Biden commutes all but 3 federal death sentences

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

PP here. Fine if guaranteed NEVER getting out. Now let's see 3 paragraphs about the innocence and good lives of the victims and the horrors they endured.

Well, take comfort in knowing that the criminals will suffer more and longer since they won’t be killed by the state. They will have years more misery and many will be brutalized by other inmates for years longer than had they been put to death.

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

Translation: Please please please stop talking about this. Biden is trying to tank us and we can’t have people pointing out how psychopathic he is.

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

+1. It's a big "Oh, that's sad...but moving on" for the victims.

+2

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Meanwhile, Trump would have executed the Central Park Five, who are innocent.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, Trump would have executed the Central Park Five, who are innocent.

Exactly. And exactly why there should
Be no capital punishment.

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

PP here. Fine if guaranteed NEVER getting out. Now let's see 3 paragraphs about the innocence and good lives of the victims and the horrors they endured.

Well, take comfort in knowing that the criminals will suffer more and longer since they won’t be killed by the state. They will have years more misery and many will be brutalized by other inmates for years longer than had they been put to death.

PP here. That doesn't give me comfort at all. My focus/concern is for innocent victims who experience torture, brutality, maiming, rape, murder,etc by these depraved human beings.

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

PP here. Fine if guaranteed NEVER getting out. Now let's see 3 paragraphs about the innocence and good lives of the victims and the horrors they endured.

Well, take comfort in knowing that the criminals will suffer more and longer since they won’t be killed by the state. They will have years more misery and many will be brutalized by other inmates for years longer than had they been put to death.

PP here. That doesn't give me comfort at all. My focus/concern is for innocent victims who experience torture, brutality, maiming, rape, murder,etc by these depraved human beings.

How will the death penalty help?

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

PP here. Fine if guaranteed NEVER getting out. Now let's see 3 paragraphs about the innocence and good lives of the victims and the horrors they endured.

Well, take comfort in knowing that the criminals will suffer more and longer since they won’t be killed by the state. They will have years more misery and many will be brutalized by other inmates for years longer than had they been put to death.

PP here. That doesn't give me comfort at all. My focus/concern is for innocent victims who experience torture, brutality, maiming, rape, murder,etc by these depraved human beings.

How will the death penalty help?

PP here. I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but I'm disgusted by people expressing more concern for those in prison than for their innocent victims. I'm also disgusted by lenient judges who let them be free to harm again.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile, Trump would have executed the Central Park Five, who are innocent.

Exactly. And exactly why there should
Be no capital punishment.

Biden believes capital punishment just not for child killers.

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Anonymous wrote:Far-left activists called for mass pardons/commutations, so Biden’s handlers jumped to fulfill their wishes. This move is pretty much par for the course for Democrats. They spend all their time worrying about being “humane” to criminals and illegal immigrants, and give the middle finger to law abiding Americans.

It does feel this way.

Only if you are a sucker for GOP propaganda.

As a Democrat who voted for Harris, where’s the lie? Biden’s actions post-election are actually making me look forward to President Trump and that is a phrase I have never thought I’d ever utter.

Sure you are. Because pardoning traitors who commit crimes against their country is *SO* much better. Trump PARDONED and rewarded traitors.

Biden rewarded vicious murderers. Pardoning the J6 protestors, many of whom were non-violent and none of whom committed murder, will look justifiable compared to Biden’s actions and self-interest in pardoning his son.

Nothing Trump does is for the interest of anyone except himself.

Biden used the power of his office to pardon his son from any federal crime he may have committed over the past 11 years. That’s corruption unlike anything I have seen before.

Knowing Trump is coming in, you wouldn’t have done the same? Trump is probably the most vindictive president ever.

Not everyone wants their children to commit crimes and then get away with them. Some teach people personal responsibility. But I am sure in 20 years a kind Democrat will commute your kid's sentences and push they into the Innocence Project.

If you believe in personal responsibility, then you cannot possibly defend or vote for Donald Trump. If you did, you are a complete hypocrite and no one has any reason to listen to your ridiculous soapbox rants.

Typical GOP projection and deflection.

Ironic considering you are trying to deflect from Biden’s despicable commutations by talking about Trump instead.

No, that post was spot on. When has Trump ever taken responsibility or admitted wrongdoing for anything? Just like all his supporters.

Why are you trying to deflect to Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

Horrific.

