FBI HQ in PG!

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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


Might want to get your facts straight before posting.
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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


The GSA report says it’s a half mile and that’s along an indirect road.
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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.
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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


This is actually the most absurd post that I’ve seen in a long time.


When they connect Frontier to Loisdale - it will go by or through the site. The Frontier road proposal will go forward, but if they build a new HQ there, it may need altering. Or not, I don't know. But the current metro station is already changing.
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Anonymous wrote:Probably be years before anything happens

The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


So, they will need to:
- Empty and demolish a bunch of warehouses
- rebuild the metro station and/or create a shuttle system

But somehow Springfield is still the better location?
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Anonymous wrote:Probably be years before anything happens

The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


Walking distance was the site selection criteria. Not whether a shuttle is feasible. A shuttle is another hassle and long term cost.
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Anonymous wrote:Probably be years before anything happens

The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


So, they will need to:
- Empty and demolish a bunch of warehouses
- rebuild the metro station and/or create a shuttle system

But somehow Springfield is still the better location?


The metro station is already going to be rebuilt. That has nothing to do with this. Although they could work with each other, if any decision is made in a reasonable amount of time.

Yes, the "big problem" with the Springfield site is a bunch of warehouses that need to be relocated. You think that should stop the FBI from getting a new HQ where they want it (close to Quantico and airports)? Some warehouses?
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Anonymous wrote:Probably be years before anything happens

The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


"Employees will be able to walk from the Metro station, and by walk, we mean they will be able to take a shuttle from the Metro station during certain hours..."
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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


So, they will need to:
- Empty and demolish a bunch of warehouses
- rebuild the metro station and/or create a shuttle system

But somehow Springfield is still the better location?


The metro station is already going to be rebuilt. That has nothing to do with this. Although they could work with each other, if any decision is made in a reasonable amount of time.

Yes, the "big problem" with the Springfield site is a bunch of warehouses that need to be relocated. You think that should stop the FBI from getting a new HQ where they want it (close to Quantico and airports)? Some warehouses?


When the cost is going to be near 10 figures? Yes.

There were two other sites that did not have this price tag. The convenience to Quantico is being overstated to justify why you want the GSA to spend an additional $1B and inconvenience the various agencies that are already have storage and inventory at that site. So, it's fine to uproot smaller agencies that have very specifically designed storage facilities that have to be relocated and rebuilt to the same specifications just to move the FBI to one specific site. The agency has survived for over 100 years with those who need to travel from downtown to Quantico and they can survive for another 100 without being next door to Quantico. Besides, most people that travel to Quantico are not going from HQ to Quantico. Most are being assigned for a day or multiple days and will travel from homes to Quantico. If, as all the Virginians say, the majority of the HQ staff live in NoVa, then they will be commuting from home, not from their normal work office at HQ.

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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


So, they will need to:
- Empty and demolish a bunch of warehouses
- rebuild the metro station and/or create a shuttle system

But somehow Springfield is still the better location?


The metro station is already going to be rebuilt. That has nothing to do with this. Although they could work with each other, if any decision is made in a reasonable amount of time.

Yes, the "big problem" with the Springfield site is a bunch of warehouses that need to be relocated. You think that should stop the FBI from getting a new HQ where they want it (close to Quantico and airports)? Some warehouses?


When the cost is going to be near 10 figures? Yes.

There were two other sites that did not have this price tag. The convenience to Quantico is being overstated to justify why you want the GSA to spend an additional $1B and inconvenience the various agencies that are already have storage and inventory at that site. So, it's fine to uproot smaller agencies that have very specifically designed storage facilities that have to be relocated and rebuilt to the same specifications just to move the FBI to one specific site. The agency has survived for over 100 years with those who need to travel from downtown to Quantico and they can survive for another 100 without being next door to Quantico. Besides, most people that travel to Quantico are not going from HQ to Quantico. Most are being assigned for a day or multiple days and will travel from homes to Quantico. If, as all the Virginians say, the majority of the HQ staff live in NoVa, then they will be commuting from home, not from their normal work office at HQ.



Take a look at the criteria. That's what the FBI wanted, proximity to Quantico, airports, and main Justice. The 3 locations varied but Springfield met all three the best.

You, Ms. Albert, are negating their stated preference. You are deciding that they don't know what they want and should just go somewhere else, that you think is better for them.
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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


So, they will need to:
- Empty and demolish a bunch of warehouses
- rebuild the metro station and/or create a shuttle system

But somehow Springfield is still the better location?


The metro station is already going to be rebuilt. That has nothing to do with this. Although they could work with each other, if any decision is made in a reasonable amount of time.

Yes, the "big problem" with the Springfield site is a bunch of warehouses that need to be relocated. You think that should stop the FBI from getting a new HQ where they want it (close to Quantico and airports)? Some warehouses?


When the cost is going to be near 10 figures? Yes.

There were two other sites that did not have this price tag. The convenience to Quantico is being overstated to justify why you want the GSA to spend an additional $1B and inconvenience the various agencies that are already have storage and inventory at that site. So, it's fine to uproot smaller agencies that have very specifically designed storage facilities that have to be relocated and rebuilt to the same specifications just to move the FBI to one specific site. The agency has survived for over 100 years with those who need to travel from downtown to Quantico and they can survive for another 100 without being next door to Quantico. Besides, most people that travel to Quantico are not going from HQ to Quantico. Most are being assigned for a day or multiple days and will travel from homes to Quantico. If, as all the Virginians say, the majority of the HQ staff live in NoVa, then they will be commuting from home, not from their normal work office at HQ.



