Do you let your dog off leash ever?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.

Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.

YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.

Nope. Other people's kids are not my responsibility, they have their parents/guardians for that

Your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

So, you're trying to put responsibility for the safety of your kids on others? I guess you're prefer to be right rather then safe.
Common sense is not so common this days....

As I said, your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.

Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.

YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.

Nope. Other people's kids are not my responsibility, they have their parents/guardians for that

Your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

So, you're trying to put responsibility for the safety of your kids on others? I guess you're prefer to be right rather then safe.
Common sense is not so common this days....

As I said, your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

You don't have the right to decide what my responsibilities are.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.

Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.

YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.

Nope. Other people's kids are not my responsibility, they have their parents/guardians for that

Your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

So, you're trying to put responsibility for the safety of your kids on others? I guess you're prefer to be right rather then safe.
Common sense is not so common this days....

As I said, your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

You don't have the right to decide what my responsibilities are.

In a civil society, people have the right to expect that others will follow the law, or be reported and punished for violating it.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.

Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.

YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.

Nope. Other people's kids are not my responsibility, they have their parents/guardians for that

Your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

So, you're trying to put responsibility for the safety of your kids on others? I guess you're prefer to be right rather then safe.
Common sense is not so common this days....

As I said, your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

You don't have the right to decide what my responsibilities are.

Your responsibilities have already been decided: there's a law, and you're not obeying it. Your failure to obey the law is causing potential harm to others.

You're the AH in this situation, whether you see it or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.

Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.

YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.

Nope. Other people's kids are not my responsibility, they have their parents/guardians for that

Controlling your dog is your responsibility. Your dog should never pose a threat to anyone, and should be under your control at all times.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.

Have you ever met a golden retriever who bites? I have not. I do know Pitt bulls who have maimed and killed other animals, and various other breeds who have attacked but not with the same lethality as pitts.

Leash laws aren't just for biting. I also don't want your friendly, non-biting golden retriever running up to my 4 year old who is afraid of dogs and scaring the ever living daylight out of her. Which happened once at the "informal dog run" in our neighborhood. The dog was perfectly friendly so I was thankfully not worried about the dog mauling my kid, but it also was obviously untrained with zero recall, as when the owner sauntered up a moment later, the dog fully ignored its owner for several minutes while eating all my kid's goldfish and licking both of us on the hands and face. Were we hurt? No. Was it a totally unwelcome and inappropriate interaction? Yes.

Leash your dog.

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My child is also afraid of dogs. Yet the number of times people decide it is OK to grin, sheepish, as their pet runs up to my small child, slobbering and trying to lick and paw at her, is insane.

OP, if your unleashed dog came close to me and my child, I will kick it as hard as I can in the snout, hoping to really hurt it, maybe break its jaw. I've done it before and will not hesitate to do it again. The last time a dog ran up to my child and the owners could no recall it, I think I actually broke its jaw; the sharp cracking sound and the way it yipped as it ran away from me and its owner indicate I hurt it badly, and I don't care. So I guess this is another danger for your friendly golden retriever if you leave it unleashed.

Wow, you are truly evil.

Again, the incredible arrogance of assuming everyone else will make the world safe for your dog when you break the law and let it off leash and out of your control.

There's a super simple way to avoid your dog interacting with a stranger's boot. It's called a leash. Use one.

I do 100percent. But deliberately injuring an innocent animal is cruel.

You're putting the blame in the wrong place. Deliberately letting your dog run up to people without knowing who those people are and how they might react is cruel. Nobody owes your dog, or you, a damned thing. And if your loose dog is running up on my kid, my responsibility is to protect my kid, not your dog.

Again, if your dog is 100 percent leashed in public, you've got nothing to worry about.

You don't have to break it's jaw. And my dog hates kids so we aren't allowing him near any. Hope an owner breaks your jaw for attacking their dog

This is the non-logic of these types. If I'm the sort to break your dog's face, what, precisely, do you imagine I might do to yours?

Don't start none, won't be none. Just leash your dog!

Even when dogs are leashed you'd complain. Someone kicked or hurt my dog, I'd do it right back at them and mace them.

You're a mess.

I have a very specific complaint: off-leash dogs allowed to run up on me/my family/my dog in violation of the laws that allow me peaceable use of shared public space. I will complain (to the authorities, not just here) if your off-leash dog gives me grief. If you can't understand that, well, I can't help you.

Best of luck.

And, the dog owner can complain to authorities as well and charge you with animal abuse and have your dog put down.

