Why are HRCS so popular? Test scores stink.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

I don't think Golnar said this - perhaps that poster misunderstood (as the IB and MYP are in direct competition with each other).

But who knows - also, can you write less? Your posts are so wordy with attempted humor, it's hard to get the point of what you are saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

That is not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

That is not true.

NP. Yes, it is. It wouldn't be a huge deal, but they'd have to amend the charter. That does get approved.

[Anonymous]

CMI parent here. What new lab? What IB program? What academic rigor?

CMI uses an IPC program. I know of a science room that is being used as a main 6th grade room, but I would hardly call it a science lab. Golnar said that she was expanding the MS because CMI families in older grades approached her and said that their children need CMI for MS. I read between the lines that it meant that she was creating specifically to offer a non-academic MS for those students who needed a CMI type of place for MS.

ES follows an inclusionary model but the MS is tailored For SN students. As the parent of a SN child, I understand that creating something that works for my child with lots of stability, flexibility, and support, but few transitions (no class changes), low academic expectations, and no new challenges means that it's a terrible fit for college-bound students. I hope CMI MS will have an inclusionary model for MS, too, but it will need significant more finances to attract potential students (or keep current ones). It would need a science lab (not a regularly used 6th grade classroom that just uses tall tables and stools). It would help if our $300,000 could be re-directed towards actual academics instead of our aesthetically pleasing playground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

That is not true.

NP. Yes, it is. It wouldn't be a huge deal, but they'd have to amend the charter. That does get approved.

Another NP. I heard that current charters' amendments almost always get approved so my guess is no big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CMI parent here. What new lab? What IB program? What academic rigor?

CMI uses an IPC program. I know of a science room that is being used as a main 6th grade room, but I would hardly call it a science lab. Golnar said that she was expanding the MS because CMI families in older grades approached her and said that their children need CMI for MS. I read between the lines that it meant that she was creating specifically to offer a non-academic MS for those students who needed a CMI type of place for MS.

ES follows an inclusionary model but the MS is tailored For SN students. As the parent of a SN child, I understand that creating something that works for my child with lots of stability, flexibility, and support, but few transitions (no class changes), low academic expectations, and no new challenges means that it's a terrible fit for college-bound students. I hope CMI MS will have an inclusionary model for MS, too, but it will need significant more finances to attract potential students (or keep current ones). It would need a science lab (not a regularly used 6th grade classroom that just uses tall tables and stools). It would help if our $300,000 could be re-directed towards actual academics instead of our aesthetically pleasing playground.

+100 $300k playground and no real lab?! That tells me what the school is prioritizing. Why not get a kaboom playground and call it a day? $300k?? That's crazy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

I don't think Golnar said this - perhaps that poster misunderstood (as the IB and MYP are in direct competition with each other).

But who knows - also, can you write less? Your posts are so wordy with attempted humor, it's hard to get the point of what you are saying.

No, they are not. MYP (Middle Years Program) is the middle school section of IB (International Baccalaureate).

Perhaps if you wrote more with attempted intelligence it would be easier to get at the point of what you are attempting to say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

That is not true.

NP. Yes, it is. It wouldn't be a huge deal, but they'd have to amend the charter. That does get approved.

Another NP. I heard that current charters' amendments almost always get approved so my guess is no big deal.

Are you serious? You think a curriculum redesign is no big deal? What do you do and what if I came in and re-did your objectives and told you to re-map your processes to goals? And what if I did that while you're doing your actual job? Would that be no big deal or do you even understand what that means?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

I don't think Golnar said this - perhaps that poster misunderstood (as the IB and MYP are in direct competition with each other).

But who knows - also, can you write less? Your posts are so wordy with attempted humor, it's hard to get the point of what you are saying.

No, they are not. MYP (Middle Years Program) is the middle school section of IB (International Baccalaureate).

Perhaps if you wrote more with attempted intelligence it would be easier to get at the point of what you are attempting to say?

Don't worry. "Thinks she is clever" PPP is clueless. MYP = IB, but PPP is too busy being arrogant to actually learn something.

[Anonymous]

The HOS probably said that they would use the "International Middle Years Curriculum", which is the next step in the curriculum used for PK-5 at CMI.

Despite the similar name it is not the same as the IB MYP (middle years program).

In DC Washington Global says they use the IMY curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

That is not true.

NP. Yes, it is. It wouldn't be a huge deal, but they'd have to amend the charter. That does get approved.

Another NP. I heard that current charters' amendments almost always get approved so my guess is no big deal.

Are you serious? You think a curriculum redesign is no big deal? What do you do and what if I came in and re-did your objectives and told you to re-map your processes to goals? And what if I did that while you're doing your actual job? Would that be no big deal or do you even understand what that means?

