Should financial aid in private school be stricter?

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Anonymous wrote:Independent school’s bring in who they want. They aren’t getting scammed.

Yes. The only one scammed are middle income families subsidizing other middle income families through financial aid.

These are not real middle class families.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop telling other people what to do with their money.

Private schools, as well as donors, can do whatever they want.

You sound delusional telling us where our donations should go. Focus on yourself.

Sure! Continue subsidizing upper middle class families so they can continue their trips to Europe.

We are happy to. This is the life we live.

Good for you! Ask other middle class families that are near the cutoff of financial aid what do they think. Probably they are going to be as happy as you.

Get a life. How pathetic you are to be fixated on this.

Just because YOU deem a question to be pathetic doesn’t mean it is - the only people who should not want to talk about this are the ones on the receiving end of an FA grift. Everyone else should be happy to discuss.

No, we are a full-pay private school family and we understand that private schools are private businesses. You don't get a say into how they run their business.

If you don't like how they are run then don't send your kids there.

Again the topic here is “should financial aid be stricter” - I am a full pay private school parent also and my opinion on the question that was asked is yes financial aid should be stricter. For example, if you are self employed, it is VERY easy to trick Clarity - which is the software my school uses to determine financial aid eligibility and amount. My school does zero checking, follow up, meetings, confirmations, auditing, etc on anything. So yes I think there should be something else besides this software which is the single determining factor in FA at my school.

No one GAF what you think.

If the private schools cared about it they would use a different approach.

Why are you here then???

Also I think it’s actually just too hot a topic - clearly - for them to even look into. If people on an anonymous website respond with vitriol when this topic is even broached imagine what would happen if an institution dared require a 10 minute meeting with families who they are giving tens of thousands of dollars to - no questions asked? There would be outrage similar to what happens here, they would be accused of discrimination similar to what happens here, invasion of privacy similar to what happens here.

It’s not a hot topic at all. It’s just none of your business.

Next thing you will want to tell them who they should admit.

I DGAF how private schools handle financial aid. They decide who attends and can provide financial support as they deem appropriate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

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I agree with your statement. Let me tell you what is the issue with an example with a concrete school and publicly available data (so parents from private schools don’t go bananas).

In Maret only 34 percent of the financial aid goes to families with income of 150k or less. So your example falls in that category which I think it’s fair. I don’t feel comfortable, specially with the 34 percent of financial aid that goes to families earning 250k or more. And that’s why I raise the issue if financial aid could be a bit stricter. I personally think that it should stop at an income grater than 150k.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

Troll.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop telling other people what to do with their money.

Private schools, as well as donors, can do whatever they want.

You sound delusional telling us where our donations should go. Focus on yourself.

Sure! Continue subsidizing upper middle class families so they can continue their trips to Europe.

That's how private school works. If you don't like it, don't send your kids there. Easy peasy.

I can see a bit of groupthink here….

It's private school FFS. Rando, entitled parents don't get to dictate what private entities do.

Are these all of the open school whiners who are now whining about private schools? lol

Yes. Parents are not entitled to have an opinion about a school…. That is financed by parents….very logical.

No one is forcing you to send your kids to private school. MYOB.

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Anonymous wrote:Independent school’s bring in who they want. They aren’t getting scammed.

Yes. The only one scammed are middle income families subsidizing other middle income families through financial aid.

Nope, we all know what we are doing.

Well you know. But wouldnt hurt to say that financial aid is not really philanthropy. School are subsidizing well off families and excluding Low income families by design. Then somehow the image of inclusion that want to portray gets a bit tainted, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Independent school’s bring in who they want. They aren’t getting scammed.

+1

You don’t like it, you are welcome to leave.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop telling other people what to do with their money.

Private schools, as well as donors, can do whatever they want.

You sound delusional telling us where our donations should go. Focus on yourself.

Sure! Continue subsidizing upper middle class families so they can continue their trips to Europe.

