Do you let your dog off leash ever?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.


Have you ever met a golden retriever who bites? I have not. I do know Pitt bulls who have maimed and killed other animals, and various other breeds who have attacked but not with the same lethality as pitts.


Leash laws aren't just for biting. I also don't want your friendly, non-biting golden retriever running up to my 4 year old who is afraid of dogs and scaring the ever living daylight out of her. Which happened once at the "informal dog run" in our neighborhood. The dog was perfectly friendly so I was thankfully not worried about the dog mauling my kid, but it also was obviously untrained with zero recall, as when the owner sauntered up a moment later, the dog fully ignored its owner for several minutes while eating all my kid's goldfish and licking both of us on the hands and face. Were we hurt? No. Was it a totally unwelcome and inappropriate interaction? Yes.

Leash your dog.


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My child is also afraid of dogs. Yet the number of times people decide it is OK to grin, sheepish, as their pet runs up to my small child, slobbering and trying to lick and paw at her, is insane.

OP, if your unleashed dog came close to me and my child, I will kick it as hard as I can in the snout, hoping to really hurt it, maybe break its jaw. I've done it before and will not hesitate to do it again. The last time a dog ran up to my child and the owners could no recall it, I think I actually broke its jaw; the sharp cracking sound and the way it yipped as it ran away from me and its owner indicate I hurt it badly, and I don't care. So I guess this is another danger for your friendly golden retriever if you leave it unleashed.


Wow, you are truly evil.


Again, the incredible arrogance of assuming everyone else will make the world safe for your dog when you break the law and let it off leash and out of your control.

There's a super simple way to avoid your dog interacting with a stranger's boot. It's called a leash. Use one.


I do 100percent. But deliberately injuring an innocent animal is cruel.


You're putting the blame in the wrong place. Deliberately letting your dog run up to people without knowing who those people are and how they might react is cruel. Nobody owes your dog, or you, a damned thing. And if your loose dog is running up on my kid, my responsibility is to protect my kid, not your dog.

Again, if your dog is 100 percent leashed in public, you've got nothing to worry about.


You don't have to break it's jaw. And my dog hates kids so we aren't allowing him near any. Hope an owner breaks your jaw for attacking their dog


This is the non-logic of these types. If I'm the sort to break your dog's face, what, precisely, do you imagine I might do to yours?

Don't start none, won't be none. Just leash your dog!


Even when dogs are leashed you'd complain. Someone kicked or hurt my dog, I'd do it right back at them and mace them.
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Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.
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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.


Have you ever met a golden retriever who bites? I have not. I do know Pitt bulls who have maimed and killed other animals, and various other breeds who have attacked but not with the same lethality as pitts.


Leash laws aren't just for biting. I also don't want your friendly, non-biting golden retriever running up to my 4 year old who is afraid of dogs and scaring the ever living daylight out of her. Which happened once at the "informal dog run" in our neighborhood. The dog was perfectly friendly so I was thankfully not worried about the dog mauling my kid, but it also was obviously untrained with zero recall, as when the owner sauntered up a moment later, the dog fully ignored its owner for several minutes while eating all my kid's goldfish and licking both of us on the hands and face. Were we hurt? No. Was it a totally unwelcome and inappropriate interaction? Yes.

Leash your dog.


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My child is also afraid of dogs. Yet the number of times people decide it is OK to grin, sheepish, as their pet runs up to my small child, slobbering and trying to lick and paw at her, is insane.

OP, if your unleashed dog came close to me and my child, I will kick it as hard as I can in the snout, hoping to really hurt it, maybe break its jaw. I've done it before and will not hesitate to do it again. The last time a dog ran up to my child and the owners could no recall it, I think I actually broke its jaw; the sharp cracking sound and the way it yipped as it ran away from me and its owner indicate I hurt it badly, and I don't care. So I guess this is another danger for your friendly golden retriever if you leave it unleashed.


Wow, you are truly evil.


Again, the incredible arrogance of assuming everyone else will make the world safe for your dog when you break the law and let it off leash and out of your control.

There's a super simple way to avoid your dog interacting with a stranger's boot. It's called a leash. Use one.


I do 100percent. But deliberately injuring an innocent animal is cruel.


You're putting the blame in the wrong place. Deliberately letting your dog run up to people without knowing who those people are and how they might react is cruel. Nobody owes your dog, or you, a damned thing. And if your loose dog is running up on my kid, my responsibility is to protect my kid, not your dog.

Again, if your dog is 100 percent leashed in public, you've got nothing to worry about.


You don't have to break it's jaw. And my dog hates kids so we aren't allowing him near any. Hope an owner breaks your jaw for attacking their dog


This is the non-logic of these types. If I'm the sort to break your dog's face, what, precisely, do you imagine I might do to yours?