Sorry, "Another NP" back again. The entire MS sounds like a disorganized mess and numeros 1-7 sound like a big deal. But the prior NP pointing out that they'd have to amend the charter sounds like the least of the concerns -- charters are easily amended -- at least that's what I heard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

I don't think Golnar said this - perhaps that poster misunderstood (as the IB and MYP are in direct competition with each other).

But who knows - also, can you write less? Your posts are so wordy with attempted humor, it's hard to get the point of what you are saying.

No, they are not. MYP (Middle Years Program) is the middle school section of IB (International Baccalaureate).

Perhaps if you wrote more with attempted intelligence it would be easier to get at the point of what you are attempting to say?

Don't worry. "Thinks she is clever" PPP is clueless. MYP = IB, but PPP is too busy being arrogant to actually learn something.

http://www.greatlearning.com/imyc/the-imyc/what-is-imyc

http://www.ibo.org/programmes/middle-years-programme/

These are two seperate and different curriculum taught internationally, but they ARE different. I can see how it can be confusing what with the similar letters and all. It's not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The HOS probably said that they would use the "International Middle Years Curriculum", which is the next step in the curriculum used for PK-5 at CMI.

Despite the similar name it is not the same as the IB MYP (middle years program).

In DC Washington Global says they use the IMY curriculum.

Correct. Both of these schools do and neither are IB schools.

See how clever it is to actually look up what you are talking about and not talk out your ass?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CMI parent here. What new lab? What IB program? What academic rigor?

CMI uses an IPC program. I know of a science room that is being used as a main 6th grade room, but I would hardly call it a science lab. Golnar said that she was expanding the MS because CMI families in older grades approached her and said that their children need CMI for MS. I read between the lines that it meant that she was creating specifically to offer a non-academic MS for those students who needed a CMI type of place for MS.

ES follows an inclusionary model but the MS is tailored For SN students. As the parent of a SN child, I understand that creating something that works for my child with lots of stability, flexibility, and support, but few transitions (no class changes), low academic expectations, and no new challenges means that it's a terrible fit for college-bound students. I hope CMI MS will have an inclusionary model for MS, too, but it will need significant more finances to attract potential students (or keep current ones). It would need a science lab (not a regularly used 6th grade classroom that just uses tall tables and stools). It would help if our $300,000 could be re-directed towards actual academics instead of our aesthetically pleasing playground.[/quote

Hey, that "science room" has Bunsen burners, microscopes and other science equipment.

And your "reading between the lines" is completely false. What she meant, and what she has said many times", is that CMI wanted its elementary students to continue in a strong academic environment, which as we all know is lacking at many DC MS.

Why would you circulate erroneous information about your child's school??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who have been confused about the mission of the CMI
MS. I attended some of the MS briefing sessions as an CMI parent and Golnar talked
about academic rigor and even said she was considering establishing an IB program
for the MS.

I would not place much faith in this. It's like saying I watched "The Martian" and now I'm considering studying Astrophysics and Botany.

1. IB Programs are incredibly expensive
2. They take at least 3 years for approval from the IB organization
3. That's once you get it implemented. Unless you have hired dedicated IB staff, you will need a few years for them to get up to speed
4. It is a school-wide effort which involves (expensive) specific training for all the teachers
5. It involves certification of a specific kind of curriculum, and any curricular changes have to be approved by the PCSB
6. It makes no sense (as in, it won't happen) for the MS portion of a PK-8 school to be approved as an IB school for the MYP portion if the ES portion isn't also approved as a PYP school.
7. Did I mention how expensive it is?

I like CMI, but I could use some money, so I'd like to place a bet against this happening in 6 years. If ever.

I don't think Golnar said this - perhaps that poster misunderstood (as the IB and MYP are in direct competition with each other).

But who knows - also, can you write less? Your posts are so wordy with attempted humor, it's hard to get the point of what you are saying.

No, they are not. MYP (Middle Years Program) is the middle school section of IB (International Baccalaureate).

Perhaps if you wrote more with attempted intelligence it would be easier to get at the point of what you are attempting to say?

Don't worry. "Thinks she is clever" PPP is clueless. MYP = IB, but PPP is too busy being arrogant to actually learn something.

http://www.greatlearning.com/imyc/the-imyc/what-is-imyc

http://www.ibo.org/programmes/middle-years-programme/

These are two seperate and different curriculum taught internationally, but they ARE different. I can see how it can be confusing what with the similar letters and all. It's not.

Please do not confuse the two. The IB program is actually a good curriculum while the international middle years program is a knockoff.