Wealthy donors pull funding from from Harvard and U Penn for failure to denounce “antisemitism”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These students are not being cancelled for being against war or having a different political opinion. They are being cancelled for celebrating or justifying the deaths, rapes and kidnaps of women and children.

Firms who disagree with their viewpoint have the right not to hire them. These students are also hypocritical and should go work for firms that align with their views. It’s a win win.

I don't think that's the issue. You can choose not to hire a student without issuing press statements, doxxing them, spending millions on smear campaigns. The firms don't go through these steps when they decide not to hire other applicants, what they are doing is discriminatory and illegal in many states.

These firms are using their money and platform to suffocate those they disagree with them. They can do that in their companies, not at US colleges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is Harvard today........

Meh, doesn't seem too atypical for stuff that has gone on at similar colleges for decades. There are always protests, hunger strikes, sit ins, storm admin building etc.

Just the cause of the day changes.

These harvard students can do whatever they like. That’s the beauty of free speech. These donors can also refuse to fund them or give them jobs. Also the beauty of free speech.

+1000

This is an easy question.

Would you hire someone who suggested that "George Floyd got what he deserved"?

Me neither.

I wouldn't work for someone who publicly threatens a University for holding a literary festival. That's bound to be a shitty employer, life is too short.

Sincere question: what if you were a donor and the literary festival included ideas that you found absolutely reprehensible? (speakers who advocated for shooting refugees at the border, for example).

Wouldn't you stop donating?

Of course not! I would use my money to hold other events to influence public opinion. I have never been successful achieving anything long term using threats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These students are not being cancelled for being against war or having a different political opinion. They are being cancelled for celebrating or justifying the deaths, rapes and kidnaps of women and children.

Firms who disagree with their viewpoint have the right not to hire them. These students are also hypocritical and should go work for firms that align with their views. It’s a win win.

I don't think that's the issue. You can choose not to hire a student without issuing press statements, doxxing them, spending millions on smear campaigns. The firms don't go through these steps when they decide not to hire other applicants, what they are doing is discriminatory and illegal in many states.

These firms are using their money and platform to suffocate those they disagree with them. They can do that in their companies, not at US colleges.

The firms are just withholding their money.

The ones doxxing them are other activist groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is Harvard today........

Meh, doesn't seem too atypical for stuff that has gone on at similar colleges for decades. There are always protests, hunger strikes, sit ins, storm admin building etc.

Just the cause of the day changes.

These harvard students can do whatever they like. That’s the beauty of free speech. These donors can also refuse to fund them or give them jobs. Also the beauty of free speech.

+1000

This is an easy question.

Would you hire someone who suggested that "George Floyd got what he deserved"?

Me neither.

I wouldn't work for someone who publicly threatens a University for holding a literary festival. That's bound to be a shitty employer, life is too short.

Sincere question: what if you were a donor and the literary festival included ideas that you found absolutely reprehensible? (speakers who advocated for shooting refugees at the border, for example).

Wouldn't you stop donating?

Of course not! I would use my money to hold other events to influence public opinion. I have never been successful achieving anything long term using threats.

Threat of what? Using your money to hold other events to influence public opinion means diverting your money from events you do view that are contrary to that opinion. I find it hard to believe that in your every day life you would donate to causes you don’t support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These students are not being cancelled for being against war or having a different political opinion. They are being cancelled for celebrating or justifying the deaths, rapes and kidnaps of women and children.

Firms who disagree with their viewpoint have the right not to hire them. These students are also hypocritical and should go work for firms that align with their views. It’s a win win.

I don't think that's the issue. You can choose not to hire a student without issuing press statements, doxxing them, spending millions on smear campaigns. The firms don't go through these steps when they decide not to hire other applicants, what they are doing is discriminatory and illegal in many states.

These firms are using their money and platform to suffocate those they disagree with them. They can do that in their companies, not at US colleges.

If a firm's clients are leaning on them and they choose to handle it in this manner, that is their prerogative. Don't like it, go start your own firm instead of telling people how they should run theirs.

What law firm has spent millions on advocacy campaigns or named students? Stop making stuff up.

If it's happening at all, it's coming from advocacy groups. You know, the types of groups that these students used to engage in the exact same behavior toward their ideological opponents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These students are not being cancelled for being against war or having a different political opinion. They are being cancelled for celebrating or justifying the deaths, rapes and kidnaps of women and children.

Firms who disagree with their viewpoint have the right not to hire them. These students are also hypocritical and should go work for firms that align with their views. It’s a win win.

I don't think that's the issue. You can choose not to hire a student without issuing press statements, doxxing them, spending millions on smear campaigns. The firms don't go through these steps when they decide not to hire other applicants, what they are doing is discriminatory and illegal in many states.

