How is the elimination of APs going for your DC

[Anonymous]

Hey folks, the underlying reason some DC privates eliminated APs classes was because they are desperate to show how they are different/better than public school (who score just as well, if not better than private schools). (Privates will not concede this, of course.)

It’s a really tough private school market, lots of schools competing for top students, lots of schools with empty seats. The problem will only worsen with families needing to move away due to job uncertainty in DC area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, the underlying reason some DC privates eliminated APs classes was because they are desperate to show how they are different/better than public school (who score just as well, if not better than private schools). (Privates will not concede this, of course.)

It’s a really tough private school market, lots of schools competing for top students, lots of schools with empty seats. The problem will only worsen with families needing to move away due to job uncertainty in DC area.

Lol there are not lots of empty seats at top schools. There are still far more qualified students applying than these schools have space for.

[Anonymous]

Different children are different. There is not a single best answer. Choose whichever is best for your DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, the underlying reason some DC privates eliminated APs classes was because they are desperate to show how they are different/better than public school (who score just as well, if not better than private schools). (Privates will not concede this, of course.)

It’s a really tough private school market, lots of schools competing for top students, lots of schools with empty seats. The problem will only worsen with families needing to move away due to job uncertainty in DC area.

The private school market is thriving and the acceptance rate at our private school is so low.

AP classes are just not impressive and available at your local concrete public school diploma factory.

If I wanted my kid to take a dozen or two of AP classes, I already know where to drop them off.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hey folks, the underlying reason some DC privates eliminated APs classes was because they are desperate to show how they are different/better than public school (who score just as well, if not better than private schools). (Privates will not concede this, of course.)

It’s a really tough private school market, lots of schools competing for top students, lots of schools with empty seats. The problem will only worsen with families needing to move away due to job uncertainty in DC area.

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Lol there are not lots of empty seats at top schools. There are still far more qualified students applying than these schools have space for. [/quote]
That's what they want you to believe. Enrollment management consultants are all over DC for a reason

[Anonymous]

AP classes are like a McDonalds happy meal. They even throw in a little toy, college credit. However, if you really care you can do much better for your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AP classes are like a McDonalds happy meal. They even throw in a little toy, college credit. However, if you really care you can do much better for your kids.

I’ll give you the fact that AP classes have shortcomings, but let’s be honest here, it’s not like private classes are that much better.

Lower division major classes are a commodity, Calculus 1 for example is pretty much the same at many universities, they’ll use the same textbooks.

In what way is private school calculus better than the AP or community college version? It’s not, if anything the community college class is the most rigorous among them.

There are other legitimate reasons to go to a private school, but rigor of classes over AP is not one of them.

College credit and placement is definitely nice to have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, the underlying reason some DC privates eliminated APs classes was because they are desperate to show how they are different/better than public school (who score just as well, if not better than private schools). (Privates will not concede this, of course.)

It’s a really tough private school market, lots of schools competing for top students, lots of schools with empty seats. The problem will only worsen with families needing to move away due to job uncertainty in DC area.

The private school market is thriving and the acceptance rate at our private school is so low.

AP classes are just not impressive and available at your local concrete public school diploma factory.

If I wanted my kid to take a dozen or two of AP classes, I already know where to drop them off.

Incorrect. It is well known within the private school community (nationally) that DC/MD/VA has more private schools seats than kids to take them. Don’t know why, but that’s the case. And the situation will likely be worse this year and next, with families fleeing the area due to job instability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP classes are like a McDonalds happy meal. They even throw in a little toy, college credit. However, if you really care you can do much better for your kids.

I’ll give you the fact that AP classes have shortcomings, but let’s be honest here, it’s not like private classes are that much better.

Lower division major classes are a commodity, Calculus 1 for example is pretty much the same at many universities, they’ll use the same textbooks.

In what way is private school calculus better than the AP or community college version? It’s not, if anything the community college class is the most rigorous among them.

There are other legitimate reasons to go to a private school, but rigor of classes over AP is not one of them.

College credit and placement is definitely nice to have.

Rigor of coursework is one of the top reasons to choose private schools.

The grade inflation at public schools has rendered their grades meaningless and an unweighted 4.0 GPA is the norm.

