Harvey Weinstein

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Aspiring actresses (not adoring)
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody said Paltrow lied. I just think she was rather naive and put herself in a bad situation. Lesson learned. I bet she never took a meeting alone with a strange man again.

All you people who think it's nbd to go to hotel rooms alone with a stranger are lucky your bones haven't been made into windchimes. A healthy dose of distrust and precaution would be a good thing.


You're ridiculous. Harvard Law School had its on-campus interviews in hotel rooms when I was there. You would have just skipped job interviews? I assume, in addition to being distrustful, you're also independent wealthy? No need for a job?


I think you are ridiculous to compare law school interviews with casting couch antics involving young adoring actresses and sleazy moguls like Harvey.

I'm a lawyer btw. There was nothing sleazy happening during OCIs...even those held at hotels.



Oh, so you didn't post the above? Because I didn't see a law-school exception in that comment.

Also, you are delusional if you think law firms aren't rampant with sexual harassment. You wanna see sleaze? Take a gander at some male law firm partners when they think no one is watching.
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Anonymous wrote:Just WHY did it take 8-10 years for many top name celebs to come out about this? I don't get it...this man is a vile pig and i am so sure his wife knew nothing about it. Yea right.


More like 20 years. But he was powerful and vindictive and connected and everybody wanted to please him and lets face it - above the law.
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Anonymous wrote:Just WHY did it take 8-10 years for many top name celebs to come out about this? I don't get it...this man is a vile pig and i am so sure his wife knew nothing about it. Yea right.


More like 20 years. But he was powerful and vindictive and connected and everybody wanted to please him and lets face it - above the law.

Looks like Hollywood crooks and their Politicians are all protecting each other.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody said Paltrow lied. I just think she was rather naive and put herself in a bad situation. Lesson learned. I bet she never took a meeting alone with a strange man again.

All you people who think it's nbd to go to hotel rooms alone with a stranger are lucky your bones haven't been made into windchimes. A healthy dose of distrust and precaution would be a good thing.


You're ridiculous. Harvard Law School had its on-campus interviews in hotel rooms when I was there. You would have just skipped job interviews? I assume, in addition to being distrustful, you're also independent wealthy? No need for a job?


I think you are ridiculous to compare law school interviews with casting couch antics involving young adoring actresses and sleazy moguls like Harvey.

I'm a lawyer btw. There was nothing sleazy happening during OCIs...even those held at hotels.



I think the point is, when you normalize having interviews in a hotel room with a bed, you shouldn't be surprised when some small percentage of the general population takes advantage of that norm to perpetrate abuse. Frankly, if the normal professional expecatation is legitimate career opportunities are only to be proffered in professional offices with professional staff around, we'd all be better off.

And, please try to listen to what women are saying in this thread. We are saying doing interviews in a room with a bed makes us uncomfortable. You dismiss that as irrational, but for many of us it is a level of hyper-awareness of the circumstances under which we are more vulnerable - a hyper awareness that comes from the knowledge that, despite your statement that "nothing" happens, these things do indeed happen. Many of us have been sexually harrassed in job interviews or internships or on the job when and where we never imagined it would happen. I was sexually harrassed at a business dinner at a colleague's home while his wife and kids were there. Never did I imagine that could happen! I was sexually touched by my mentor associate in front of other law firm partners in plain view at a summer associate event. There is nowhere it doesn't happen.

When you dismiss us when we say we're not comfortable you are part of the problem - listen to that tape of the Italian model/actress - how many times did she say, "No, I don't want to do that; I'm not comfortable."?

You are making the same argumeny Harvey Weinstein did - "oh, stop whining, nothing is going to happen, just do it any way even if it makes you uncomfortable." And if you don't want to, then you will pay a career cost.
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Anonymous wrote:He's fired and many more women coming forward. The men that have stood by and let this greedy, sex abuser thrive all these years should feel shame.


There were plenty of women too. They should be doubly ashamed.


Anjelilina Jolie said he harassed her and she tried warning other women, but they ignored her.


Honestly, Angelina Jolie's behaviour back in the day when this would have happened would have made me disbelieve/disregard her claims too- the blood with Billy Bob, the making out with her brother, etc. Plus, she wasn't some aspiring starlet from parents who waited at a WalMart in Arkansas- she had Hollywood power and connections behind her in her family. If she was going to tell someone, why the heck wouldn't she have told them - who might at least have had the power to do something about it.



You contradict yourself. First you said you wouldn't have believed her. Then you state why didn't she tell someone. She did tell someone. She told any female who would listen. Apparently, they took your first advice and didn't believe her. She also said she chose to never not work with him again. I guess that was her way of dealing with it.


No, I didn't contradict myself, you misunderstood. I said that if I was one of the actresses AngelIna "warned" my thought process would have been: hmm, her behaviour indicates that she is unstable. Second, why is she telling ME this when she could be telling someone with the power to do something about it when she has access to such people in her own family. These two factors combined would have made me disbelieve her, and think that it was a false allegation.

Now, to be clear I don't think they are all false allegations - clearly he has harassed and assaulted multiple women, but the Angelina piece raises red flags to me. Why would she have done the bare minimum (telling other women) if it was true, rather than telling people who actually might have been able to take action, when she had access to such people. Either do nothing, or do something meaningful if you're in a position to do so, which many of the other women weren't. Don't do something half-assed and then say "but I tried" when it all comes out later.
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That's why the FBI needs to be investigating the industry, not only one of the rapists.
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Anonymous wrote:That's why the FBI needs to be investigating the industry, not only one of the rapists.


