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Americans are sicker and unhealthier than any other major country because we don't have universal health care, unlike every other major country.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.

Experts like Fauci are corrupted as hell.

You only believe this because Donald Trump did not like that Fauci was telling people to treat the virus seriously, because it meant the stock market might crash on Trump’s watch.

No, a friend worked with him. Most people hated him at NIH.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.


Look, I agree that it wasn't perfect. It is wrong schools were shutdown while liquor and video game stores were open. I remember game stop finagling the system in order to remain open. But it was unprecedented times. You can't expect perfection during a catastrophic pandemic. Even the whole PPP loan handout had a lot of bad case study examples of where it was abused, but overall, the problem helped a ton. Issues like these are never binary and they're never all good or only all bad. Perfection cannot be the enemy of good.


It's also easier to sit there in hindsight and cast judgment on what should have been done so response was perfect. Much different story when we were actually in the trenches during the peak of a global pandemic.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.

Experts like Fauci are corrupted as hell.

You only believe this because Donald Trump did not like that Fauci was telling people to treat the virus seriously, because it meant the stock market might crash on Trump’s watch.


I don’t think he’s corrupt. I didn’t vote for Trump either (because fascism). However, I recognize the link between big pharma, government regulation, big food, and health. Government accepts and approves medications and makes dietary recommendations that further big Pharma and big food so they can further lobby for more of the same. This all negatively impact health. Our medical system should not have that much medication covering up for a poor diet because of all of that money.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not opposed to him. He’s right, Americans are sicker and more unhealthy than other countries because of our food supply and ingredients. This causes sickness where we then rely on big pharmaceuticals to improve. Keeping us sick. I agree though that it won’t be hard to block him because big pharma and the shit food lobby will fight like hell to bounce him out.


He will get in. Dems don’t realize that this issue of crap food and big pharma isn’t partisan.


People are not worried about what he will do to the crap food. They are worried about much needed drugs and vaccines.

Ban the poison food, and we’ll need fewer drugs. Pharma stocks will continue to plummet.
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Anonymous wrote:Democratic Governor of Colorado, Jared Polis, supports RFK, Jr appointment
https://x.com/jaredpolis/status/1857173250586911189

Lots of Democrat politicians admire RFK’s wisdom and experience. Good for them.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.

Experts like Fauci are corrupted as hell.

You only believe this because Donald Trump did not like that Fauci was telling people to treat the virus seriously, because it meant the stock market might crash on Trump’s watch.


I don’t think he’s corrupt. I didn’t vote for Trump either (because fascism). However, I recognize the link between big pharma, government regulation, big food, and health. Government accepts and approves medications and makes dietary recommendations that further big Pharma and big food so they can further lobby for more of the same. This all negatively impact health. Our medical system should not have that much medication covering up for a poor diet because of all of that money.


And you should go look up who gets a ton of those lobbying dollars from big ag, pharma, and the food industry. Don't be surprised when you find it is a bunch of Republicans. Also, it was the GOP who basically let Citizens United ruling pour in unlimited funding dollars to pols via opaque channels. Citizens United ruined the country.
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Anonymous wrote:Democratic Governor of Colorado, Jared Polis, supports RFK, Jr appointment
https://x.com/jaredpolis/status/1857173250586911189

Lots of Democrat politicians admire RFK’s wisdom and experience. Good for them.


That's just one. Who are the others?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.

Experts like Fauci are corrupted as hell.

You only believe this because Donald Trump did not like that Fauci was telling people to treat the virus seriously, because it meant the stock market might crash on Trump’s watch.


I don’t think he’s corrupt. I didn’t vote for Trump either (because fascism). However, I recognize the link between big pharma, government regulation, big food, and health. Government accepts and approves medications and makes dietary recommendations that further big Pharma and big food so they can further lobby for more of the same. This all negatively impact health. Our medical system should not have that much medication covering up for a poor diet because of all of that money.