Being graded beyond multiple choice exams, such as meaningful regular feedback on writing, or complex mathematics problem solving, is a good example of what a huge difference there is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, the underlying reason some DC privates eliminated APs classes was because they are desperate to show how they are different/better than public school (who score just as well, if not better than private schools). (Privates will not concede this, of course.)

It’s a really tough private school market, lots of schools competing for top students, lots of schools with empty seats. The problem will only worsen with families needing to move away due to job uncertainty in DC area.

The private school market is thriving and the acceptance rate at our private school is so low.

AP classes are just not impressive and available at your local concrete public school diploma factory.

If I wanted my kid to take a dozen or two of AP classes, I already know where to drop them off.

Incorrect. It is well known within the private school community (nationally) that DC/MD/VA has more private schools seats than kids to take them. Don’t know why, but that’s the case. And the situation will likely be worse this year and next, with families fleeing the area due to job instability.

Maybe if you are discussing low performing religious schools or something.

The top privates are doing better than ever though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, the underlying reason some DC privates eliminated APs classes was because they are desperate to show how they are different/better than public school (who score just as well, if not better than private schools). (Privates will not concede this, of course.)

It’s a really tough private school market, lots of schools competing for top students, lots of schools with empty seats. The problem will only worsen with families needing to move away due to job uncertainty in DC area.

The private school market is thriving and the acceptance rate at our private school is so low.

AP classes are just not impressive and available at your local concrete public school diploma factory.

If I wanted my kid to take a dozen or two of AP classes, I already know where to drop them off.

Incorrect. It is well known within the private school community (nationally) that DC/MD/VA has more private schools seats than kids to take them. Don’t know why, but that’s the case. And the situation will likely be worse this year and next, with families fleeing the area due to job instability.

Maybe if you are discussing low performing religious schools or something.

The top privates are doing better than ever though.

This is a common fantasy among the small crowd who need to hate DC area privates 24/7 for whatever bizarre ideological reasons they have.

Anyone who searches "waitlist" on DCUM will find many, many references to how the selective privates are actually doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP classes are like a McDonalds happy meal. They even throw in a little toy, college credit. However, if you really care you can do much better for your kids.

I’ll give you the fact that AP classes have shortcomings, but let’s be honest here, it’s not like private classes are that much better.

Lower division major classes are a commodity, Calculus 1 for example is pretty much the same at many universities, they’ll use the same textbooks.

In what way is private school calculus better than the AP or community college version? It’s not, if anything the community college class is the most rigorous among them.

There are other legitimate reasons to go to a private school, but rigor of classes over AP is not one of them.

College credit and placement is definitely nice to have.

Rigor of coursework is one of the top reasons to choose private schools.

The grade inflation at public schools has rendered their grades meaningless and an unweighted 4.0 GPA is the norm.

Being graded beyond multiple choice exams, such as meaningful regular feedback on writing, or complex mathematics problem solving, is a good example of what a huge difference there is.

The reason for multiple choices are testing a large number of concepts going through the entire curriculum . It’s done not only for AP but also professional testing, MCAT, LSAT, GRE. It’s not like the five teachers at the math department at some high school figured out how to design a test better than the staff at a billion dollar company.

Let’s be real with complex mathematics problem solving. Give some specifics if you have. AP
Exams are well thought out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP classes are like a McDonalds happy meal. They even throw in a little toy, college credit. However, if you really care you can do much better for your kids.

I’ll give you the fact that AP classes have shortcomings, but let’s be honest here, it’s not like private classes are that much better.

Lower division major classes are a commodity, Calculus 1 for example is pretty much the same at many universities, they’ll use the same textbooks.

In what way is private school calculus better than the AP or community college version? It’s not, if anything the community college class is the most rigorous among them.

There are other legitimate reasons to go to a private school, but rigor of classes over AP is not one of them.

College credit and placement is definitely nice to have.

Rigor of coursework is one of the top reasons to choose private schools.

The grade inflation at public schools has rendered their grades meaningless and an unweighted 4.0 GPA is the norm.

Being graded beyond multiple choice exams, such as meaningful regular feedback on writing, or complex mathematics problem solving, is a good example of what a huge difference there is.

The reason for multiple choices are testing a large number of concepts going through the entire curriculum . It’s done not only for AP but also professional testing, MCAT, LSAT, GRE. It’s not like the five teachers at the math department at some high school figured out how to design a test better than the staff at a billion dollar company.