Sounds good to me. What's the legal hook for an industry-wide investigation?
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Anonymous wrote:That's why the FBI needs to be investigating the industry, not only one of the rapists.


Sounds good to me. What's the legal hook for an industry-wide investigation?

God only knows how many Hollywood elites covered for him, and threatened anyone who might expose him to the public. He obviously paid off politicians to squelch any criminal charges.
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Anonymous wrote:That's why the FBI needs to be investigating the industry, not only one of the rapists.


Sounds good to me. What's the legal hook for an industry-wide investigation?

God only knows how many Hollywood elites covered for him, and threatened anyone who might expose him to the public. He obviously paid off politicians to squelch any criminal charges.

...Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance, for example.
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Anonymous wrote:You all can't see this piling on ole Harvey is a smokescreen away from Hollywood & music industry's rampant pedophilia problem? Come on, wake up.


+1


No it's a step towards blowing that story up to. A smokescreen... please ignore all the raped women... they are just a smokescreen.


FFS


NP here and no it's not a step towards anything. Every few years the industry throws us a bone (Bill Cosby, now Harvey Weinstein) but the media will never reveal how deep this all runs.
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Anonymous wrote:You all can't see this piling on ole Harvey is a smokescreen away from Hollywood & music industry's rampant pedophilia problem? Come on, wake up.


+1


No it's a step towards blowing that story up to. A smokescreen... please ignore all the raped women... they are just a smokescreen.


FFS


NP here and no it's not a step towards anything. Every few years the industry throws us a bone (Bill Cosby, now Harvey Weinstein) but the media will never reveal how deep this all runs.

...until the industry gets a massive FBI investigation.
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Anonymous wrote:You all can't see this piling on ole Harvey is a smokescreen away from Hollywood & music industry's rampant pedophilia problem? Come on, wake up.


+1


No it's a step towards blowing that story up to. A smokescreen... please ignore all the raped women... they are just a smokescreen.


FFS


NP here and no it's not a step towards anything. Every few years the industry throws us a bone (Bill Cosby, now Harvey Weinstein) but the media will never reveal how deep this all runs.

...until the industry gets a massive FBI investigation.


If I were Trump, I would suggest it should be an FBI priority. That and the Scientology scandal. Those would be two easy PR victories for him.
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Anonymous wrote:Why did these women agree to meet with him in his hotel room? Who does that?


CAN YOU NOT BLAME VICTIMS


I'm not blaming the victims...what Harvey did was wrong.

But what respectable woman takes a meeting in a man's hotel room? Befuddling. Meet in an office. Meet in a restaurant.


You’ve got to be kidding me.


No, I'm not. No respectable woman would take a meeting in a man's hotel room. It puts him in a position of power. Smart women select the location and take control.


1. He was a huge deal. There is no way these aspiring actresses could set the location.
2. I have a friend who works in the entertainment industry and is is very common practice to meet outside of the office in all sorts of places.
3. Did you know a lot official on campus recruiting interviews actually take place in hotel rooms? I guess if women at top business and law schools participate in that it's their fault if something happens?


+1 all my law firm interviews were conducted in hotel rooms. Also if you truly think "Smart women select the location and take control" was a reasonable thing to say about this situation, you are not an intelligent person. Do you not understand the position of power and influence he was in? He called ALL the shots in terms of when / where / of such a meeting occurred. As an unknown aspiring 22 year old actress...you were "lucky" to even get a meeting with him, you would have been laughed (or maybe yelled...) out of town if you tried to come in and strongarm the logistics. How do you not get that?

Furthermore, if you read up it's pretty well-documented that he coerced them to his hotel room - he'd set up a meeting in the lobby or bar, then "forget" the script up there. He'd have the woman arrive at the hotel and the front desk would tell her last minute that actually, she needed to go up to his room to meet him. He'd have her invited to an industry party, and she'd arrive all dressed up and be led to...an empty hotel room. He was conniving and relentless and manipulative and knew exactly what he was doing.


Any actress who was actually being considered for a legit role would have had her agent with her. All of these encounters were with aspiring actresses at the time...and I suppose they were desperate. This is classic casting couch behavior.

If he really wanted to meet with Suzy Aspring Actress about a legit role, he would have his male assistant call her agent. Picking her up in a club or at an industry party and inviting her back to his hotel? Red flag. Hopping in a limo with a bunch of men? Red flag.

"Call my agent."



Excuse me, are you an aspiring actress who can actually comment on this subject? You're delusional if you think an agent goes with a client to EVERY meeting or audition they have.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody said Paltrow lied. I just think she was rather naive and put herself in a bad situation. Lesson learned. I bet she never took a meeting alone with a strange man again.

All you people who think it's nbd to go to hotel rooms alone with a stranger are lucky your bones haven't been made into windchimes. A healthy dose of distrust and precaution would be a good thing.


You're clearly not in an industry or a position where the maker of the meeting matters. When you are starting out and in a position where a HUGE bigwig can make or break your career, you would jump at the chance to have the meeting. It's a risk you'd have to take. Could literally mean the difference between success and riches or being a poor cashier the rest of your life.
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