King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Want to add that would be <2300 kids for the entire new Western HS with those six elementary schools. Including 1). leakage to TJHSST 2). Some HS dropouts taken into consideration. Which would be similar to South Lakes, Oakton, and Chantilly HS once those kids are removed. The question is how much a depleted Westfield can then backfill with Centreville.


Well, you’re going to move Bull Run into Westfield and Willow Springs into Centreville. And then there is a split feeder like Powell that could consolidate at Centreville as well.

Ultimately will this end up turning Fairfax HS exclusively into a school for Fairfax City students?


I can't see that happening unless they put Lee's Corner at Westfield and then greenbriar east to Chantilly. I think that has about 0.01% chance of that though.


They won't move Lees Corner, 3xcept neighborhoods near 28.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Want to add that would be <2300 kids for the entire new Western HS with those six elementary schools. Including 1). leakage to TJHSST 2). Some HS dropouts taken into consideration. Which would be similar to South Lakes, Oakton, and Chantilly HS once those kids are removed. The question is how much a depleted Westfield can then backfill with Centreville.


Well, you’re going to move Bull Run into Westfield and Willow Springs into Centreville. And then there is a split feeder like Powell that could consolidate at Centreville as well.

Ultimately will this end up turning Fairfax HS exclusively into a school for Fairfax City students?


I can't see that happening unless they put Lee's Corner at Westfield and then greenbriar east to Chantilly. I think that has about 0.01% chance of that though.


They won't move Lees Corner, 3xcept neighborhoods near 28.


I only mentioned because in the new scenarios, THRU has about half the school going to Westfield. But I agree they won't move the whole school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Eliminate AAP. That way you can backfill AAP kids from Waples Mill, Navy, and Lees Corner going to Carson with the entirety of Oak Hill ES to Carson instead.

Carson and the Western HS should be : Floris Coates, McNair, Fox Mill, Oak Hill, and Crossfield ~ 600 kids per grade


Isn’t capacity at KAA 1200? I don’t think it can take on that many kids
Anonymous
I found this website with a few more pictures of the inside. It is very modern, there will be renovations required for sure. But I assume the part operating as high school currently might need less renovations than the kindergarten area, so perhaps they could do a phase in.

https://www.dlrgroup.com/work/king-abdullah-academy/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:They should open it as a TJ type school but for the Arts.


Because what this country needs is more Starbucks employees with six-figure college debt.


You are an example of someone who has nothing of value to contribute to the conversation.
Be nice or go home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eliminate AAP. That way you can backfill AAP kids from Waples Mill, Navy, and Lees Corner going to Carson with the entirety of Oak Hill ES to Carson instead.

Carson and the Western HS should be : Floris Coates, McNair, Fox Mill, Oak Hill, and Crossfield ~ 600 kids per grade


Isn’t capacity at KAA 1200? I don’t think it can take on that many kids

The link PP just posted says the building is 320,000 sq ft. For comparison, Centreville HS without the modular is 325,000 sq ft, so I’m guessing this school will end up having a capacity around 2000 when they convert it from K-12 to 9-12
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I found this website with a few more pictures of the inside. It is very modern, there will be renovations required for sure. But I assume the part operating as high school currently might need less renovations than the kindergarten area, so perhaps they could do a phase in.

https://www.dlrgroup.com/work/king-abdullah-academy/

Those kindergarten spaces are huge. They can probably turn them into 3 classrooms each with very little effort.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eliminate AAP. That way you can backfill AAP kids from Waples Mill, Navy, and Lees Corner going to Carson with the entirety of Oak Hill ES to Carson instead.

Carson and the Western HS should be : Floris Coates, McNair, Fox Mill, Oak Hill, and Crossfield ~ 600 kids per grade


Isn’t capacity at KAA 1200? I don’t think it can take on that many kids

The link PP just posted says the building is 320,000 sq ft. For comparison, Centreville HS without the modular is 325,000 sq ft, so I’m guessing this school will end up having a capacity around 2000 when they convert it from K-12 to 9-12

There are also two administrative buildings on the campus, 2950 and 2954 Education Dr, to the west of the main building. They are 15,000 sq ft each. They would make for some super fancy modulars if they needed to squeeze a few more kids in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Want to add that would be <2300 kids for the entire new Western HS with those six elementary schools. Including 1). leakage to TJHSST 2). Some HS dropouts taken into consideration. Which would be similar to South Lakes, Oakton, and Chantilly HS once those kids are removed. The question is how much a depleted Westfield can then backfill with Centreville.


Well, you’re going to move Bull Run into Westfield and Willow Springs into Centreville. And then there is a split feeder like Powell that could consolidate at Centreville as well.

Ultimately will this end up turning Fairfax HS exclusively into a school for Fairfax City students?


I can't see that happening unless they put Lee's Corner at Westfield and then greenbriar east to Chantilly. I think that has about 0.01% chance of that though.


