Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump administration thinks they can use local jails/prisons to house these people. You know the jails/prisons that are already overcrowded and your local taxes pay for their care. I’d rather they be out working trying to make a living than me paying for them to do nothing.

In what other country does this happen?

You show up undocumented and illegally, and just start working for pay?

Where?

No one matches our billions of remittances to Central America. Most from cash gigs

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Anonymous wrote:Trump administration thinks they can use local jails/prisons to house these people. You know the jails/prisons that are already overcrowded and your local taxes pay for their care. I’d rather they be out working trying to make a living than me paying for them to do nothing.

How many Mow & Blow guys do you think this country needs?!?

40,000,000

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Anonymous wrote:You know what also will be expensive? The price of food and labor if illegal immigrants are deported. Good luck with getting cheap produce or paying your housekeeper and nanny on the cheap. And you better start saving if you want anything done on your house.

Hope.

Half of the illegals are not working many hours a week.

And sorry, no one anywhere is paying an illiterate, uneducated unskilled illegal in migrant to care for a baby, toddler or child or drive them around or housekeep their homes.
They don’t even know how to operate an oven properly. And forget the thermostats even in the car. Or any instructions. The lost in translations of having someone with limited English proficiency is NOT worth it. What do you think they’d get paid for that anyhow?

Incompetent is incompetent. They grew up in dirt floor shack not even knowing what road rules were, how insurance or preventative care works, how any developed country appliance works.

And you think families are going to turn over their vehicles, lawn gear, kitchens and children to them?!!?

lol

Wake up

Actually, they do.

Also, a good number of the illegal border crossers are Chinese. But, I guess those are the “good” immigrants and you don’t mind them.

DP. It is true that a LOT of liberal families employ nannies who hardly speak a word of English and can't drive. I can't imagine turning my children over to someone like that, regardless of what country they're from. The PP's description was spot on.

As for Chinese border crossers - they're illegal immigrants too. Not sure where you're getting the "good immigrants" description from. Illegal is illegal.

Ah yes it’s the liberals hiring all the illegals. Not the small business owners and farmers who voted for Trump. Nope, def. not!

It's certainly not ALL small business owners and farmers, as people like you love to claim. You simply can't deny how many liberals employ illegal immigrants to care for their children, clean their homes, landscape their yards, etc. No doubt, that's why you're so upset at the idea of deportation. Who will raise your kids and clean your toilets??

So you don’t want people making generalizations about employing illegals but you are making generalizations about liberals? And why are you equating rich with liberal? You think all those people living in McMansions are liberal? The truth is most restaurants do employ undocumented workers. As do many farmers. And construction companies. Keep telling yourself it’s just the libs who will be impacted. You are delulu.

My sister helped an illegal Colombian from Medellin last year. She managed to get him housing but really had a tough time getting him a job without a social security number. The brewery hired him for 3 days (legal) and paid him cash. Day 4 they told her they can't keep him on due to the law but they want him back once he has a social security number. The independently owned convenience store hired him on for 3 days (legal) and paid cash. Day 4 they called my sister and said they could not keep him on since he did not have a social security number but they want him back once he got his social.
She took around to around 20 independently owned restaurants. No one would hire as no social security number.
She finally found a restaurant that would take him on.

Our experience was that it was not easy to get an illegal a job. Most small business owners follow the law.

I suspect many that you assume are illegal workers are actually legal workers.

He now has his social security number. It takes 6 months in the US for an illegal to get a social security number. This allows an illegal to be legally employed in the US.

How cool! Spread the word!!

So glad we gift illegal immigrants an ID number so they can work here a bit on the books.

What other cool countries also do this?!?

It’s so they can pay taxes nimwit. Undocumented immigrants pay $96B a year in state and federal taxes. They need a SSN to do that. Yet, your white plumber is probably not reporting all his earnings to the IRS.

[Anonymous]

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Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they were able to deport all illegal immigrants, which they won’t be able to, neighborhoods and small towns would empty out. I know a lot of illegal immigrants who live in NJ and the town that they live in is thriving. It’s quiet, neat and clean. They work, pay rent and pay taxes.

Across the river there are filthy projects filled with unemployed Americans. Third generations of American born young people dependent on welfare and government housing because that’s all they know and they feel it’s their right. Neighborhoods where drug dealing is the only job and beefs between businesses are settled with guns.

We want everyone living here accounted for. Just don’t believe the hype about immigrants destroying the country. Americans can do that all by themselves.

The Haitians are already leaving Springfield after Trump won. They are going to suffer as a community.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what also will be expensive? The price of food and labor if illegal immigrants are deported. Good luck with getting cheap produce or paying your housekeeper and nanny on the cheap. And you better start saving if you want anything done on your house.

Hope.

Half of the illegals are not working many hours a week.