These firms are using their money and platform to suffocate those they disagree with them. They can do that in their companies, not at US colleges.

If a firm's clients are leaning on them and they choose to handle it in this manner, that is their prerogative. Don't like it, go start your own firm instead of telling people how they should run theirs.

What law firm has spent millions on advocacy campaigns or named students? Stop making stuff up.

If it's happening at all, it's coming from advocacy groups. You know, the types of groups that these students used to engage in the exact same behavior toward their ideological opponents.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These students are not being cancelled for being against war or having a different political opinion. They are being cancelled for celebrating or justifying the deaths, rapes and kidnaps of women and children.

Firms who disagree with their viewpoint have the right not to hire them. These students are also hypocritical and should go work for firms that align with their views. It’s a win win.

I don't think that's the issue. You can choose not to hire a student without issuing press statements, doxxing them, spending millions on smear campaigns. The firms don't go through these steps when they decide not to hire other applicants, what they are doing is discriminatory and illegal in many states.

These firms are using their money and platform to suffocate those they disagree with them. They can do that in their companies, not at US colleges.

The firms are just withholding their money.

The ones doxxing them are other activist groups.

Please. These firms have people who do their dirty work for them. They just write a check and tell them to go make life hell for those students. You have to be very naive to think the people at these form would not employ their usual dirty tricks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These students are not being cancelled for being against war or having a different political opinion. They are being cancelled for celebrating or justifying the deaths, rapes and kidnaps of women and children.

Firms who disagree with their viewpoint have the right not to hire them. These students are also hypocritical and should go work for firms that align with their views. It’s a win win.

I don't think that's the issue. You can choose not to hire a student without issuing press statements, doxxing them, spending millions on smear campaigns. The firms don't go through these steps when they decide not to hire other applicants, what they are doing is discriminatory and illegal in many states.

These firms are using their money and platform to suffocate those they disagree with them. They can do that in their companies, not at US colleges.

This. It's the PR mechanism that is illegal and discriminatory. Plus, the framing of it is complete slander as the statements have been misconstrued and falsified in many ways.

It is part of the greater fascism at play. Support Israel or else.....

We see you. And we will not support apartheid. Good thing I'm self employed because failure to support apartheid is now a fireable offense.

[Anonymous]

Meh who cares about these law firms? They pretty much treat associates as their slaves making them do scut work and forcing them to be on call all the time. I think these students are being spared from the agony of working for a law firm. It’s torture for most of them and they only realize it 5 years in. This way they can save their 5 years and actually do something meaningful with their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Another law firm rescinding offers to Harvard and Columbia university students

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/corporations/harvard-letter-israel-columbia-ivy-davis-polk-law-firm-student-rcna120881

Crazy fascism here. It was much the same for vocal critics of the Iraq War. They were ostracized and put out of work.
I hope that we can all tow the line of the thought police. Make sure that every thought is in line with the wealthy white donors of the world.

An alternative take would be to, oh, I don’t know, unequivocally condemn the Hamas atrocities.

There has been a big coordinated push by many influential donors at a number of universities for school administrators to ban any student groups related to Palestinian issues, fire professors who voice opposition to Israel’s Palestinian policies, and expel students who support BDS.

This is all coming to a head right now, the rubber is finally meeting the road. These donors have been threatening to pull their money for a looooong time. See The David Project and other similar groups.

Tbh, I don’t think there is anything Penn could have done short of banning any support for Palestinians on campus, including expelling students and firing professors.

Agree. Jewish groups in this country have a lot of power and influence, especially in finance where they deal with and help their own. I’ve had to sit in a room where Catholics were insulted so it’s naive to assume this is only related to Muslims.

Huh. Jewish groups in this country have space lasers too, you know, in addition to pulling all the strings behind the scenes and exerting our Jewish "influence". Also, we control the weather. You like the weather today? You're welcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These students are not being cancelled for being against war or having a different political opinion. They are being cancelled for celebrating or justifying the deaths, rapes and kidnaps of women and children.

Firms who disagree with their viewpoint have the right not to hire them. These students are also hypocritical and should go work for firms that align with their views. It’s a win win.

I don't think that's the issue. You can choose not to hire a student without issuing press statements, doxxing them, spending millions on smear campaigns. The firms don't go through these steps when they decide not to hire other applicants, what they are doing is discriminatory and illegal in many states.

These firms are using their money and platform to suffocate those they disagree with them. They can do that in their companies, not at US colleges.

This. It's the PR mechanism that is illegal and discriminatory. Plus, the framing of it is complete slander as the statements have been misconstrued and falsified in many ways.

