The real Matty Healy

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line - Matty does not want to be Mr. Taylor Swift.


He doesn't. However, he brought her up continuously in interviews/podcasts over the 10 years leading up to TTPD. He definitely has an obsession with her too.


Agreed it's not one-sided but it's like they both don't actually want each other, they want a version of each other that doesn't exist. She wants a version of him that is 100% politically correct and at all times behaves in alignment with her billion-dollar brand (while simultaneously being wild and exciting?) and he wants a version of her that would prioritize her connection with the real him over her billion-dollar brand.


Multiple songs on TTPD addressed she didn’t care if he was politically correct. The “elders down at the city hall” and the “Sarahs and Hannahs” did, however.


She doesn't have to care what they think, though. She has plenty of money. She is the one choosing to put her brand first.


Did you miss the part where he is the Smallest Man Who Ever Lived because he ghosted her?


This exactly. I don’t get why people want them to be together in the end. She is very clear in TTPD that this was a manic phase, he was the miracle move on drug, she writes the worst men the best and she has moved on. It was counterfeit, it died. She was wrecked, likely mourning both relationships simultaneously.
And none of it really matters as much as the way the act of creating helped heal her and the impact it has on others.
I hope she is happy with Travis and feels fulfilled. If not, I hope she is able to find the love she is looking for. And even though it’s none of my business, I’d love if she found it with Harry Styles.


You don’t pay attention to lyrics, do you? The miracle move-on drug in Fortnight is Joe Alwyn, and yes, even Travis now. The one she sings “I love you, it’s ruining my life” to and has tried to get over all those years is Matty Healy. If the song didn’t make that clear to you, try watching the Fortnight video, which is a copy of Part Of The Band video and has a million Matty references. The other men - HS, JS, TK - were/are rebounds/I-am-trying-to-move-on-from-you. Probably even coverups for what was actually going on with MH behind the scenes all those years. Illicit Affairs explains it pretty well. Joe was either willfully ignorant, contractually bound to keep mum, or a total idiot, but regardless, she was hooking up with, chasing and writing about Matty all along. And I think HS was a coverup for her and she a beard for him.

The manic phase prologue is her trying to mitigate her crash out and save face in front of her fans and Travis as she released unhinged songs like Down Bad, Guilty As Sin, Fresh Out The Slammer, But Daddy I Love Him, I Can Do It With A Broken Heart, iamgonnagetyouback etc. about MH on the album. But her lyrics are all I need to hear to know who her heart really wants.

“Just say when, I'd play again
He was my best friend…
I felt more when we played pretend
than with all the Kens.”


Actually, I do listen to lyrics, all of them. And watch videos. I also think there are different ways to interpret them and that the order in which they are written and appear on the album make a difference. She didn’t edit this album much so we are able to see the full range of emotions.

Yes, in that song she says she felt more with him than anyone else. But later in the album she also says that she doesn’t miss what they had and that he didn’t measure up. She also says she’s done waiting. It’s pretty clear that she had a manic rebound with a messy man from her past but it’s also pretty clear that she’s moved on and I think it’s time the Matty stans do the same.
Can’t wait for TS12🫶🏼


I truly like Taylor and Matty individually as artists. The talent and charisma they each possess is unreal. I think the star crossed lovers aspect of their relationship communicating secretly through music and art while pining for each other for 12 or more years from afar is pretty epically romantic and will one day be a movie with a sad ending.

I’m sad for the music we’ll never get now because their best work was about each other and there will never be a collaboration. Though if wishes came true I still don’t think these two belong together in the end. But I also don’t believe she belongs with meathead fame/clout chasing dumb but yet nice guy Travis who prior to her had a specific type that is the polar opposite of her (gorgeous voluptuous smart black women). Before he tried publicly hooking up with Taylor he was openly hitting up Cardi B and other uber famous black women for dates.

I don’t think Travis is sincere and is using her for fame. I think he also leaves her uninspired “So high school” was his one track of 30 or so songs and hands down the worst on the entire double album. I truly hope she doesn’t marry him but I think she will. The love of her life is still out there, she just hasn’t met him yet.

Still Matty /Taylor rabbit hole is fascinating now the world is in on the secret. The whole story is all there in their art, discography and interviews. Its been there the whole time right in front of our noses.