And sorry, no one anywhere is paying an illiterate, uneducated unskilled illegal in migrant to care for a baby, toddler or child or drive them around or housekeep their homes.
They don’t even know how to operate an oven properly. And forget the thermostats even in the car. Or any instructions. The lost in translations of having someone with limited English proficiency is NOT worth it. What do you think they’d get paid for that anyhow?

Incompetent is incompetent. They grew up in dirt floor shack not even knowing what road rules were, how insurance or preventative care works, how any developed country appliance works.

And you think families are going to turn over their vehicles, lawn gear, kitchens and children to them?!!?

lol

Wake up

Actually, they do.

Also, a good number of the illegal border crossers are Chinese. But, I guess those are the “good” immigrants and you don’t mind them.

DP. It is true that a LOT of liberal families employ nannies who hardly speak a word of English and can't drive. I can't imagine turning my children over to someone like that, regardless of what country they're from. The PP's description was spot on.

As for Chinese border crossers - they're illegal immigrants too. Not sure where you're getting the "good immigrants" description from. Illegal is illegal.

Ah yes it’s the liberals hiring all the illegals. Not the small business owners and farmers who voted for Trump. Nope, def. not!

It's certainly not ALL small business owners and farmers, as people like you love to claim. You simply can't deny how many liberals employ illegal immigrants to care for their children, clean their homes, landscape their yards, etc. No doubt, that's why you're so upset at the idea of deportation. Who will raise your kids and clean your toilets??

So you don’t want people making generalizations about employing illegals but you are making generalizations about liberals? And why are you equating rich with liberal? You think all those people living in McMansions are liberal? The truth is most restaurants do employ undocumented workers. As do many farmers. And construction companies. Keep telling yourself it’s just the libs who will be impacted. You are delulu.

My sister helped an illegal Colombian from Medellin last year. She managed to get him housing but really had a tough time getting him a job without a social security number. The brewery hired him for 3 days (legal) and paid him cash. Day 4 they told her they can't keep him on due to the law but they want him back once he has a social security number. The independently owned convenience store hired him on for 3 days (legal) and paid cash. Day 4 they called my sister and said they could not keep him on since he did not have a social security number but they want him back once he got his social.
She took around to around 20 independently owned restaurants. No one would hire as no social security number.
She finally found a restaurant that would take him on.

Our experience was that it was not easy to get an illegal a job. Most small business owners follow the law.

I suspect many that you assume are illegal workers are actually legal workers.

He now has his social security number. It takes 6 months in the US for an illegal to get a social security number. This allows an illegal to be legally employed in the US.

How cool! Spread the word!!

So glad we gift illegal immigrants an ID number so they can work here a bit on the books.

What other cool countries also do this?!?

It’s so they can pay taxes nimwit. Undocumented immigrants pay $96B a year in state and federal taxes. They need a SSN to do that. Yet, your white plumber is probably not reporting all his earnings to the IRS.

You’re quite dense and naive.

Less than 50% of their income is reported. No one cares about their paltry sale tax purchases (non food, non donations). They operate in a cash trade world. Even for their old car purchases

[Anonymous]

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Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

Trump couldn’t institute e-verify last time. Why? Because reporters asked if all his businesses were using it and when they found out they weren’t he stopped talking about it.

Yes, let’s start rounding up all the American plumbers and electricians for underreporting taxes their entire career. Let’s make the felon in chief start paying taxes.

SMDH.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what also will be expensive? The price of food and labor if illegal immigrants are deported. Good luck with getting cheap produce or paying your housekeeper and nanny on the cheap. And you better start saving if you want anything done on your house.

Hope.

Half of the illegals are not working many hours a week.

And sorry, no one anywhere is paying an illiterate, uneducated unskilled illegal in migrant to care for a baby, toddler or child or drive them around or housekeep their homes.
They don’t even know how to operate an oven properly. And forget the thermostats even in the car. Or any instructions. The lost in translations of having someone with limited English proficiency is NOT worth it. What do you think they’d get paid for that anyhow?

Incompetent is incompetent. They grew up in dirt floor shack not even knowing what road rules were, how insurance or preventative care works, how any developed country appliance works.

And you think families are going to turn over their vehicles, lawn gear, kitchens and children to them?!!?

lol

Wake up

Actually, they do.

Also, a good number of the illegal border crossers are Chinese. But, I guess those are the “good” immigrants and you don’t mind them.

DP. It is true that a LOT of liberal families employ nannies who hardly speak a word of English and can't drive. I can't imagine turning my children over to someone like that, regardless of what country they're from. The PP's description was spot on.

As for Chinese border crossers - they're illegal immigrants too. Not sure where you're getting the "good immigrants" description from. Illegal is illegal.