That's how private school works. If you don't like it, don't send your kids there. Easy peasy.

I can see a bit of groupthink here….

It's private school FFS. Rando, entitled parents don't get to dictate what private entities do.

Are these all of the open school whiners who are now whining about private schools? lol

Yes. Parents are not entitled to have an opinion about a school…. That is financed by parents….very logical.

No one is forcing you to send your kids to private school. MYOB.

By the same token, nobody is forcing to read my comments. I think it’s perfectly fine that financial aid criteria should be stricter. In normal schools parents do provide feedback. Maybe iyoir kids are in a military academy where is not usual to provide feedback.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Independent school’s bring in who they want. They aren’t getting scammed.

+1

You don’t like it, you are welcome to leave.

Sure. You don’t like my comments, you are free to skip it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

That’s a public school income.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop telling other people what to do with their money.

Private schools, as well as donors, can do whatever they want.

You sound delusional telling us where our donations should go. Focus on yourself.

Sure! Continue subsidizing upper middle class families so they can continue their trips to Europe.

We are happy to. This is the life we live.

Good for you! Ask other middle class families that are near the cutoff of financial aid what do they think. Probably they are going to be as happy as you.

Get a life. How pathetic you are to be fixated on this.

Just because YOU deem a question to be pathetic doesn’t mean it is - the only people who should not want to talk about this are the ones on the receiving end of an FA grift. Everyone else should be happy to discuss.

No, we are a full-pay private school family and we understand that private schools are private businesses. You don't get a say into how they run their business.

If you don't like how they are run then don't send your kids there.

Again the topic here is “should financial aid be stricter” - I am a full pay private school parent also and my opinion on the question that was asked is yes financial aid should be stricter. For example, if you are self employed, it is VERY easy to trick Clarity - which is the software my school uses to determine financial aid eligibility and amount. My school does zero checking, follow up, meetings, confirmations, auditing, etc on anything. So yes I think there should be something else besides this software which is the single determining factor in FA at my school.

No one GAF what you think.

If the private schools cared about it they would use a different approach.

Why are you here then???

Also I think it’s actually just too hot a topic - clearly - for them to even look into. If people on an anonymous website respond with vitriol when this topic is even broached imagine what would happen if an institution dared require a 10 minute meeting with families who they are giving tens of thousands of dollars to - no questions asked? There would be outrage similar to what happens here, they would be accused of discrimination similar to what happens here, invasion of privacy similar to what happens here.

It’s not a hot topic at all. It’s just none of your business.

Next thing you will want to tell them who they should admit.

I DGAF how private schools handle financial aid. They decide who attends and can provide financial support as they deem appropriate.

I think your approach works well in a military academy. In private schools parents pay,‘and they can have an opinion if money is wasted, for instance in subsidizing well off families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not a one-size-fits-all situation. In the Cleveland area, a family earning $136K a year would almost never qualify for aid from a Catholic high school—that’s considered upper-middle class there. Tuition is probably around $11K to $25K, and homes are far more affordable; you can buy a nice house for $200K or less.

In contrast, in the D.C. area, $136K is more of a middle-class income. Catholic high school tuition can run anywhere from $20K to $40K, and a modest townhouse might cost $350K or more. If a family earns $136K, has one kid, lives in a $350K townhouse, and the school charges $27K in tuition, I’d absolutely want them to receive aid. It’s all relative to cost of living.

No just no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Independent school’s bring in who they want. They aren’t getting scammed.

Yes. The only one scammed are middle income families subsidizing other middle income families through financial aid.

If that’s how you feel, find a different school. Who knowingly allows themselves to be scammed?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop telling other people what to do with their money.

Private schools, as well as donors, can do whatever they want.

You sound delusional telling us where our donations should go. Focus on yourself.

Sure! Continue subsidizing upper middle class families so they can continue their trips to Europe.

