Should financial aid in private school be stricter?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Independent school’s bring in who they want. They aren’t getting scammed.


Yes. The only one scammed are middle income families subsidizing other middle income families through financial aid.

If that’s how you feel, find a different school. Who knowingly allows themselves to be scammed?


If you don’t feel like providing financial aid to low income families, maybe you should reconsider naming your school inclusive, and perhaps calling it elitist. I think that’s perfectly fine. What is weird is to be in an elitist school that wants to present itself
As progressive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.



The pricing is completing wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Independent school’s bring in who they want. They aren’t getting scammed.


Yes. The only one scammed are middle income families subsidizing other middle income families through financial aid.

If that’s how you feel, find a different school. Who knowingly allows themselves to be scammed?


If you don’t feel like providing financial aid to low income families, maybe you should reconsider naming your school inclusive, and perhaps calling it elitist. I think that’s perfectly fine. What is weird is to be in an elitist school that wants to present itself
As progressive.



How many private schools rejected you? There is a huge chip on your shoulder.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.


I agree with you. There a a lot of bitter parents here that do not want to heat anything else that their school is perfect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.



The pricing is completing wrong.



+1 out of touch and completely wrong
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.



The pricing is completing wrong.



+1 out of touch and completely wrong

How so?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Independent school’s bring in who they want. They aren’t getting scammed.


Yes. The only one scammed are middle income families subsidizing other middle income families through financial aid.

If that’s how you feel, find a different school. Who knowingly allows themselves to be scammed?


If you don’t feel like providing financial aid to low income families, maybe you should reconsider naming your school inclusive, and perhaps calling it elitist. I think that’s perfectly fine. What is weird is to be in an elitist school that wants to present itself
As progressive.



How many private schools rejected you? There is a huge chip on your shoulder.


There could be a taxonomy of posters on DCUM. This one is the toxic parent type—the kind who gets offended if anyone dares to suggest their school isn't perfect. And honestly, I get it. When you’re paying $60K a year, any doubt about the value of that investment feels uncomfortable. But their responses are exactly what makes it fun to post on DCUM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.



The pricing is completing wrong.



+1 out of touch and completely wrong

How so?



Do you live under a rock?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.



The pricing is completing wrong.



+1 out of touch and completely wrong

I thought it was accurate, what do you mean?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They want some economic diversity but they're largely not prepared to deal with potentially bombastic class and cultural clashes that could result by bringing in truly low income kids who would have to be full ride+. It's easier to subsidize a middle class, college educated couple and their kids who couldn't afford private school but have kids who can, "blend" enough and share similar educational values. That's really it. Let's not kid ourselves, these schools are bastions of extreme privilege, but if they started giving full rides, needing to offer free lunch, subsidize field trips etc. In any way en masse people would FREAK out. So yeah, you're going to get some dual Feds with PhDs bringing in 300k. I think the schools prefer that in so many ways.

I agree. I’m the poster above with a 250k HHI and 3 kids who get significant aid in private school. Our school does prioritize income diversity which we certainly offer since most of the families probably are making over 500k. There are also families who make significantly less than us- when we initially applied we made less than 100k. What they DON’T want is to deal with high maintenance, entitled parents or alternatively parents who are not engaged in their child’s learning. They do offer full rides but will not accept a child whose needs they cannot meet (significant family instability, etc)


You actually sound really entitled. Anyone in the Bay Area who has THREE kids and expects a hand out from a private school to educate all their kids for not even the cost of one full tuition is a leach. If tuition is around 40 K and you have three children that is 120K. So 75% of that is 90k. You only pay 30K?!

What is the incentive work more to earn more if you can just get a hand out, right? Another family would have to earn 180k more than 250k - so 430k- to equal your true income because they would be paying around 50% in extra state and local taxes. So those families who you think are not in your income bracket actually are because they are having to pay $120k for their three kids. And that of course is after they pay taxes while you get your 90k of scholarship money for free.

This is why people no longer are willing to donate to financial aid. You aren't bringing anything to the table that another family wouldn't who only has one kid and makes 250k.


You’re making a lot of assumptions, and that’s the problem with your logic. Like I said, thank goodness you aren’t the one deciding what a family brings to the table. Are you combing through families financials to know their whole picture, or making assumptions based on what car they drive and where they live? What about the taxes that a family making 250k pays? What if they have to pay out of pocket for healthcare for themselves and their kids? What if they are self employed and have to pay those taxes too? What if they don’t have wealthy grandparents footing the bill? Clearly your reading comprehension is poor considering I said that our income has increased over 150k since we joined the community, and our tuition is adjusted to reflect that increase. We are happy to pay more as our income continues to increase. My school’s administration curates a very racially, economically, and neuro- diverse community. That means families with one kid or 3+ can get financial aid and the school takes into account their entire financial picture as well as community considerations to make their decision. Instead of complaining about families that you actually know nothing about, you should either stop donating to financial aid campaigns or apply for it yourself if you are qualified to do so and stay in your lane.



Again you come across as such an entitled leech. Instead as coming across as grateful you make it seem as paying only 25% for THREE kids is your right and other upper middle class families should be so grateful two of your kids are getting free rides.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.



The pricing is completing wrong.



+1 out of touch and completely wrong

How so?



Do you live under a rock?

No, I was seriously wondering
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

GTFO

Does anyone know why they are so angry? The original comment made a great Point.



The pricing is completing wrong.



+1 out of touch and completely wrong

How so?



Do you live under a rock?

I also don’t get it, what am I not caught up on?
Anonymous
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