Taylor seems like a pretty complicated/multidimensional person. A part of her probably honestly does want the traditional American marriage/family and she can have that with Travis. I think Travis is astounded that he pulled Taylor and I think he truly is in awe of her. Not sure he is 'using' her but she certainly has been good for him professionally. I don't see her writing super deep lyrics about him though, I agree. It will be interesting because people will be scouring her songs for any hint of lingering Matty obsession.


Travis' "star" was 100% on the rise before hooking up with Taylor. His podcast with his brother was taking off (obviously), he'd done SNL, he inked all kinds of endorsement deals after that first Super Bowl win, etc. That's what happens when you're the best tight end out there on a winning Super Bowl team. I don't think she had anything to do with his other deals.
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Anonymous wrote:^ her new songs, I mean.


TTPD was ostensibly her closing the door on her whatever-it-was with MH so if she keeps writing songs mooning over him she’s going to look completely unhinged. At her age it just isn’t cute anymore.


That door will most likely stay cracked open. How would anyone know any new songs would be about Matty anyway? We went through 10 plus years and five albums that we know of with Taylor sneak referencing him multiple times. Plus 4 more albums on HIS side…. All with songs speaking to each other in code, responding to each other through lyrics and no one knew. None of us. It’s Love story of the ages of two mismatched souls never meant for each other. Serves a book.
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Anonymous wrote:^ her new songs, I mean.


TTPD was ostensibly her closing the door on her whatever-it-was with MH so if she keeps writing songs mooning over him she’s going to look completely unhinged. At her age it just isn’t cute anymore.


Completely agree with you. Unfortunately, there is now a sub group of fans who are going to swirl MH into future music too. It’s like the sub group that finds “hints” that she is not straight in songs.
I think what we read into songs says a lot more about us than it does the artist. In the case of Matty, seems like a lot of people are still hung up on their own messy ex.
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Anonymous wrote:^ her new songs, I mean.


TTPD was ostensibly her closing the door on her whatever-it-was with MH so if she keeps writing songs mooning over him she’s going to look completely unhinged. At her age it just isn’t cute anymore.


The age thing has nothing to do with it and sounds pretty misogynistic. The fact that she is in a committed relationship does have something to do with it, however.
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Anonymous wrote:^ her new songs, I mean.


TTPD was ostensibly her closing the door on her whatever-it-was with MH so if she keeps writing songs mooning over him she’s going to look completely unhinged. At her age it just isn’t cute anymore.


Completely agree with you. Unfortunately, there is now a sub group of fans who are going to swirl MH into future music too. It’s like the sub group that finds “hints” that she is not straight in songs.
I think what we read into songs says a lot more about us than it does the artist. In the case of Matty, seems like a lot of people are still hung up on their own messy ex.


A sub group of haters will too.
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Anonymous wrote:^ her new songs, I mean.


TTPD was ostensibly her closing the door on her whatever-it-was with MH so if she keeps writing songs mooning over him she’s going to look completely unhinged. At her age it just isn’t cute anymore.


Or it was also opening a door. I don't think she was/is sure. But she knew one result of the album would be to soften the public up to "them." I don't think she has any idea whether she will or wants to be with him, but if they reconcile, there will be people who this time accept them due to the story she told in TTPD of "cosmic love" (and a very small number of people hooked on the story who will cheer them on).

At at least home they reconcile enough to write/release songs, even if married to other people.
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Anonymous wrote:^ her new songs, I mean.


TTPD was ostensibly her closing the door on her whatever-it-was with MH so if she keeps writing songs mooning over him she’s going to look completely unhinged. At her age it just isn’t cute anymore.


Or it was also opening a door. I don't think she was/is sure. But she knew one result of the album would be to soften the public up to "them." I don't think she has any idea whether she will or wants to be with him, but if they reconcile, there will be people who this time accept them due to the story she told in TTPD of "cosmic love" (and a very small number of people hooked on the story who will cheer them on).

At at least home they reconcile enough to write/release songs, even if married to other people.


write and release songs together - I'll be annoyed if there are more longing back and forth lyrics.
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I too am curious to see what her next album will hold. More Matty songs - while she’s in a steady relationship and he’s engaged to another woman - is getting a little “I won’t be IGNORED, Dan.”
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Anonymous wrote:Is Lover about Matty Healy too?
“And I'm highly suspicious that everyone who sees you wants you” is the same as in Slut! “Everyone wants him, that was my crime.”
In Gold Rush too, “Eyes like sinking ships…Everybody wants you, everybody wonders what it would be like to love you.”