Nope. If your dog runs up on me and I defend myself and your dog gets hurt: THAT'S YOUR FAULT for letting your dog run up on me. Similarly, if your unleashed dog runs up on my leashed dog and gets bitten: THAT'S YOUR FAULT for letting your dog run up on my dog.

If you didn't maintain control of your animal, you are responsible and liable for whatever happens.

Please learn.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.

Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.

This is not like, “of course kids have the right to run into the ocean during a riptide, but use your common sense and don’t let your kids be in danger”. This is like, “I’m shooting my gun on this sidewalk and if you let your kid outdoors, that’s on you, bro!”

It’s not my kids fault if they walk into a park and your dog knocks them over. It’s YOUR fault.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Because normal dog greetings are different than abnormal human greetings. There is a social code between dogs. There is a different social code between humans. The answer is to properly socialize dogs and humans so that nobody starts attacking one another just because they are nearby. Dogs greeting is not anything like a stranger hugging you. And if someone I meet innocently tries to hug me? I just back away. I don’t assault them.

Assault them back. You don't assault them back, and that's your call to make, but unwanted contact is assault. If you want to react to it like it's acceptable to you, well, do you, I guess.

I don't want to be assaulted by you, or your dog, or anyone. I want to enjoy my right to public space unassaulted, thanks.

Why would I? I pick my battles, assaulting someone back for honest mistake or simple stupidity is not the reasonable course of action. But you do you

I love how some law-breaking idiot who can't even control a dog smugly suggests they have the high ground because they'd consider an assault an 'honest mistake'.

Congratulations on your liberal delusions. Please stay away from me.

There is no liberal delusion in my position, only personal responsibility for my own actions. I don't live with pink glasses on assuming I have a right to be unassaulted. I know that real world is full of unwanted interactions, and I have no control over other people actions, so I make my own choices on how to react in certain situations. Calling other posters names on anon forum is not one of them.

All of this, when all you had to do was leash your dog...

Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go lol

It's not my personal opinion, sweetie. It's the law. Control your dog, no matter where you go, and you'll be fine.

I'm always in control of my dog, wherever he's on leash or not. And I can decide for myself when, where, and what laws to abide, and I'm fine, thank you. Fell free to do the same, sweetie 😘

You actually can’t decide for yourself when, where, and what laws to abide. Lol. I mean in practice, sure, we all can. I can drive my car through your yard right now because there is traffic and your yard would be quicker. I could decide that I don’t have a lot of money for groceries this week and steal yours at gunpoint in the parking lot of Whole Foods. But wouldn’t it be nicer to live in a world where we all just follow the laws and don’t decide for ourselves which ones we want to follow and which ones we don’t?

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Because normal dog greetings are different than abnormal human greetings. There is a social code between dogs. There is a different social code between humans. The answer is to properly socialize dogs and humans so that nobody starts attacking one another just because they are nearby. Dogs greeting is not anything like a stranger hugging you. And if someone I meet innocently tries to hug me? I just back away. I don’t assault them.

Assault them back. You don't assault them back, and that's your call to make, but unwanted contact is assault. If you want to react to it like it's acceptable to you, well, do you, I guess.

I don't want to be assaulted by you, or your dog, or anyone. I want to enjoy my right to public space unassaulted, thanks.

Why would I? I pick my battles, assaulting someone back for honest mistake or simple stupidity is not the reasonable course of action. But you do you

I love how some law-breaking idiot who can't even control a dog smugly suggests they have the high ground because they'd consider an assault an 'honest mistake'.

Congratulations on your liberal delusions. Please stay away from me.

There is no liberal delusion in my position, only personal responsibility for my own actions. I don't live with pink glasses on assuming I have a right to be unassaulted. I know that real world is full of unwanted interactions, and I have no control over other people actions, so I make my own choices on how to react in certain situations. Calling other posters names on anon forum is not one of them.

All of this, when all you had to do was leash your dog...

Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go lol

It's not my personal opinion, sweetie. It's the law. Control your dog, no matter where you go, and you'll be fine.

I'm always in control of my dog, wherever he's on leash or not. And I can decide for myself when, where, and what laws to abide, and I'm fine, thank you. Fell free to do the same, sweetie 😘

You actually can’t decide for yourself when, where, and what laws to abide. Lol. I mean in practice, sure, we all can. I can drive my car through your yard right now because there is traffic and your yard would be quicker. I could decide that I don’t have a lot of money for groceries this week and steal yours at gunpoint in the parking lot of Whole Foods. But wouldn’t it be nicer to live in a world where we all just follow the laws and don’t decide for ourselves which ones we want to follow and which ones we don’t?