And you should go look up who gets a ton of those lobbying dollars from big ag, pharma, and the food industry. Don't be surprised when you find it is a bunch of Republicans. Also, it was the GOP who basically let Citizens United ruling pour in unlimited funding dollars to pols via opaque channels. Citizens United ruined the country.


You seem to make too many assumptions about others. What does they say about you? Notice how I didn’t mention any political party in my post? They are both the same in this way.
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Anonymous wrote:We would meltdown because this is insane. You are ok with kids dying from drinking raw milk?


Good God you people are hopelessly brainwashed. Humans have consumed "raw milk" for...hundreds of thousands of years.


Humans have also died from preventable, curable diseases for hundreds of thousands of years. Luckily now we have the technology to prevent this from happening. Have you ever taken antibiotics in your life?


RFK is anti-antibiotic now? Look, we had very different hygiene and sanitation standards and technology before. When you remove feces and other pollutants from water and food supply and introduce antibiotics most things that used to kill people in early age are rather manageable. But lets not forget that people are still dying TODAY at a young age and certainly in middle age from things like cancer, heart disease, genetic conditions, diabetes, etc. Cancer is on the rise, I actually don't know if our life expectancy will be any better than our ancestors in the dark ages pretty soon if we don't do something about it.

He is on the right track, everything is fair game to investigate why our chronic illness is on the rise as well as poorly managed and often incurable terminal illnesses. I mean everything: Food, water, air quality, hormonal birth control and common medical treatments, and yes, vaccines too. Nothing is a "sacred cow" when people are dying increasingly earlier and earlier. It's too late when life expectancy drops to mid 50s while our kids are dying from OD (with increased drug use and mental health issues) with healthy ones foregoing having kids or having fertility issues.

We were talking about raw milk. You are changing the subject to distract. If you are concerned about mortality rates, why put an unsafe product on shelves?

RFK doesn’t care about health. He cares about discrediting legitimate medicine so that he and his backers can sell useless supplements to idiots.


I am asking you again, is raw milk doing to be mandatory? How does it concern you that people will be able to buy it legally any more than it concerns you that people can buy alcohol, tobacco, and even garbage high TCH content cannabis products?

The point is that if you are concerned about increasing mortality as RFK claims to be, how can you also support legalizing the sale of raw milk, which increases mortality? It’s inconsistent. How do you justify that inconsistency?

Still waiting for someone to explain this…


I am not a raw milk drinker, but open a history book. Pasteurization was a MASSIVE advancement in the history of human health -- actually listed as one of the big three of the 20th century. So many children died from the bacteria in milk...SO MANY...BUT, that's because our cold storage was trash, and milk would literally be rotting on doorsteps. Times have changed! The people selling raw milk are just...farmers selling milk from udder to glass, essentially. This is not any different that buying some beef at a farmers market that hasn't been pumped full of medicine. Dairy farmers all over the country milk a cow, then pour it into a glass for their kids. Are they bad parents? When you get that coveted reservation at Stone Barns and the chef serves you a dairy dish "straight from our artisanal cows out back" are you reporting them to the FDA?

You people hate Trump so much that you are blind to common sense. If some rich, crunchy mom wants to meet her farmer and buy his milk, let her.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.


Look, I agree that it wasn't perfect. It is wrong schools were shutdown while liquor and video game stores were open. I remember game stop finagling the system in order to remain open. But it was unprecedented times. You can't expect perfection during a catastrophic pandemic. Even the whole PPP loan handout had a lot of bad case study examples of where it was abused, but overall, the problem helped a ton. Issues like these are never binary and they're never all good or only all bad. Perfection cannot be the enemy of good.


It's also easier to sit there in hindsight and cast judgment on what should have been done so response was perfect. Much different story when we were actually in the trenches during the peak of a global pandemic.