Don't start none, won't be none. Just leash your dog!


Even when dogs are leashed you'd complain. Someone kicked or hurt my dog, I'd do it right back at them and mace them.


You're a mess.

I have a very specific complaint: off-leash dogs allowed to run up on me/my family/my dog in violation of the laws that allow me peaceable use of shared public space. I will complain (to the authorities, not just here) if your off-leash dog gives me grief. If you can't understand that, well, I can't help you.

Best of luck.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.


Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.


Have you ever met a golden retriever who bites? I have not. I do know Pitt bulls who have maimed and killed other animals, and various other breeds who have attacked but not with the same lethality as pitts.


Leash laws aren't just for biting. I also don't want your friendly, non-biting golden retriever running up to my 4 year old who is afraid of dogs and scaring the ever living daylight out of her. Which happened once at the "informal dog run" in our neighborhood. The dog was perfectly friendly so I was thankfully not worried about the dog mauling my kid, but it also was obviously untrained with zero recall, as when the owner sauntered up a moment later, the dog fully ignored its owner for several minutes while eating all my kid's goldfish and licking both of us on the hands and face. Were we hurt? No. Was it a totally unwelcome and inappropriate interaction? Yes.

Leash your dog.


+1

My child is also afraid of dogs. Yet the number of times people decide it is OK to grin, sheepish, as their pet runs up to my small child, slobbering and trying to lick and paw at her, is insane.

OP, if your unleashed dog came close to me and my child, I will kick it as hard as I can in the snout, hoping to really hurt it, maybe break its jaw. I've done it before and will not hesitate to do it again. The last time a dog ran up to my child and the owners could no recall it, I think I actually broke its jaw; the sharp cracking sound and the way it yipped as it ran away from me and its owner indicate I hurt it badly, and I don't care. So I guess this is another danger for your friendly golden retriever if you leave it unleashed.


Wow, you are truly evil.


Again, the incredible arrogance of assuming everyone else will make the world safe for your dog when you break the law and let it off leash and out of your control.

There's a super simple way to avoid your dog interacting with a stranger's boot. It's called a leash. Use one.


I do 100percent. But deliberately injuring an innocent animal is cruel.


You're putting the blame in the wrong place. Deliberately letting your dog run up to people without knowing who those people are and how they might react is cruel. Nobody owes your dog, or you, a damned thing. And if your loose dog is running up on my kid, my responsibility is to protect my kid, not your dog.

Again, if your dog is 100 percent leashed in public, you've got nothing to worry about.


You don't have to break it's jaw. And my dog hates kids so we aren't allowing him near any. Hope an owner breaks your jaw for attacking their dog


This is the non-logic of these types. If I'm the sort to break your dog's face, what, precisely, do you imagine I might do to yours?

Don't start none, won't be none. Just leash your dog!


Even when dogs are leashed you'd complain. Someone kicked or hurt my dog, I'd do it right back at them and mace them.


Or you could just leash your dog. Y'all have this wackadoodle revenge fantasy; it's like you're deliberately starting conflict and confrontation instead of using a simple, inexpensive tool to prevent encounters entirely.
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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.


Have you ever met a golden retriever who bites? I have not. I do know Pitt bulls who have maimed and killed other animals, and various other breeds who have attacked but not with the same lethality as pitts.


Leash laws aren't just for biting. I also don't want your friendly, non-biting golden retriever running up to my 4 year old who is afraid of dogs and scaring the ever living daylight out of her. Which happened once at the "informal dog run" in our neighborhood. The dog was perfectly friendly so I was thankfully not worried about the dog mauling my kid, but it also was obviously untrained with zero recall, as when the owner sauntered up a moment later, the dog fully ignored its owner for several minutes while eating all my kid's goldfish and licking both of us on the hands and face. Were we hurt? No. Was it a totally unwelcome and inappropriate interaction? Yes.

Leash your dog.


+1

My child is also afraid of dogs. Yet the number of times people decide it is OK to grin, sheepish, as their pet runs up to my small child, slobbering and trying to lick and paw at her, is insane.

OP, if your unleashed dog came close to me and my child, I will kick it as hard as I can in the snout, hoping to really hurt it, maybe break its jaw. I've done it before and will not hesitate to do it again. The last time a dog ran up to my child and the owners could no recall it, I think I actually broke its jaw; the sharp cracking sound and the way it yipped as it ran away from me and its owner indicate I hurt it badly, and I don't care. So I guess this is another danger for your friendly golden retriever if you leave it unleashed.


Wow, you are truly evil.


Again, the incredible arrogance of assuming everyone else will make the world safe for your dog when you break the law and let it off leash and out of your control.

