Will the WTU illegally strike? Not return on 2/1

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

What do mice have to do with the pandemic? Mice and rats are gross — and are all over DC, in homes and business. When they crop up, you deal with them.

But saying we need to worry about mice when trying to reopen after Covid closure is exactly what moving the goalposts means.

Mice moved in when people moved out. It’s worse than you think. Not saying we shouldn’t open because of rodent problems I’m suggesting a visit. Get a pulse. Maybe the demands aren’t unreasonable. Warm water, windows that open, beth rooms that get cleaned, heat!

My school had all of those things. My school is not majority white. My school is not in Ward 3. WTU still doesn’t want my school to open. Most teachers still don’t want to come back.

But it’s not about just your kid and your school.

And how do you know? Last year most of the parents thought our school was passable since it was recently renovated and walk right on passed the raw sewage leak every day when they pick their children up.

So true. I used to work at one of the schools on cap hill. Our classroom literally had water leaking from the ceiling, enough to make constant mold and a puddle. It took them 3 years to fix ours, and it was only fixed because we told parents...they didn't notice on their own. We also had rats the size of a small cat, they would scurry out during nap time and several children were scared to fall asleep because of that. This is a very popular school, yet the majority of parents don't know the building issues because staff member are literally told to keep quiet.

Plenty of us would prefer DC address some of those issues, but are appalled that the WTU is hijacking the current crisis with them. And saying the mice moved in because the people moved out without acknowledging that it’s the WTU that kept the people out since August is disingenuous

I'd like to believe that, except this has been part of the WTU's agenda for years and this forum has never once mentioned it to this extent until now. The problems with ventilation haven't been in the spotlight until NOW. My school has a GAS LEAK and we had to evacuate 4x in a week and DCPS still wouldn't fix it!

So no, I think that unfortunately this time as been way more successful than others because you guys (a general you) did not care before because it wasn't your school..

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Anonymous wrote:Nasty non-low SES parents, I'm glad you don't care about mice, HVAC issues, broken windows, no soap, no toilet paper, a non-working heater, broken lights, etc. in some of our non-NW schools.

Thank you for showing our low SES Black and Brown families that you never cared about them but instead want to talk about how teachers as a collective do not want to do their jobs.

Perhaps if your heads weren't so far up your a**** you'd see that the issues schools have do relate to covid. I haven't seen a grocery store, restaurant, or hospital open with these issues.

Teachers are working, yes I do see even if it's more work it's a lesser quality. I 100% agree, but again it's a pandemic. You can compare to other nations all you want. I have family in Australia and Japan, the protocols were very different than here. I'm sorry no one here seems to want to let that be the truth.

Even though you may hate it some teachers have also discovered their worth through this pandemic, that public school teachers are actually ESSENTIAL to society. They want to be treated as such and that's still not happening. I definitely think that's part of the issue.

Someday, hopefully someone will ask why DCPS elected to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in renovating DC high schools in a "if they build it they will come" campaign with the end result of under enrolled, low performing schools instead of investing all that hundreds of millions of dollars in elementary schools to fix all the problems that still exist today. Or the "Alice Deal for All" bullshit political campaign.

The problem starts at the top with the people making the decisions how the money is spent. Hold them accountable.

Who cares right now? No one has school. Do you not realize that using the pandemic to address legitimate structural inequities turn people off to you and your very valid causes? Refusing to teach in person denies kids an adequate education. It’s that simple. When you say you want to address mice or prior expenditures all I can think is: you’re using kids as political pawns and you don’t even care. My school can’t even recruit people to do teacher appreciation activities at this point. People are so fed up. Teachers are so massively misjudging this. (And our school is not in Ward 3 and not majority white.)

I'm on your side. I am part of the 7% that volunteered to go back and understand how much kids needs to be in school. I have been in person since mid-December. I am tired of the racial division and using kids as pawns. The only point I was trying to get across that DCPS has created this mess and perpetuates the racial division in this city through bad public policy.

Not sure why you're pandering, you want a medal for going back in person? You're not special, in fact I'm pretty sure you were just thinking of your Impact score.

Since you asked, yes I would like a gold medal and a perfect Impact score. Thanks.

My kid’s teacher is coming back against her will. My kid had an in person spot because of his low end IEP. I would be happy to give her literally anything she wants if she actually shows up on Monday. Also my kid has learned to read since the year started (she has made some contribution to that; not a ton, but the contribution she did make she went above and beyond to make), so her IMPACT score on my kid will be through the roof. I hope that helps.

Impact has nothing to do with that. It's based on one single lesson.
Also it's a little weird that you know it's against her will. I'm also going back (sped teacher) but my families have no idea if it is or isn't against my will and I have no intention of telling them... I just want them to know it's not going to change how I treat them or their child.

The entire ECE faculty at our school met with parents to ask us to turn down seats. I think it actually backfired because parents were so offended. I am sympathetic to some of the particulars, but it was so beyond inappropriate. So, yeah, I know how my kid’s teacher — who I actually very much like and respect — feels.

so inappropriate! I would have been livid.

I am still so mad at the teachers for refusing to return in Nov that I’m not sure I trust them now in person. At least at home I know what’s going on.

By all means, keep your kid home do you can monitor.

What exactly do you think these terrible teachers will be doing to your child in the school building?

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Er, kids are not “clients.” Educating them is not optional for society, any more than leaving the sick and infirm without care.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Er, kids are not “clients.” Educating them is not optional for society, any more than leaving the sick and infirm without care.

Kids are indeed clients, teachers are providing a service. And if you think a nursing home or hospital isn't a job with clients you would be incorrect.

Education is indeed a necessary service, one that can be provided in home, privately , or publicly - just like hospice care.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

Not this again. The mayor is Black.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

So is the WTU exploiting the concerns of Black and brown families?

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

Not this again. The mayor is Black.

Sometime in the past day or so they were tossing the chancellor (and Obama!! for some reason I didn’t understand) out for not being all black. Crazy

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

DP. If your kids will never catch up with their learning, as is likely for many Black and Brown kids, I'd say that qualifies as losing the war.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

I actually this has more to do with economics than race. Our school has a lot of UMC AAs and they are by and large returning at the same rates as whites. My kids PK3 class is close to 50/50 and then returning kids are nearly exactly proportionate (but the total is tiny because it’s just one cohort). But in the two grades where everyone who wants to gets to come back, we have 60 & 75% acceptance with no racial distortion.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

every job with a code of professional ethics, dumb*ss. but thanks for repeatedly demonstrating that you’re not to be trusted.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Er, kids are not “clients.” Educating them is not optional for society, any more than leaving the sick and infirm without care.

Kids are indeed clients, teachers are providing a service. And if you think a nursing home or hospital isn't a job with clients you would be incorrect.

Education is indeed a necessary service, one that can be provided in home, privately , or publicly - just like hospice care.

oh ffs. fine then - we, the clients, refuse your offer of providing substandard services in a location not of our chosing. therefore, you are fired, effective immediately.