What do people consider the most prestigious college in the Midwest?

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Anonymous wrote:Most prestigious midwestern college is Carleton. Most prestigious midwestern university is University of Chicago.

Funny. I am from MN and never considered Carleton as the most prestigious midwestern college.

But did you consider it “Yale level”?

Better than Yale in terms of education, small classes, access to profs who are student focused, close-knit community, research opportunities. But the "most prestigious midwestern college"? No. I felt there are just as good, even better, liberal arts colleges in the midwestern states.

Most prestigious by every objective metric. Check it out.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

But it is "better" than Michigan. Why would people think otherwise?

US News Ranking:
ND #18
Michigan #28

Not even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

But it is "better" than Michigan. Why would people think otherwise?

US News Ranking:
ND #18
Michigan #28

Not even close.

NP - There are certain metrics used by USNWR that make it nearly impossible for public universities to rank very high. Even Berkeley, which is an amazing school, only ranks 21st. Oddly, USNWR's own global rankings have Berkeley at 4 in the world and Michigan at 17 in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

uhh, does Notre Dame not? Their endowment is larger than Michigan's. On a per-student basis, it's MUCH higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

Apples and oranges. Both are great places but different. Lose the chip. Does it really matter that much to you what people say on an anonymous board? It doesn't hurt Michigan's reputation.

-- Notre Dame Parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

Apples and oranges. Both are great places but different. Lose the chip. Does it really matter that much to you what people say on an anonymous board? It doesn't hurt Michigan's reputation.

-- Notre Dame Parent

Michican, as good as it is, is just a good public school. Good for them. They are something which all public unis can aspire to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

Apples and oranges. Both are great places but different. Lose the chip. Does it really matter that much to you what people say on an anonymous board? It doesn't hurt Michigan's reputation.

-- Notre Dame Parent

Michican, as good as it is, is just a good public school. Good for them. They are something which all public unis can aspire to be.

Norte Dame, as good as it is, will always just be the Harvard for Catholics. But good for them. They are something for religiously affiliated school to aspire to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

Apples and oranges. Both are great places but different. Lose the chip. Does it really matter that much to you what people say on an anonymous board? It doesn't hurt Michigan's reputation.

-- Notre Dame Parent

Michican, as good as it is, is just a good public school. Good for them. They are something which all public unis can aspire to be.

Norte Dame, as good as it is, will always just be the Harvard for Catholics. But good for them. They are something for religiously affiliated school to aspire to be.

Notre Dame is not aspiring to be Harvard, that is silly. Been to both campuses and they are completely different in terms of geography, structure and culture.

Here is a thought: Any kid who goes to Michigan, Notre Dame or UChicago is likely an exceptional student. What they make of their college education is what matters, not the "perceived" ranking.


----A Notre Dame parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

But it is "better" than Michigan. Why would people think otherwise?

US News Ranking:
ND #18
Michigan #28

Not even close.

In addition to the idiosyncrasies and subjective aspects of USNWR ranking, in a world of 3,000 colleges, #18 and #28 are, in fact, close.

Both top-notch. As for which is "better" it depends on the individual student or program. To claim otherwise defeats the value of the rankings themselves, and sounds ignorant.

That's why there is so much relative movement between peers from year to year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most prestigious midwestern college is Carleton. Most prestigious midwestern university is University of Chicago.

Funny. I am from MN and never considered Carleton as the most prestigious midwestern college.

But did you consider it “Yale level”?

Better than Yale in terms of education, small classes, access to profs who are student focused, close-knit community, research opportunities. But the "most prestigious midwestern college"? No. I felt there are just as good, even better, liberal arts colleges in the midwestern states.

Most prestigious by every objective metric. Check it out.

Agree. Haven't heard a bad thing about it (except that it's cold in winter).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

Apples and oranges. Both are great places but different. Lose the chip. Does it really matter that much to you what people say on an anonymous board? It doesn't hurt Michigan's reputation.

-- Notre Dame Parent

Michican, as good as it is, is just a good public school. Good for them. They are something which all public unis can aspire to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely sick of people considering Notre Dame better than Michigan. Michigan has enormous resources along with a high endowment.

But it is "better" than Michigan. Why would people think otherwise?

US News Ranking:
ND #18
Michigan #28

Not even close.

In addition to the idiosyncrasies and subjective aspects of USNWR ranking, in a world of 3,000 colleges, #18 and #28 are, in fact, close.

Both top-notch. As for which is "better" it depends on the individual student or program. To claim otherwise defeats the value of the rankings themselves, and sounds ignorant.

That's why there is so much relative movement between peers from year to year.

I think this is a very good point.

[Anonymous]

Why is this thread still going?

All of the schools mentioned here are great schools. Prestige is, and always has been, in the eye of the beholder. Respectfully disagree and move on!

[Anonymous]

Notre Dame to 99.9% of the population
Chicago to <1% (basically only to people in academia)