There's a super simple way to avoid your dog interacting with a stranger's boot. It's called a leash. Use one.


I do 100percent. But deliberately injuring an innocent animal is cruel.


You're putting the blame in the wrong place. Deliberately letting your dog run up to people without knowing who those people are and how they might react is cruel. Nobody owes your dog, or you, a damned thing. And if your loose dog is running up on my kid, my responsibility is to protect my kid, not your dog.

Again, if your dog is 100 percent leashed in public, you've got nothing to worry about.


You don't have to break it's jaw. And my dog hates kids so we aren't allowing him near any. Hope an owner breaks your jaw for attacking their dog


This is the non-logic of these types. If I'm the sort to break your dog's face, what, precisely, do you imagine I might do to yours?

Don't start none, won't be none. Just leash your dog!


Even when dogs are leashed you'd complain. Someone kicked or hurt my dog, I'd do it right back at them and mace them.


You're a mess.

I have a very specific complaint: off-leash dogs allowed to run up on me/my family/my dog in violation of the laws that allow me peaceable use of shared public space. I will complain (to the authorities, not just here) if your off-leash dog gives me grief. If you can't understand that, well, I can't help you.

Best of luck.


+1.

There is nothing to challenge in this post.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.


Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.


Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.


YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.
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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.


Have you ever met a golden retriever who bites? I have not. I do know Pitt bulls who have maimed and killed other animals, and various other breeds who have attacked but not with the same lethality as pitts.


Leash laws aren't just for biting. I also don't want your friendly, non-biting golden retriever running up to my 4 year old who is afraid of dogs and scaring the ever living daylight out of her. Which happened once at the "informal dog run" in our neighborhood. The dog was perfectly friendly so I was thankfully not worried about the dog mauling my kid, but it also was obviously untrained with zero recall, as when the owner sauntered up a moment later, the dog fully ignored its owner for several minutes while eating all my kid's goldfish and licking both of us on the hands and face. Were we hurt? No. Was it a totally unwelcome and inappropriate interaction? Yes.

Leash your dog.


+1

My child is also afraid of dogs. Yet the number of times people decide it is OK to grin, sheepish, as their pet runs up to my small child, slobbering and trying to lick and paw at her, is insane.

OP, if your unleashed dog came close to me and my child, I will kick it as hard as I can in the snout, hoping to really hurt it, maybe break its jaw. I've done it before and will not hesitate to do it again. The last time a dog ran up to my child and the owners could no recall it, I think I actually broke its jaw; the sharp cracking sound and the way it yipped as it ran away from me and its owner indicate I hurt it badly, and I don't care. So I guess this is another danger for your friendly golden retriever if you leave it unleashed.


Wow, you are truly evil.


Again, the incredible arrogance of assuming everyone else will make the world safe for your dog when you break the law and let it off leash and out of your control.

There's a super simple way to avoid your dog interacting with a stranger's boot. It's called a leash. Use one.


I do 100percent. But deliberately injuring an innocent animal is cruel.


You're putting the blame in the wrong place. Deliberately letting your dog run up to people without knowing who those people are and how they might react is cruel. Nobody owes your dog, or you, a damned thing. And if your loose dog is running up on my kid, my responsibility is to protect my kid, not your dog.

Again, if your dog is 100 percent leashed in public, you've got nothing to worry about.


Most dogs ARE leashed and people like you come up wanting to pet them and then complain. These unofficial dog parks are generally no where near anyone or anything and the owners are right there monitoring.


This + 10000

And if you followed this chain, off leash dogs are legal during certain hours.


Please stop saying this as it's not accurate.

At *some* parks, they will designate certain hours for off leash dogs. Someone posted about Prospect Park in Brooklyn having off leash dog hours. Great. If a park has designated off-leash hours, then during those hours, it's an OFFICIAL off leash dog park.

But this is not universal. There are no designated off leash hours at the park near my house, for instance -- dogs are supposed to be on leash whenever they are in the park (though tons of owners flout this rule). So no, off leash dogs are not just universally legal during certain hours. This is a thing only in some places. And to my knowledge, parks in DC and MoCo (which is what has mostly been discussed in this thread) do not have designated off-leash hours. A lot of the parks in DC that have "unofficial dog parks" are actually run by the US Park Service, and I don't think there is even a mechanism by which the Park Service could designate off leash hours -- dogs are required to be on leashes in all US Parks at all times, except in parks where dogs are not permitted at all.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.


Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.


YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.

Nope. Other people's kids are not my responsibility, they have their parents/guardians for that
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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.


Have you ever met a golden retriever who bites? I have not. I do know Pitt bulls who have maimed and killed other animals, and various other breeds who have attacked but not with the same lethality as pitts.