Well, I guess you never had oral sex in Maryland or when through your husbands pockets when he was sleeping, nor ever drove above speed limit - all those are against the law (and I can continue with that list). Those unlawful actions are more in line with letting dog off-leash in the remote areas then armed robbery. You know that, but pretend to be holier then thou in this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Because normal dog greetings are different than abnormal human greetings. There is a social code between dogs. There is a different social code between humans. The answer is to properly socialize dogs and humans so that nobody starts attacking one another just because they are nearby. Dogs greeting is not anything like a stranger hugging you. And if someone I meet innocently tries to hug me? I just back away. I don’t assault them.

Assault them back. You don't assault them back, and that's your call to make, but unwanted contact is assault. If you want to react to it like it's acceptable to you, well, do you, I guess.

I don't want to be assaulted by you, or your dog, or anyone. I want to enjoy my right to public space unassaulted, thanks.

Why would I? I pick my battles, assaulting someone back for honest mistake or simple stupidity is not the reasonable course of action. But you do you

I love how some law-breaking idiot who can't even control a dog smugly suggests they have the high ground because they'd consider an assault an 'honest mistake'.

Congratulations on your liberal delusions. Please stay away from me.

There is no liberal delusion in my position, only personal responsibility for my own actions. I don't live with pink glasses on assuming I have a right to be unassaulted. I know that real world is full of unwanted interactions, and I have no control over other people actions, so I make my own choices on how to react in certain situations. Calling other posters names on anon forum is not one of them.

All of this, when all you had to do was leash your dog...

Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go lol

It's not my personal opinion, sweetie. It's the law. Control your dog, no matter where you go, and you'll be fine.

I'm always in control of my dog, wherever he's on leash or not. And I can decide for myself when, where, and what laws to abide, and I'm fine, thank you. Fell free to do the same, sweetie 😘

You actually can’t decide for yourself when, where, and what laws to abide. Lol. I mean in practice, sure, we all can. I can drive my car through your yard right now because there is traffic and your yard would be quicker. I could decide that I don’t have a lot of money for groceries this week and steal yours at gunpoint in the parking lot of Whole Foods. But wouldn’t it be nicer to live in a world where we all just follow the laws and don’t decide for ourselves which ones we want to follow and which ones we don’t?

Well, I guess you never had oral sex in Maryland or when through your husbands pockets when he was sleeping, nor ever drove above speed limit - all those are against the law (and I can continue with that list). Those unlawful actions are more in line with letting dog off-leash in the remote areas then armed robbery. You know that, but pretend to be holier then thou in this thread.

Or, you could stay on topic and follow the law by keeping your dog under your control at all times, which usually means using a leash. 🤷🏼‍♀️

The lengths some of you clowns will go to in order to justify your stupidity...

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Because normal dog greetings are different than abnormal human greetings. There is a social code between dogs. There is a different social code between humans. The answer is to properly socialize dogs and humans so that nobody starts attacking one another just because they are nearby. Dogs greeting is not anything like a stranger hugging you. And if someone I meet innocently tries to hug me? I just back away. I don’t assault them.

Assault them back. You don't assault them back, and that's your call to make, but unwanted contact is assault. If you want to react to it like it's acceptable to you, well, do you, I guess.

I don't want to be assaulted by you, or your dog, or anyone. I want to enjoy my right to public space unassaulted, thanks.

Why would I? I pick my battles, assaulting someone back for honest mistake or simple stupidity is not the reasonable course of action. But you do you

I love how some law-breaking idiot who can't even control a dog smugly suggests they have the high ground because they'd consider an assault an 'honest mistake'.

Congratulations on your liberal delusions. Please stay away from me.

There is no liberal delusion in my position, only personal responsibility for my own actions. I don't live with pink glasses on assuming I have a right to be unassaulted. I know that real world is full of unwanted interactions, and I have no control over other people actions, so I make my own choices on how to react in certain situations. Calling other posters names on anon forum is not one of them.

All of this, when all you had to do was leash your dog...

Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go lol

It's not my personal opinion, sweetie. It's the law. Control your dog, no matter where you go, and you'll be fine.

I'm always in control of my dog, wherever he's on leash or not. And I can decide for myself when, where, and what laws to abide, and I'm fine, thank you. Fell free to do the same, sweetie 😘

You actually can’t decide for yourself when, where, and what laws to abide. Lol. I mean in practice, sure, we all can. I can drive my car through your yard right now because there is traffic and your yard would be quicker. I could decide that I don’t have a lot of money for groceries this week and steal yours at gunpoint in the parking lot of Whole Foods. But wouldn’t it be nicer to live in a world where we all just follow the laws and don’t decide for ourselves which ones we want to follow and which ones we don’t?