Let’s be real with complex mathematics problem solving. Give some specifics if you have. AP
Exams are well thought out.

AP exams are a joke. You can get a 5 and still be completely unprepared for the college class it was supposed to overlap with.

AP wants to sell their program to the largest audience possible, to maximize profits. Their standards are extremely low.

Comparing it to MCAT or LSAT makes no sense. Those have much harder grading that actually separates students, like the SAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP classes are like a McDonalds happy meal. They even throw in a little toy, college credit. However, if you really care you can do much better for your kids.

I’ll give you the fact that AP classes have shortcomings, but let’s be honest here, it’s not like private classes are that much better.

Lower division major classes are a commodity, Calculus 1 for example is pretty much the same at many universities, they’ll use the same textbooks.

In what way is private school calculus better than the AP or community college version? It’s not, if anything the community college class is the most rigorous among them.

There are other legitimate reasons to go to a private school, but rigor of classes over AP is not one of them.

College credit and placement is definitely nice to have.

Rigor of coursework is one of the top reasons to choose private schools.

The grade inflation at public schools has rendered their grades meaningless and an unweighted 4.0 GPA is the norm.

Being graded beyond multiple choice exams, such as meaningful regular feedback on writing, or complex mathematics problem solving, is a good example of what a huge difference there is.

The reason for multiple choices are testing a large number of concepts going through the entire curriculum . It’s done not only for AP but also professional testing, MCAT, LSAT, GRE. It’s not like the five teachers at the math department at some high school figured out how to design a test better than the staff at a billion dollar company.

Let’s be real with complex mathematics problem solving. Give some specifics if you have. AP
Exams are well thought out.

AP exams are a joke. You can get a 5 and still be completely unprepared for the college class it was supposed to overlap with.

AP wants to sell their program to the largest audience possible, to maximize profits. Their standards are extremely low.

Comparing it to MCAT or LSAT makes no sense. Those have much harder grading that actually separates students, like the SAT.

AP results are good enough for MIT and Stanford, but nope, not good enough for you and some private school. C’mon now, let’s not exaggerate.

Curious how you think Calculus at private is that much better than AP Calculus BC. From the syllabus bits I’ve seen on the internet it’s not what you make it seem. Be specific if you can instead of generalities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP classes are like a McDonalds happy meal. They even throw in a little toy, college credit. However, if you really care you can do much better for your kids.

I’ll give you the fact that AP classes have shortcomings, but let’s be honest here, it’s not like private classes are that much better.

Lower division major classes are a commodity, Calculus 1 for example is pretty much the same at many universities, they’ll use the same textbooks.

In what way is private school calculus better than the AP or community college version? It’s not, if anything the community college class is the most rigorous among them.

There are other legitimate reasons to go to a private school, but rigor of classes over AP is not one of them.

College credit and placement is definitely nice to have.

Rigor of coursework is one of the top reasons to choose private schools.

The grade inflation at public schools has rendered their grades meaningless and an unweighted 4.0 GPA is the norm.

Being graded beyond multiple choice exams, such as meaningful regular feedback on writing, or complex mathematics problem solving, is a good example of what a huge difference there is.

The reason for multiple choices are testing a large number of concepts going through the entire curriculum . It’s done not only for AP but also professional testing, MCAT, LSAT, GRE. It’s not like the five teachers at the math department at some high school figured out how to design a test better than the staff at a billion dollar company.

Let’s be real with complex mathematics problem solving. Give some specifics if you have. AP
Exams are well thought out.

AP exams are a joke. You can get a 5 and still be completely unprepared for the college class it was supposed to overlap with.

AP wants to sell their program to the largest audience possible, to maximize profits. Their standards are extremely low.

Comparing it to MCAT or LSAT makes no sense. Those have much harder grading that actually separates students, like the SAT.

AP results are good enough for MIT and Stanford, but nope, not good enough for you and some private school. C’mon now, let’s not exaggerate.

Curious how you think Calculus at private is that much better than AP Calculus BC. From the syllabus bits I’ve seen on the internet it’s not what you make it seem. Be specific if you can instead of generalities.

Challenging students to go far beyond the AP curriculum, mirroring what an T30 college would provide, and offering multiple math classes beyond multi variable calculus, is the expectation at a decent private.