Many of us were fighting this battle at the time, because it was as absurd then as it looks in hindsight. The experts were wrong on almost everything during Covid. The way we moved on from Covid is how we should have treated it from the beginning, and that is by treating it like the flu. Experts had to be fought tooth-and-nail at every step. They were downright harmful, and predictably so.

The only reason people carry water for them is because they've blocked this sordid episode out of their minds.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.

Experts like Fauci are corrupted as hell.

You only believe this because Donald Trump did not like that Fauci was telling people to treat the virus seriously, because it meant the stock market might crash on Trump’s watch.

No, a friend worked with him. Most people hated him at NIH.

How does that prove “experts like Fauci are corrupted as hell” or that Trump didn’t purposely sow distrust to avoid a bad stock market?
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.

Experts like Fauci are corrupted as hell.

You only believe this because Donald Trump did not like that Fauci was telling people to treat the virus seriously, because it meant the stock market might crash on Trump’s watch.


I don’t think he’s corrupt. I didn’t vote for Trump either (because fascism). However, I recognize the link between big pharma, government regulation, big food, and health. Government accepts and approves medications and makes dietary recommendations that further big Pharma and big food so they can further lobby for more of the same. This all negatively impact health. Our medical system should not have that much medication covering up for a poor diet because of all of that money.


And you should go look up who gets a ton of those lobbying dollars from big ag, pharma, and the food industry. Don't be surprised when you find it is a bunch of Republicans. Also, it was the GOP who basically let Citizens United ruling pour in unlimited funding dollars to pols via opaque channels. Citizens United ruined the country.


You seem to make too many assumptions about others. What does they say about you? Notice how I didn’t mention any political party in my post? They are both the same in this way.


The point is that while you drone on and on about undue influence from multiple industries in the govt, the GOP is in power and many of them are the exact recipients of much of the lobbying dollars. You are hopelessly naive if you think anything will change when the party in power gets much of the lobbying dollars. The GOP and Trump should kill Citizens United first if they really want to clean up the DC swamp. See how well that goes in DC with Trump and the GOP. They talk the talk, but don't truly walk the walk. They'll never kill CU.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok with RFK because I’m so tired of the arrogance of medical professionals telling me what to take, requiring doctors visits, etc. Stop telling me to not do ADHD or weight loss drugs because it’s weak. If there’s a medical reason to not do them, great. But many doctors are so judgmental.


Goddamn those scientists and doctors who know more about science and medicine than me! The Google and WebMD told me about how to treat my condition, therefore I know more than them.


Yes, stick it to all those “experts”


Experts are still people at the end of the day. They have biases, blindspots, and many are not nearly as intelligent as you might hope. Many are simply closed off to new information, hence the quote: "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it ..."

Then you have to factor in institutional capture and self interest...

Experts haven't exactly been covering themselves in glory of late. Why should we defer to them when it’s so easy to poke holes in their orthodoxy?

Experts have been doing just fine. The frequency of people disagreeing with them on the basis of no evidence has increased, though. This is because a certain person repeatedly sought to benefit himself politically by telling everyone not to trust those experts.

Trump told people to ignore all COVID safety measures so he wouldn’t be stuck with a bad economy in October 2020. Now his voters think they shouldn’t trust the vaccines that make you safer from COVID. It’s that simple.

The reason you all think ivermectin is a miracle cure for COVID is, again, because Trump wanted a way to keep people from staying inside so the economy didn’t sputter. Now you all take horse dewormer for the disease you also claim isn’t a big deal but was created by the Chinese military and Anthony Fauci.

But it’s the experts’ fault you don’t trust basic science.


Let's keep in mind that during Covid we shut down schools, churches, parks and gyms but kept liquor stores open on the recommendations of experts. That's just the tip of the iceberg of Covid absurdities from the experts btw.


Look, I agree that it wasn't perfect. It is wrong schools were shutdown while liquor and video game stores were open. I remember game stop finagling the system in order to remain open. But it was unprecedented times. You can't expect perfection during a catastrophic pandemic. Even the whole PPP loan handout had a lot of bad case study examples of where it was abused, but overall, the problem helped a ton. Issues like these are never binary and they're never all good or only all bad. Perfection cannot be the enemy of good.