Well, I guess you never had oral sex in Maryland or when through your husbands pockets when he was sleeping, nor ever drove above speed limit - all those are against the law (and I can continue with that list). Those unlawful actions are more in line with letting dog off-leash in the remote areas then armed robbery. You know that, but pretend to be holier then thou in this thread.

Or, you could stay on topic and follow the law by keeping your dog under your control at all times, which usually means using a leash. 🤷🏼‍♀️

The lengths some of you clowns will go to in order to justify your stupidity...

As I said before - I always in control of my dog, leashed or not.
And speaking of lengths some go - that's you who keep resorting to personal insults. That clearly shows my stupidity, yeah, right ...

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Because normal dog greetings are different than abnormal human greetings. There is a social code between dogs. There is a different social code between humans. The answer is to properly socialize dogs and humans so that nobody starts attacking one another just because they are nearby. Dogs greeting is not anything like a stranger hugging you. And if someone I meet innocently tries to hug me? I just back away. I don’t assault them.

Assault them back. You don't assault them back, and that's your call to make, but unwanted contact is assault. If you want to react to it like it's acceptable to you, well, do you, I guess.

I don't want to be assaulted by you, or your dog, or anyone. I want to enjoy my right to public space unassaulted, thanks.

Why would I? I pick my battles, assaulting someone back for honest mistake or simple stupidity is not the reasonable course of action. But you do you

I love how some law-breaking idiot who can't even control a dog smugly suggests they have the high ground because they'd consider an assault an 'honest mistake'.

Congratulations on your liberal delusions. Please stay away from me.

There is no liberal delusion in my position, only personal responsibility for my own actions. I don't live with pink glasses on assuming I have a right to be unassaulted. I know that real world is full of unwanted interactions, and I have no control over other people actions, so I make my own choices on how to react in certain situations. Calling other posters names on anon forum is not one of them.

All of this, when all you had to do was leash your dog...

Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go lol

It's not my personal opinion, sweetie. It's the law. Control your dog, no matter where you go, and you'll be fine.

I'm always in control of my dog, wherever he's on leash or not. And I can decide for myself when, where, and what laws to abide, and I'm fine, thank you. Fell free to do the same, sweetie 😘

You actually can’t decide for yourself when, where, and what laws to abide. Lol. I mean in practice, sure, we all can. I can drive my car through your yard right now because there is traffic and your yard would be quicker. I could decide that I don’t have a lot of money for groceries this week and steal yours at gunpoint in the parking lot of Whole Foods. But wouldn’t it be nicer to live in a world where we all just follow the laws and don’t decide for ourselves which ones we want to follow and which ones we don’t?

Well, I guess you never had oral sex in Maryland or when through your husbands pockets when he was sleeping, nor ever drove above speed limit - all those are against the law (and I can continue with that list). Those unlawful actions are more in line with letting dog off-leash in the remote areas then armed robbery. You know that, but pretend to be holier then thou in this thread.

You are nuts.

No one on this thread cares what you do in your own bedroom or whether you go through your spouse's pockets while they are sleeping.

At a park where dogs are legally required to be on a leash, PUT YOUR DOG ON A LEASH. We have told you 100 different ways that this is an illegal behavior that directly impacts us and is not acceptable. So actually it is a lot more like armed robbery than violating some ancient law against oral sex that no one expects to be enforced.

Also, guess what. You have no legal entitlement to have a dog. So if you can't leash your dog in public areas as required by law, I will call animal control on you until they take your dog away. If you can't follow this basic requirement for dog ownership, you shouldn't have a dog.

Also please get your personality disorder treated.

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Anonymous wrote:My dog (not a pit, a beagle) will absolutely attack an off leash dog that comes up to her, and she is not kidding around. If she hurts your dog it is your fault, OP. Your dog doesn’t deserve it, but you do. You will be found at fault, too, because you are the one with the off leash dog.

You shouldn’t have your dog around others then

I can take my dog for a walk minding our own business. If you leave us alone, she will leave you alone.

Your dog is dangerous and should be out in public.

That is not how the law works. My dog isn’t dangerous if your dog is in control. Therefore if you obey the law there won’t be an issue.

Your dog is dangerous! Read your post. You are blaming other dogs and people for your lack of training and your aggressive dog.

If your dog is illegally offleash, as in the case of this thread, you are the only one to blame. Just like if it gets run over by a car. You are the one blaming other people for your poor behavior having consequences.