Leash laws aren't just for biting. I also don't want your friendly, non-biting golden retriever running up to my 4 year old who is afraid of dogs and scaring the ever living daylight out of her. Which happened once at the "informal dog run" in our neighborhood. The dog was perfectly friendly so I was thankfully not worried about the dog mauling my kid, but it also was obviously untrained with zero recall, as when the owner sauntered up a moment later, the dog fully ignored its owner for several minutes while eating all my kid's goldfish and licking both of us on the hands and face. Were we hurt? No. Was it a totally unwelcome and inappropriate interaction? Yes.

Leash your dog.


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My child is also afraid of dogs. Yet the number of times people decide it is OK to grin, sheepish, as their pet runs up to my small child, slobbering and trying to lick and paw at her, is insane.

OP, if your unleashed dog came close to me and my child, I will kick it as hard as I can in the snout, hoping to really hurt it, maybe break its jaw. I've done it before and will not hesitate to do it again. The last time a dog ran up to my child and the owners could no recall it, I think I actually broke its jaw; the sharp cracking sound and the way it yipped as it ran away from me and its owner indicate I hurt it badly, and I don't care. So I guess this is another danger for your friendly golden retriever if you leave it unleashed.


Wow, you are truly evil.


Again, the incredible arrogance of assuming everyone else will make the world safe for your dog when you break the law and let it off leash and out of your control.

There's a super simple way to avoid your dog interacting with a stranger's boot. It's called a leash. Use one.


I do 100percent. But deliberately injuring an innocent animal is cruel.


You're putting the blame in the wrong place. Deliberately letting your dog run up to people without knowing who those people are and how they might react is cruel. Nobody owes your dog, or you, a damned thing. And if your loose dog is running up on my kid, my responsibility is to protect my kid, not your dog.

Again, if your dog is 100 percent leashed in public, you've got nothing to worry about.


You don't have to break it's jaw. And my dog hates kids so we aren't allowing him near any. Hope an owner breaks your jaw for attacking their dog


This is the non-logic of these types. If I'm the sort to break your dog's face, what, precisely, do you imagine I might do to yours?

Don't start none, won't be none. Just leash your dog!


Even when dogs are leashed you'd complain. Someone kicked or hurt my dog, I'd do it right back at them and mace them.


You're a mess.

I have a very specific complaint: off-leash dogs allowed to run up on me/my family/my dog in violation of the laws that allow me peaceable use of shared public space. I will complain (to the authorities, not just here) if your off-leash dog gives me grief. If you can't understand that, well, I can't help you.

Best of luck.


And, the dog owner can complain to authorities as well and charge you with animal abuse and have your dog put down.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.


Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.


YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.


No, you think the situation is unsafe so you don’t go there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.


Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.


YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.


No, you think the situation is unsafe so you don’t go there.


Who is making the situation unsafe?

You.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.


Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.


YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.

Nope. Other people's kids are not my responsibility, they have their parents/guardians for that


Your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there something in the air? Why so much violence? JFC. Live and let live. Unofficial dog runs are not the place for kids or reactive dogs (even leashed), busy parks and areas near playgrounds are not the place to unleashed or reactive/not-so-friendly dogs.
Easy-peasy to avoid confrontation and broken jaws by simply being aware of the surroundings.

I do let my dog run in the part of the park off the beaten path, I could walk for an hour there and not meet a single person, let alone kids. But when I walk near playgrounds/school/small park in the middle of the neighborhood - dog is leashed obviously.


Incorrect.

There is no such thing as an "unofficial dog park". It's just the park, and the park 100% is for kids, and leashed dogs (reactive or otherwise; how do you think they magically stop being reactive without practice? ). Sometimes, there may be authorized off-leash hours, and even during those hours, you are expected to keep your dog away from other park users, their dogs, traffic, etc.

Near playgrounds is not the place for dogs. Period. No matter how "friendly", and even if leashed. Some kids are scared of dogs, and the playground is for them, not your dog.

Easy-peasy to avoid problems by being aware of the laws, and exercising some simple common sense that, apparently, isn't so common anymore.

Who said I'm not aware of the law?
I do understand that people with kids have rights to get into "unofficial dog run" area of the park, but should they have common sense and not put their kids into situation when they have to see their parent breaking dogs jaw???
I'd rather be safe then right, apparently that's not a common sense anymore. People prefer to be right even puting their own kids in danger.


YOU are the one putting the kids in danger by allowing your dog to be unleashed.

Nope. Other people's kids are not my responsibility, they have their parents/guardians for that


Your responsibility is to follow the law and keep your dog leashed.

So, you're trying to put responsibility for the safety of your kids on others? I guess you're prefer to be right rather then safe.
Common sense is not so common this days....
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