So much lore.


Halsey in 2017:
“To my lover, I'd never lie
He said, "Be true", I swear I'll try.”

Taylor on Lover in 2019:
“Swear to be…true to my lover.”
🫣
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Anonymous wrote:^ her new songs, I mean.


TTPD was ostensibly her closing the door on her whatever-it-was with MH so if she keeps writing songs mooning over him she’s going to look completely unhinged. At her age it just isn’t cute anymore.


It was a desperate cry-out to him: she finally admitted in front of her fans and the world how she feels about Matty. So now we all know who her love songs over the years were about. If she was over him, she would have written The Smallest Man and been done. But there are at least 15 other songs on that album alone that tell a different story.
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He inspired some great songs, but enough already. It is veering into bunny-boiler territory.
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Anonymous wrote:I too am curious to see what her next album will hold. More Matty songs - while she’s in a steady relationship and he’s engaged to another woman - is getting a little “I won’t be IGNORED, Dan.”


Getting papped a lot while holding hands with someone is a far cry from a steady relationship. Celebs in steady relationships don't constantly tip off the paps.
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I am a rational person with multiple science degrees, and at this point even I am convinced that in addition to obvious songs like Cardigan, The 1, Question, Cowboy Like Me, Illicit Affairs, Maroon, and the majority of TTPD, most of Reputation and Lover were secretly written for Matty Healy too. The way he was belting out Lover at all the Eras concerts he attended, hand over his heart: no way someone with a big ego like him would’ve done it if he knew the song was about Joe Alwyn. Besides, Joe is handsome and all, but he is neither a magnetic force of a man nor can I picture him saving any dirty jokes for anyone.
Cruel Summer, The Archer, Death By A Thousand Cuts, Paper Rings, False God, It’s Nice To Have A Friend, Afterglow, Eng Game, Don’t Blame Me, Ready For It, Dancing With Our Hands Tied, So It Goes, King Of My Heart are all Matty Healy coded.
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Anonymous wrote:I am a rational person with multiple science degrees, and at this point even I am convinced that in addition to obvious songs like Cardigan, The 1, Question, Cowboy Like Me, Illicit Affairs, Maroon, and the majority of TTPD, most of Reputation and Lover were secretly written for Matty Healy too. The way he was belting out Lover at all the Eras concerts he attended, hand over his heart: no way someone with a big ego like him would’ve done it if he knew the song was about Joe Alwyn. Besides, Joe is handsome and all, but he is neither a magnetic force of a man nor can I picture him saving any dirty jokes for anyone.
Cruel Summer, The Archer, Death By A Thousand Cuts, Paper Rings, False God, It’s Nice To Have A Friend, Afterglow, Eng Game, Don’t Blame Me, Ready For It, Dancing With Our Hands Tied, So It Goes, King Of My Heart are all Matty Healy coded.


Agreed and even if those songs are not All That Deep, and rather just using him as a writing muse, she can't really do that now. Well she can but, weird.

Other topics and themes she covers are the price of fame, friends, politics, the Kardashians. Maybe we will get more of that. And football. And being a WAG.
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Anonymous wrote:I am a rational person with multiple science degrees, and at this point even I am convinced that in addition to obvious songs like Cardigan, The 1, Question, Cowboy Like Me, Illicit Affairs, Maroon, and the majority of TTPD, most of Reputation and Lover were secretly written for Matty Healy too. The way he was belting out Lover at all the Eras concerts he attended, hand over his heart: no way someone with a big ego like him would’ve done it if he knew the song was about Joe Alwyn. Besides, Joe is handsome and all, but he is neither a magnetic force of a man nor can I picture him saving any dirty jokes for anyone.
Cruel Summer, The Archer, Death By A Thousand Cuts, Paper Rings, False God, It’s Nice To Have A Friend, Afterglow, Eng Game, Don’t Blame Me, Ready For It, Dancing With Our Hands Tied, So It Goes, King Of My Heart are all Matty Healy coded.


Agreed and even if those songs are not All That Deep, and rather just using him as a writing muse, she can't really do that now. Well she can but, weird.

Other topics and themes she covers are the price of fame, friends, politics, the Kardashians. Maybe we will get more of that. And football. And being a WAG.


Ugh. Friend songs are always good, but otherwise, UGH
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