It is part of the greater fascism at play. Support Israel or else.....

We see you. And we will not support apartheid. Good thing I'm self employed because failure to support apartheid is now a fireable offense.

+1

And if these oligarchs feel so strongly about it they should pay for their beloved apartheid/genocide project themselves instead of using our tax dollars that should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare and education in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Harvard today........

Meh, doesn't seem too atypical for stuff that has gone on at similar colleges for decades. There are always protests, hunger strikes, sit ins, storm admin building etc.

Just the cause of the day changes.

These harvard students can do whatever they like. That’s the beauty of free speech. These donors can also refuse to fund them or give them jobs. Also the beauty of free speech.

+1000

This is an easy question.

Would you hire someone who suggested that "George Floyd got what he deserved"?

Me neither.

I wouldn't work for someone who publicly threatens a University for holding a literary festival. That's bound to be a shitty employer, life is too short.

Sincere question: what if you were a donor and the literary festival included ideas that you found absolutely reprehensible? (speakers who advocated for shooting refugees at the border, for example).

Wouldn't you stop donating?

Of course not! I would use my money to hold other events to influence public opinion. I have never been successful achieving anything long term using threats.

Threat of what? Using your money to hold other events to influence public opinion means diverting your money from events you do view that are contrary to that opinion. I find it hard to believe that in your every day life you would donate to causes you don’t support.

A university is not a cause, it's a public square. The donors are donating to further their own interests. I went to college with many people that i disagreed with vehemently, I live in neighborhoods with people that don't share my values and i work with people that don't share my values. That's what it means to coexist in a free society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another law firm rescinding offers to Harvard and Columbia university students

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/corporations/harvard-letter-israel-columbia-ivy-davis-polk-law-firm-student-rcna120881

Crazy fascism here. It was much the same for vocal critics of the Iraq War. They were ostracized and put out of work.
I hope that we can all tow the line of the thought police. Make sure that every thought is in line with the wealthy white donors of the world.

An alternative take would be to, oh, I don’t know, unequivocally condemn the Hamas atrocities.

There has been a big coordinated push by many influential donors at a number of universities for school administrators to ban any student groups related to Palestinian issues, fire professors who voice opposition to Israel’s Palestinian policies, and expel students who support BDS.

This is all coming to a head right now, the rubber is finally meeting the road. These donors have been threatening to pull their money for a looooong time. See The David Project and other similar groups.

Tbh, I don’t think there is anything Penn could have done short of banning any support for Palestinians on campus, including expelling students and firing professors.

Agree. Jewish groups in this country have a lot of power and influence, especially in finance where they deal with and help their own. I’ve had to sit in a room where Catholics were insulted so it’s naive to assume this is only related to Muslims.

Huh. Jewish groups in this country have space lasers too, you know, in addition to pulling all the strings behind the scenes and exerting our Jewish "influence". Also, we control the weather. You like the weather today? You're welcome.

We control the weather so it doesn’t impact our IBS 🤣🤣🤣🤣

IYKYK

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another law firm rescinding offers to Harvard and Columbia university students

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/corporations/harvard-letter-israel-columbia-ivy-davis-polk-law-firm-student-rcna120881

Crazy fascism here. It was much the same for vocal critics of the Iraq War. They were ostracized and put out of work.
I hope that we can all tow the line of the thought police. Make sure that every thought is in line with the wealthy white donors of the world.

An alternative take would be to, oh, I don’t know, unequivocally condemn the Hamas atrocities.

There has been a big coordinated push by many influential donors at a number of universities for school administrators to ban any student groups related to Palestinian issues, fire professors who voice opposition to Israel’s Palestinian policies, and expel students who support BDS.

This is all coming to a head right now, the rubber is finally meeting the road. These donors have been threatening to pull their money for a looooong time. See The David Project and other similar groups.

Tbh, I don’t think there is anything Penn could have done short of banning any support for Palestinians on campus, including expelling students and firing professors.

Agree. Jewish groups in this country have a lot of power and influence, especially in finance where they deal with and help their own. I’ve had to sit in a room where Catholics were insulted so it’s naive to assume this is only related to Muslims.

Antisemitic Canard No. 4,000,000.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:if universities had stayed politically neutral then you’d be right. but they dug themselves this hole by deciding that the university shoild take sides instead of being an institution that creates a space for all sides.

I agree. I’m so disappointed that an institution like Harvard who knows the true history of they bother to understand it can't see past dollar signs. Instead they are gaslighting and trying to blacklist the truth. Every American has the right to free speech whether you agree or disagree.

True, but the donors also have a right to free speech, and part of that is not funding institutions that allow antisemitism to fester. Harvard’s going to be fine financially.