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

PP here. Fine if guaranteed NEVER getting out. Now let's see 3 paragraphs about the innocence and good lives of the victims and the horrors they endured.

Well, take comfort in knowing that the criminals will suffer more and longer since they won’t be killed by the state. They will have years more misery and many will be brutalized by other inmates for years longer than had they been put to death.

PP here. That doesn't give me comfort at all. My focus/concern is for innocent victims who experience torture, brutality, maiming, rape, murder,etc by these depraved human beings.

How will the death penalty help?

Why is your focus not on the victims and their families?

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

PP here. Fine if guaranteed NEVER getting out. Now let's see 3 paragraphs about the innocence and good lives of the victims and the horrors they endured.

Well, take comfort in knowing that the criminals will suffer more and longer since they won’t be killed by the state. They will have years more misery and many will be brutalized by other inmates for years longer than had they been put to death.

PP here. That doesn't give me comfort at all. My focus/concern is for innocent victims who experience torture, brutality, maiming, rape, murder,etc by these depraved human beings.

How will the death penalty help?

PP here. I'm not in favor of the death penalty, but I'm disgusted by people expressing more concern for those in prison than for their innocent victims. I'm also disgusted by lenient judges who let them be free to harm again.

No one is expressing “more concern”’for them. Who do WE want to be as a society? Life in prison without parole is the maximum humane punishment. We do not need to debase ourselves by becoming inhumane murderers too.

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

PP here. Fine if guaranteed NEVER getting out. Now let's see 3 paragraphs about the innocence and good lives of the victims and the horrors they endured.

Well, take comfort in knowing that the criminals will suffer more and longer since they won’t be killed by the state. They will have years more misery and many will be brutalized by other inmates for years longer than had they been put to death.

PP here. That doesn't give me comfort at all. My focus/concern is for innocent victims who experience torture, brutality, maiming, rape, murder,etc by these depraved human beings.

How will the death penalty help?

Why is your focus not on the victims and their families?

How does the death penalty help the victims?

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Anonymous wrote:Kaboni Savage, one of those whose sentence was commuted, murdered 12 people, including 4 children that he burned to death. When talking about his crimes, he joked that a surviving family member should "get him some barbecue sauce...[and] pour it on them burnt b******s."

Truly a man deserving of lenience.

We are learning by the day what the Democrats think about ordinary people who are the victims of crime.

I disagree. It's horrific what happened to the victims. But being anti death penalty is about us as a society. Humans are flawed and so all human systems are flawed. Do we want our flawed system killing people decades after the crime was committed? Especially since our flawed system does convict and sentence innocent people on occasion. Isn't one innocent life taken by a death penalty too much? Taken by government? I'm not sure how many anti government people seem ok with the government killing people: they are wrong about masks and the covid vaccine but they are right about killing people?

All cultures determine what an acceptable killing is. And that varies by culture. Just wars but not unjust wars, self defense but not killing over stealing your car, etc. Hundreds of years ago, there were fewer ways to ensure a horrible criminal didn't re-offend and harm more people. So killing them may have been the only way to ensure the survival of the rest of the group/town/community. Today, we have max security prisons that remove people from society and minimize the harm they can do. There is no need to make government kill people when there are still flawed judicial processes and we have better ways of keeping society safe from the perpetrators.

You gave one sentence to the victims. The rest of your post is about showing humanity and fairness to the murderers aho tortured them. We can see where you put most of your concern.

DP but it’s about not becoming murderers ourselves. We should not be equally barbaric to them if we believe murder is wrong.

These people will still be in prison until they die. They are not getting a pass.

Seriously, we have MUCH more consequential issue to be upset about. This is about being more civilized as a country than the criminals are. Humans should have evolved past this.

PP here. Fine if guaranteed NEVER getting out. Now let's see 3 paragraphs about the innocence and good lives of the victims and the horrors they endured.

Well, take comfort in knowing that the criminals will suffer more and longer since they won’t be killed by the state. They will have years more misery and many will be brutalized by other inmates for years longer than had they been put to death.

PP here. That doesn't give me comfort at all. My focus/concern is for innocent victims who experience torture, brutality, maiming, rape, murder,etc by these depraved human beings.

How will the death penalty help?

Why is your focus not on the victims and their families?

How does the death penalty help the victims?

I'm not for the death penalty. I AM for life imprisonment with NO PAROLE.