Ah yes it’s the liberals hiring all the illegals. Not the small business owners and farmers who voted for Trump. Nope, def. not!

It's certainly not ALL small business owners and farmers, as people like you love to claim. You simply can't deny how many liberals employ illegal immigrants to care for their children, clean their homes, landscape their yards, etc. No doubt, that's why you're so upset at the idea of deportation. Who will raise your kids and clean your toilets??

So you don’t want people making generalizations about employing illegals but you are making generalizations about liberals? And why are you equating rich with liberal? You think all those people living in McMansions are liberal? The truth is most restaurants do employ undocumented workers. As do many farmers. And construction companies. Keep telling yourself it’s just the libs who will be impacted. You are delulu.

My sister helped an illegal Colombian from Medellin last year. She managed to get him housing but really had a tough time getting him a job without a social security number. The brewery hired him for 3 days (legal) and paid him cash. Day 4 they told her they can't keep him on due to the law but they want him back once he has a social security number. The independently owned convenience store hired him on for 3 days (legal) and paid cash. Day 4 they called my sister and said they could not keep him on since he did not have a social security number but they want him back once he got his social.
She took around to around 20 independently owned restaurants. No one would hire as no social security number.
She finally found a restaurant that would take him on.

Our experience was that it was not easy to get an illegal a job. Most small business owners follow the law.

I suspect many that you assume are illegal workers are actually legal workers.

He now has his social security number. It takes 6 months in the US for an illegal to get a social security number. This allows an illegal to be legally employed in the US.

How cool! Spread the word!!

So glad we gift illegal immigrants an ID number so they can work here a bit on the books.

What other cool countries also do this?!?

It’s so they can pay taxes nimwit. Undocumented immigrants pay $96B a year in state and federal taxes. They need a SSN to do that. Yet, your white plumber is probably not reporting all his earnings to the IRS.

You’re quite dense and naive.

Less than 50% of their income is reported. No one cares about their paltry sale tax purchases (non food, non donations). They operate in a cash trade world. Even for their old car purchases

You are naive. In VA, for example, they pay a higher proportional rate in taxes than the top 1%.

So, sure let’s improve our immigration policies, but let’s also finally tax the rich. That the felon paid no taxes, but should is something that all GOP and Dem voters should be able to get behind. Will we finally tax them?

https://www.thecommonwealthinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Tax-Contributions-of-Undocumented-Immigrants-2015_V1.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

Vacant homes and businesses are so much better.

[Anonymous]

They will just drive around and any brown people with a leaf blower, straight to jail. Make America leafy again!

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Anonymous wrote:Trump administration thinks they can use local jails/prisons to house these people. You know the jails/prisons that are already overcrowded and your local taxes pay for their care. I’d rather they be out working trying to make a living than me paying for them to do nothing.

How many Mow & Blow guys do you think this country needs?!?

Not many.

We could go back to the olden days when people took vareof their own lawns. Neighborhood kids cut lawns and raked leaves. Etc. It wasn't a bad life.

They're too busy sexually assaulting girls and driving around in their pick up trucks with american flags and thinking highly derogatory thoughts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will just drive around and any brown people with a leaf blower, straight to jail. Make America leafy again!

If these are mostly people with unadjudicated asylum claims, what are they being jailed for? I'm seriously confused.

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Anonymous wrote:They will just drive around and any brown people with a leaf blower, straight to jail. Make America leafy again!

If these are mostly people with unadjudicated asylum claims, what are they being jailed for? I'm seriously confused.

They are not. That is nonsense that they're going to be rounded up and put in local jails.

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Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

Vacant homes and businesses are so much better.

They wouldn’t stay vacant long. Other working class people will move in. Interesting historical fact but that is what happened in San Francisco when Japanese internment happened, African American workers during the great migration took over where the Japanese had left.

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Love those silver spring and Wheaton “group homes” with 25+ adults crammed in a rental house and 10 old trucks and Hondas parked ON the grassy front yard and on the street in front of 7+ homes.

Good times.

It sounds like you live in a crappy neighborhood. You should have done better in school, and you'd be able to buy a better home. It all goes back to decisions you made long ago. Bootstraps.

Just driving through to the ecnl soccerplex practices. Unsafe eyesore and bad for everyone.

Agree with the PP’s:
Abolish citizenship by birth;
Require e-verify;
Close the border to illegals/ phony asylum cases;
10% fee to govt on remittances;
Deport all illegal criminals, identity frauds, tax fraud, etc.

Vacant homes and businesses are so much better.

They wouldn’t stay vacant long. Other working class people will move in. Interesting historical fact but that is what happened in San Francisco when Japanese internment happened, African American workers during the great migration took over where the Japanese had left.

Yes! Thinking like a felon. And we can give them subprime loans too. We’ll be even richer.