We are happy to. This is the life we live.

Good for you! Ask other middle class families that are near the cutoff of financial aid what do they think. Probably they are going to be as happy as you.

Get a life. How pathetic you are to be fixated on this.

Just because YOU deem a question to be pathetic doesn’t mean it is - the only people who should not want to talk about this are the ones on the receiving end of an FA grift. Everyone else should be happy to discuss.

No, we are a full-pay private school family and we understand that private schools are private businesses. You don't get a say into how they run their business.

If you don't like how they are run then don't send your kids there.

Again the topic here is “should financial aid be stricter” - I am a full pay private school parent also and my opinion on the question that was asked is yes financial aid should be stricter. For example, if you are self employed, it is VERY easy to trick Clarity - which is the software my school uses to determine financial aid eligibility and amount. My school does zero checking, follow up, meetings, confirmations, auditing, etc on anything. So yes I think there should be something else besides this software which is the single determining factor in FA at my school.

No one GAF what you think.

If the private schools cared about it they would use a different approach.

Why are you here then???

Also I think it’s actually just too hot a topic - clearly - for them to even look into. If people on an anonymous website respond with vitriol when this topic is even broached imagine what would happen if an institution dared require a 10 minute meeting with families who they are giving tens of thousands of dollars to - no questions asked? There would be outrage similar to what happens here, they would be accused of discrimination similar to what happens here, invasion of privacy similar to what happens here.

It’s not a hot topic at all. It’s just none of your business.

Next thing you will want to tell them who they should admit.

I DGAF how private schools handle financial aid. They decide who attends and can provide financial support as they deem appropriate.

I think your approach works well in a military academy. In private schools parents pay,‘and they can have an opinion if money is wasted, for instance in subsidizing well off families.

They can have their own opinion and they can take their butts to a different school as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop telling other people what to do with their money.

Private schools, as well as donors, can do whatever they want.

You sound delusional telling us where our donations should go. Focus on yourself.

Sure! Continue subsidizing upper middle class families so they can continue their trips to Europe.

We are happy to. This is the life we live.

Good for you! Ask other middle class families that are near the cutoff of financial aid what do they think. Probably they are going to be as happy as you.

Get a life. How pathetic you are to be fixated on this.

Just because YOU deem a question to be pathetic doesn’t mean it is - the only people who should not want to talk about this are the ones on the receiving end of an FA grift. Everyone else should be happy to discuss.

No, we are a full-pay private school family and we understand that private schools are private businesses. You don't get a say into how they run their business.

If you don't like how they are run then don't send your kids there.

Again the topic here is “should financial aid be stricter” - I am a full pay private school parent also and my opinion on the question that was asked is yes financial aid should be stricter. For example, if you are self employed, it is VERY easy to trick Clarity - which is the software my school uses to determine financial aid eligibility and amount. My school does zero checking, follow up, meetings, confirmations, auditing, etc on anything. So yes I think there should be something else besides this software which is the single determining factor in FA at my school.

No one GAF what you think.

If the private schools cared about it they would use a different approach.

Why are you here then???

Also I think it’s actually just too hot a topic - clearly - for them to even look into. If people on an anonymous website respond with vitriol when this topic is even broached imagine what would happen if an institution dared require a 10 minute meeting with families who they are giving tens of thousands of dollars to - no questions asked? There would be outrage similar to what happens here, they would be accused of discrimination similar to what happens here, invasion of privacy similar to what happens here.

It’s not a hot topic at all. It’s just none of your business.

Next thing you will want to tell them who they should admit.

I DGAF how private schools handle financial aid. They decide who attends and can provide financial support as they deem appropriate.

I think your approach works well in a military academy. In private schools parents pay,‘and they can have an opinion if money is wasted, for instance in subsidizing well off families.

They can have their own opinion and they can take their butts to a different school as well.

Correct. And some can stay and provide feedback even if you don’t like the feedback.