Take a look at the criteria. That's what the FBI wanted, proximity to Quantico, airports, and main Justice. The 3 locations varied but Springfield met all three the best.

You, Ms. Albert, are negating their stated preference. You are deciding that they don't know what they want and should just go somewhere else, that you think is better for them.


That's literally what the GSA is for. The FBI does the FBI stuff. The GSA does the real estate stuff. The FBI does not do the real estate stuff.
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Good point. If the stares leaders don't support the FBI, then why should they locate to that state?

+1 See also Tommy Tuberville losing Space Force to Colorado with his nonsense.
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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


So, they will need to:
- Empty and demolish a bunch of warehouses
- rebuild the metro station and/or create a shuttle system

But somehow Springfield is still the better location?


The metro station is already going to be rebuilt. That has nothing to do with this. Although they could work with each other, if any decision is made in a reasonable amount of time.

Yes, the "big problem" with the Springfield site is a bunch of warehouses that need to be relocated. You think that should stop the FBI from getting a new HQ where they want it (close to Quantico and airports)? Some warehouses?

THIS COSTS A BILLION MORE DOLLARS.
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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


So, they will need to:
- Empty and demolish a bunch of warehouses
- rebuild the metro station and/or create a shuttle system

But somehow Springfield is still the better location?


The metro station is already going to be rebuilt. That has nothing to do with this. Although they could work with each other, if any decision is made in a reasonable amount of time.

Yes, the "big problem" with the Springfield site is a bunch of warehouses that need to be relocated. You think that should stop the FBI from getting a new HQ where they want it (close to Quantico and airports)? Some warehouses?


When the cost is going to be near 10 figures? Yes.

There were two other sites that did not have this price tag. The convenience to Quantico is being overstated to justify why you want the GSA to spend an additional $1B and inconvenience the various agencies that are already have storage and inventory at that site. So, it's fine to uproot smaller agencies that have very specifically designed storage facilities that have to be relocated and rebuilt to the same specifications just to move the FBI to one specific site. The agency has survived for over 100 years with those who need to travel from downtown to Quantico and they can survive for another 100 without being next door to Quantico. Besides, most people that travel to Quantico are not going from HQ to Quantico. Most are being assigned for a day or multiple days and will travel from homes to Quantico. If, as all the Virginians say, the majority of the HQ staff live in NoVa, then they will be commuting from home, not from their normal work office at HQ.



Take a look at the criteria. That's what the FBI wanted, proximity to Quantico, airports, and main Justice. The 3 locations varied but Springfield met all three the best.

You, Ms. Albert, are negating their stated preference. You are deciding that they don't know what they want and should just go somewhere else, that you think is better for them.


That's literally what the GSA is for. The FBI does the FBI stuff. The GSA does the real estate stuff. The FBI does not do the real estate stuff.

THANK YOU I can’t believe this needs to be spelled out but apparently it does. GSA doesn’t “overrule the board,” it actually makes the decision because that’s its damn job. All of you were probably cheering when Trump moved all the high level scientists in the Ag Department to Kansas.
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The Greenbelt site is shovel ready, the Springfield site will take years to become buildable.


Everything at the Springfield site - the GSA warehouses - will need to be rebuilt elsewhere. That’s one reason Springfield is such an astronomically expensive option. In addition to demo and site prep.


The Springfield site is also not close the Metro station at all. 3/4 mile I think. So most employees would likely drive to the new HQ. It would be another GSA disaster like that ugly government facility they built at Alexandria’s Mark Center next to Shirley Hwy, far from Metro with humongous parking structures.

Landover would have been another silly choice for similar reasons.

Greenbelt is actually the most logical site.


At this point, if NoVA wants another enormous cluster near them, without ready metro access, that's on them. Have fun with it.


Nova is in the process of redoing the Springfield metro station - they can revise their plans to include a new FBI HQ pretty easily, if the site is chosen. It will all be changing in the next few years, might as well change it one way as another.


How is it “easy” to move a metro station 3/4 of a mile??


The metro is right next to the Springfield site. They. They could create a more direct walking path but it’s certainly not 3/4 miles.


The Springfield site is near the metro train yard, but the station itself is a long walk away. The Greenbelt site is by far more Metro accessible as the selection site criteria determined.


A simple shuttle system running from 6-930a and 3-630p could fix that. Either way, walking isn't as bad as it seems. Comparable to a walk from the edge of the Pentagon parking lot.


So, they will need to:
- Empty and demolish a bunch of warehouses
- rebuild the metro station and/or create a shuttle system

But somehow Springfield is still the better location?


The metro station is already going to be rebuilt. That has nothing to do with this. Although they could work with each other, if any decision is made in a reasonable amount of time.

Yes, the "big problem" with the Springfield site is a bunch of warehouses that need to be relocated. You think that should stop the FBI from getting a new HQ where they want it (close to Quantico and airports)? Some warehouses?

THIS COSTS A BILLION MORE DOLLARS.


That is not the biggest concern - shouldn't the biggest concern (heavily weighted criteria) be the best location for the agency?
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