I would imagine they move Lees Corner and Oak Hill to the new school to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eliminate AAP. That way you can backfill AAP kids from Waples Mill, Navy, and Lees Corner going to Carson with the entirety of Oak Hill ES to Carson instead.

Carson and the Western HS should be : Floris Coates, McNair, Fox Mill, Oak Hill, and Crossfield ~ 600 kids per grade


Isn’t capacity at KAA 1200? I don’t think it can take on that many kids

The link PP just posted says the building is 320,000 sq ft. For comparison, Centreville HS without the modular is 325,000 sq ft, so I’m guessing this school will end up having a capacity around 2000 when they convert it from K-12 to 9-12

There are also two administrative buildings on the campus, 2950 and 2954 Education Dr, to the west of the main building. They are 15,000 sq ft each. They would make for some super fancy modulars if they needed to squeeze a few more kids in.


I still think this should just be turned into the Rachel Carson Secondary School campus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Want to add that would be <2300 kids for the entire new Western HS with those six elementary schools. Including 1). leakage to TJHSST 2). Some HS dropouts taken into consideration. Which would be similar to South Lakes, Oakton, and Chantilly HS once those kids are removed. The question is how much a depleted Westfield can then backfill with Centreville.


Well, you’re going to move Bull Run into Westfield and Willow Springs into Centreville. And then there is a split feeder like Powell that could consolidate at Centreville as well.

Ultimately will this end up turning Fairfax HS exclusively into a school for Fairfax City students?


I can't see that happening unless they put Lee's Corner at Westfield and then greenbriar east to Chantilly. I think that has about 0.01% chance of that though.


They won't move Lees Corner, 3xcept neighborhoods near 28.


I only mentioned because in the new scenarios, THRU has about half the school going to Westfield. But I agree they won't move the whole school.


The FCPS maps are misleading. The proposed rezone expanding the boundary of Lees Corner across route 50 is mostly commercial area. He will only be adding a small cluster of residents near the Wegmans to Lees corner (which totally does NOT make any sense.

Thru is NOT sending half of Lees corner to Westfield. He is sending only a very small tiny fraction to Westfield and in doing so, he is creating a NEW split feeder.
Anonymous
I'm sorry, but as a parent, you are all losing sight of one thing. That school closing has uprooted 1200 families. Do you know how many kids are entirely devastated by the loss of this building that they called their own home? The sale was devastating for many families and children. While you all marvel at the architecture, you're forgetting that it was made for a particular type of community, and a beautiful one at that who don't have any other place like this in the area. These messages are so cold and distant from the reality that all these families and kids are now displaced and don't know where to go. The school actually brought a lot of good to the county with the diverse and international population. Many families with accomplished backgrounds even moved families to the county and brought their businesses to this area because of the school. Keeping the school as KAA actually better served the overall county. This sale has hurt too many people, and not a single post here has shown any empathy for the kids who have been crying about it. you are all parents. I would think you would know this yourselves.
Anonymous
FCPS has the money. Sure they got a bargain deal but they have the money and they could custom build a school. That bargain deal btw came at the cost of breaking apart a vibrant school and community that are extremely sad at this loss.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but as a parent, you are all losing sight of one thing. That school closing has uprooted 1200 families. Do you know how many kids are entirely devastated by the loss of this building that they called their own home? The sale was devastating for many families and children. While you all marvel at the architecture, you're forgetting that it was made for a particular type of community, and a beautiful one at that who don't have any other place like this in the area. These messages are so cold and distant from the reality that all these families and kids are now displaced and don't know where to go. The school actually brought a lot of good to the county with the diverse and international population. Many families with accomplished backgrounds even moved families to the county and brought their businesses to this area because of the school. Keeping the school as KAA actually better served the overall county. This sale has hurt too many people, and not a single post here has shown any empathy for the kids who have been crying about it. you are all parents. I would think you would know this yourselves.


FCPS had nothing to do with the closing of the school. Talk to the Saudi Government who made that choice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry, but as a parent, you are all losing sight of one thing. That school closing has uprooted 1200 families. Do you know how many kids are entirely devastated by the loss of this building that they called their own home? The sale was devastating for many families and children. While you all marvel at the architecture, you're forgetting that it was made for a particular type of community, and a beautiful one at that who don't have any other place like this in the area. These messages are so cold and distant from the reality that all these families and kids are now displaced and don't know where to go. The school actually brought a lot of good to the county with the diverse and international population. Many families with accomplished backgrounds even moved families to the county and brought their businesses to this area because of the school. Keeping the school as KAA actually better served the overall county. This sale has hurt too many people, and not a single post here has shown any empathy for the kids who have been crying about it. you are all parents. I would think you would know this yourselves.


Good point. Also where are those 1200 kids going? People are planning moves without considering those kids needing a place to go.
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