It's also easier to sit there in hindsight and cast judgment on what should have been done so response was perfect. Much different story when we were actually in the trenches during the peak of a global pandemic.


Many of us were fighting this battle at the time, because it was as absurd then as it looks in hindsight. The experts were wrong on almost everything during Covid. The way we moved on from Covid is how we should have treated it from the beginning, and that is by treating it like the flu. Experts had to be fought tooth-and-nail at every step. They were downright harmful, and predictably so.

The only reason people carry water for them is because they've blocked this sordid episode out of their minds.

The experts were not wrong on “almost everything.”
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Anonymous wrote:We would meltdown because this is insane. You are ok with kids dying from drinking raw milk?


Good God you people are hopelessly brainwashed. Humans have consumed "raw milk" for...hundreds of thousands of years.


Humans have also died from preventable, curable diseases for hundreds of thousands of years. Luckily now we have the technology to prevent this from happening. Have you ever taken antibiotics in your life?


RFK is anti-antibiotic now? Look, we had very different hygiene and sanitation standards and technology before. When you remove feces and other pollutants from water and food supply and introduce antibiotics most things that used to kill people in early age are rather manageable. But lets not forget that people are still dying TODAY at a young age and certainly in middle age from things like cancer, heart disease, genetic conditions, diabetes, etc. Cancer is on the rise, I actually don't know if our life expectancy will be any better than our ancestors in the dark ages pretty soon if we don't do something about it.

He is on the right track, everything is fair game to investigate why our chronic illness is on the rise as well as poorly managed and often incurable terminal illnesses. I mean everything: Food, water, air quality, hormonal birth control and common medical treatments, and yes, vaccines too. Nothing is a "sacred cow" when people are dying increasingly earlier and earlier. It's too late when life expectancy drops to mid 50s while our kids are dying from OD (with increased drug use and mental health issues) with healthy ones foregoing having kids or having fertility issues.

We were talking about raw milk. You are changing the subject to distract. If you are concerned about mortality rates, why put an unsafe product on shelves?

RFK doesn’t care about health. He cares about discrediting legitimate medicine so that he and his backers can sell useless supplements to idiots.


I am asking you again, is raw milk doing to be mandatory? How does it concern you that people will be able to buy it legally any more than it concerns you that people can buy alcohol, tobacco, and even garbage high TCH content cannabis products?

The point is that if you are concerned about increasing mortality as RFK claims to be, how can you also support legalizing the sale of raw milk, which increases mortality? It’s inconsistent. How do you justify that inconsistency?

Still waiting for someone to explain this…


I am not a raw milk drinker, but open a history book. Pasteurization was a MASSIVE advancement in the history of human health -- actually listed as one of the big three of the 20th century. So many children died from the bacteria in milk...SO MANY...BUT, that's because our cold storage was trash, and milk would literally be rotting on doorsteps. Times have changed! The people selling raw milk are just...farmers selling milk from udder to glass, essentially. This is not any different that buying some beef at a farmers market that hasn't been pumped full of medicine. Dairy farmers all over the country milk a cow, then pour it into a glass for their kids. Are they bad parents? When you get that coveted reservation at Stone Barns and the chef serves you a dairy dish "straight from our artisanal cows out back" are you reporting them to the FDA?

You people hate Trump so much that you are blind to common sense. If some rich, crunchy mom wants to meet her farmer and buy his milk, let her.


It’s almost as if every agricultural milestone was meant just to bring more people with less nutrition. For example, cereals and grains are basically void of nutrition. Nonetheless, advances in irrigation, transportation, and storage, meant that humans could produce much more of them to feed society. The result is a larger population, but with nutritional deficiencies. The same is true for pasteurization. It allows the safe production to scale of dairy, but at a reduced nutritional value
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