Rd, which is a short distance to the west, can be widened to accommodate more thru commuter traffic.

Alternatively, build the bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and don't widen Reno Road. Reno Road also doesn't need more cars.

Agree 100% Note that Reno actually has houses on it, plus several schools. And it is not wide and could not realistically be turned into a 3-4 lane road.

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Anonymous wrote:My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

You realize the whole point is not only accessing downtown but for internneighborhood mobility, right? I mean, how does one get to a place like Vace if they don't ride on Connecticut Avenue? And all those houses that have driveways on Reno Road, how will that work?

Hmm... How could one get to a deli in the middle of a block. It's completely unaccessible. If only some sort of bipedal multimodal transport was available to get there from a lettered street it'd be a gamechanger.

You bike on the sidewalk, like bikers have been doing for decades.

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Anonymous wrote:My vote personally would be ban bikes on Connecticut but ban cars on Reno and make it bikes only.

You realize the whole point is not only accessing downtown but for internneighborhood mobility, right? I mean, how does one get to a place like Vace if they don't ride on Connecticut Avenue? And all those houses that have driveways on Reno Road, how will that work?

If only there were a bus, or an underground choo choo, or even wide sidewalks on Connecticut Ave.

If I live on a part of CT Ave that doesn't have a metro station and am going to a part of connecticut ave that doesn't have a metro station, then metro doesn't really help, now does it? and the Bus service on CT Ave ia freaking joke.