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That is hearsay. It has not been established as a fact that the mother said this. Someone on set reported that she said something similar to that. We do not know if that was indeed said though. |
| It’ll be interesting to see what happens in court. |
Yes. Under oath, etc. That's what I'll wait for. |
| His wife really seems to have his back. |
If I believed my husband was innocent, I would too. |
If the reports posted upthread are true, then that is exactly what happened. Of course none of us know anything for sure which is why I’ll be interested to see what comes out at the trial, what is verified, and what was fabricated. Why are you so quick to dismiss anything that contradicts the allegations? |
| I said this 20 pages ago, but I remain confused as to why people think that a history of being sketchy with (or perhaps worse, depending on what characterization is correct) post-pubescent teenage girls makes it more likely he engaged in full on pedophilia with boys. |
+1 There’s probably research on pedophiles staying in a lane. |
Logic and reason left the chat a while back. Lol |
I think it has been debunked that it’s as cut and dried as all of them stick to a certain age/sex etc., just like it used to be bedrock belief that serial killers never stop, but now we know that’s not true. IDK if Busfield is guilty of the current charges, but the long history including the payout is enough for me to conclude that he’s a perpetrator. |
And similarly, why would committing mail and wire fraud make it more likely that someone would then coach their kids to lie about unwanted touching? |
Were the boys lying the first time when they said it didn't happen or the 2nd time when they said it actually did? What should people believe if they want to believe children? |
See, it’s not that I think pedophiles always stay in their lane. It’s possible someone who is sketchy with post-pubescent teenage girls is also a pedophile. But more likely? That they are not only a true pedophile but a same sex pedophile? That seems unlikely. And that’s what people are claiming… that he has a history of sexual misconduct that makes this more likely. Statistically, that seems unlikely to me. On the other hand, people who are willing to lie and victimize people for money? Yup, more likely to be willing to lie and victimize people for money. That completely tracks for me. |
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Hi, former prosecutor of child sex crimes with specialized training and experience here again, catching up with the conversation and to share some thoughts on comments I’ve read.
First let’s start by acknowledging that there are no hard and fast rules in life - everything is grey. That said we do have a body of knowledge about offenders against children and a number of generalizations which tend to hold true. Something many lay folks don’t understand is that not all offenders against children are pedophiles. Pedophilia is a paraphilia and as such it has certain characteristics primary of which is that the pedophile has primary attraction to prepubescent children and in some cases sole attraction to children such that they don’t engage in any other sexual activity. Some pedophiles never act on their attraction and remain celibate to avoid confrontation with acting out the paraphilia and potentially encountering legal consequences and out of concern (yes, it’s true) for harming children. A larger number of predators who offend against children are what we call opportunistic sexual predators - they assault children not because they have any particular interest in children but because they have sexual impulses they wish to fulfill and children are easier to groom and victimize than adults. Adults will often fight back and are more likely to report assaults to law enforcement whilst children are very unlikely to do either. When a predator is opportunistic it is less likely they will have a specific age range or gender they are compelled to offend against. With regard to the issue of settlements to resolve accusations of sexual abuse; I think it is dangerous to assume settlements are a sign of culpability. We all know that a great many defendants in criminal cases enter into plea agreements while maintaining innocence because the plea agreement preserves some portion of their life with potential to be free or guarantee to be free rather than standing on principle and facing the possibility of a certain life in prison. We all know that innocent people get wrongfully convicted because hundreds of them have been exonerated and released from prison in recent decades including 200+ from death row. A settlement on allegations that could be totally destructive of reputation and career - and potentially open one to criminal charges- is a way to resolve the risk with the least harm and does not necessarily mean the party seeking NDA and paying out is actually guilty. Finally with regard to false allegations of child sex abuse. They are rare, but they do occur. The circumstances surrounding most such cases include highly volatile/contentious custody cases, cases where there is financial or retributive motive, and cases involving mental illness/disordered personality re: the victim. Children are suggestible and the younger they are the more suggestible they are. This is why we spent years developing best practices in the forensic interviewing of children by individuals who are specifically trained in this process and in settings designed to protect against suggestive behavior by interviewers and guardians alike. Some of you may be old enough to recall the famous California case in the 80s where a family of daycare providers were prosecuted for systemic sexual abuse and torture of dozens of children, all of which later proved to be untrue (juries refused to convict) and which proved to be the fruit of suggestive questioning by parents and law enforcement agents alike. There were other cases in that same vein across the country it was the child abuse equivalent of satanic panic - some resulted in convictions and in most cases lives were ruined and it was definitely a stain on our justice system. My point being that kids can be coaxed into believing what they think their parents want to hear and that psychological reality hasn’t changed even though LEO best practices do much to guard against. I’m no big fan of Busfield but I would encourage people to allow due process to happen here. As I said before my mind is open and I wouldn’t form a strong opinion without access to the case file and the opportunity to asses the alleged victims with my own gut. |
Do you not understand that the purpose of fraud is to exact a payout? If they did coach the kids to lie, it was obviously so that they could sue TB and come away with millions in a settlement. |