Yes. It's astonishing how some of these posters seem to think they can just do whatever, consequence-free, even when they know it's against the law.

Uh, but it’s not actually against the law. So what do you say now? Still ok for toot aggressive dog to attack everything around it?

Where are these "aggressive dogs" that are just "attacking everything around it"? Only in your extraordinarily vivid imagination, honey. They are figments of your paranoid mind.

My dog and I are minding our business. It is your job to keep your animal(s) away from us. Since it is highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without a leash, leash your dog. If it's an off-leash park, you're still required to keep your dog away from me. Don't unleash your dog until/unless you're certain your dog has bombproof focus and recall (which, given your posts, is probably not the case). Your dog running up into my space, putting paws on me or my dog, is a violation of the law basically everywhere in the U.S. I've ever been. So yes, it is against the law, and against all decency and common sense, to let your animal invade other people's personal space.

You keep ranting about the LAW and other people controlling their dogs, but if you can’t control your dog out in the world to not attack someone coming into it’s ‘personal space’ then you’re the one breaking the law. And just showing yourself to be a selfish sociopath.

So you are cool if a stranger comes up and hugs you? Why do you think it is ok for dog to come up to my dog?

Because normal dog greetings are different than abnormal human greetings. There is a social code between dogs. There is a different social code between humans. The answer is to properly socialize dogs and humans so that nobody starts attacking one another just because they are nearby. Dogs greeting is not anything like a stranger hugging you. And if someone I meet innocently tries to hug me? I just back away. I don’t assault them.

Assault them back. You don't assault them back, and that's your call to make, but unwanted contact is assault. If you want to react to it like it's acceptable to you, well, do you, I guess.

I don't want to be assaulted by you, or your dog, or anyone. I want to enjoy my right to public space unassaulted, thanks.

Why would I? I pick my battles, assaulting someone back for honest mistake or simple stupidity is not the reasonable course of action. But you do you

I love how some law-breaking idiot who can't even control a dog smugly suggests they have the high ground because they'd consider an assault an 'honest mistake'.

Congratulations on your liberal delusions. Please stay away from me.

There is no liberal delusion in my position, only personal responsibility for my own actions. I don't live with pink glasses on assuming I have a right to be unassaulted. I know that real world is full of unwanted interactions, and I have no control over other people actions, so I make my own choices on how to react in certain situations. Calling other posters names on anon forum is not one of them.

All of this, when all you had to do was leash your dog...

Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go lol

It's not my personal opinion, sweetie. It's the law. Control your dog, no matter where you go, and you'll be fine.

I'm always in control of my dog, wherever he's on leash or not. And I can decide for myself when, where, and what laws to abide, and I'm fine, thank you. Fell free to do the same, sweetie 😘

You actually can’t decide for yourself when, where, and what laws to abide. Lol. I mean in practice, sure, we all can. I can drive my car through your yard right now because there is traffic and your yard would be quicker. I could decide that I don’t have a lot of money for groceries this week and steal yours at gunpoint in the parking lot of Whole Foods. But wouldn’t it be nicer to live in a world where we all just follow the laws and don’t decide for ourselves which ones we want to follow and which ones we don’t?

Well, I guess you never had oral sex in Maryland or when through your husbands pockets when he was sleeping, nor ever drove above speed limit - all those are against the law (and I can continue with that list). Those unlawful actions are more in line with letting dog off-leash in the remote areas then armed robbery. You know that, but pretend to be holier then thou in this thread.

Well if I drive above the speed limit and hurt someone I’d absolutely be at fault. Having your dog off leash affects everyone you come across because everyone has to respond accordingly (for example, the poster who says parents shouldn’t let their kids around off leash dogs). Or even if you think you’re alone, maybe someone sees you from afar and hikes the other way. Your illegal actions make things inconvenient for others. Just like if I’m speeding and it makes another car change lanes to avoid me, that’s me being illegal and harming others. And I don’t drive like that.

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The whole concept of an “unofficial dog park” is whack. If I am visiting from out of town and taking my dog for a walk, how am I supposed to know you break the law regularly and I should be ready for that?

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Anonymous wrote:The whole concept of an “unofficial dog park” is whack. If I am visiting from out of town and taking my dog for a walk, how am I supposed to know you break the law regularly and I should be ready for that?

I guess the trolls are enjoying their lolz on the anon board, but can you imagine anyone actually making these arguments in real life?

"But, officer, it's an unofficial dog run! My neighbors do it all the time!"

"But, your honor, nobody can make me follow the law! You don't have the right to decide what my responsibilities are!"

If it weren't such a liability, it'd be comedy gold.