Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:The only sane person in the video is the guy in scrubs.

Whose immediate response was to defend the screaming/crying lady and suggest the guy just give her the bike.

because she was on it and trying to rent it while being physically blocked. The lady just worked a shift, FFS let her go home. Young healthy kids can walk or get a different bike.

Guy paid for it. Lady, get another bike.
Or maybe all employers should offer free rides home after work?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, I don’t think this kind of viral mobbing is going to work anymore. This video doesn’t come close to showing what the full story was. Women have the right to be scared of men and ask for help.

True and if you are really scared you leave the situation. The same way others told him to take the loss of the rental, she could have walked away and got help.

Let's be honest, even without knowing the entire story, she clearly is NOT afraid.

I agree. Neither of them are remotely afraid. He’s trying to physically intimidate her, but she’s not intimidated. She’s trying to call for help to force him to back off, but he’s not intimidated by that either.

However, he did scan the code of the bike she was on, to try to prevent her from taking it.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what you are supposed to do if someone walks up and tries to physically shove you off a bike you are renting while their friends surround you, laugh at you, and start filming you?

Like is your only option to just get off the bike, let them have it, and not complain or speak of it? Is that the only way to avoid being accused of weaponizing your tears, being called racist, or people claiming you are trying to get the people who bullied you off the bike shot or arrested?

I'm just trying to figure out if this woman had ANY options that would be deemed acceptable other than just letting these kids take the bike and walking away. I think the answer is no.

I have never been accused of weaponizing my tears because I don't act like this woman. Yes, walking away when you're dead wrong is the right thing to do. And yes, these kids should have filmed this encounter because black men know that that they are the last to be believed. Just look at how some of you are trying to defend her.

Laughing? Why, yes. She is acting like a toddler so the correct response is to laugh.

I actually completely believe that you wouldn’t stand up for yourself in this situation. You’d probably let them take the bike under your account.

Is that what you read. I believe I see what your problem is. You see things as you want them to be rather than as they are. She was in the wrong and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away because she knew she was wrong. That is quite different than standing up for yourself when you're being mistreated (which she wasn't)

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Asking for help and fake crying aren’t helping her case.

Ok. If you were in the process of renting a bike and another person with a group of people surrounded you and tried to push you off the bike, and then scanned it out from under you, all while one of his friends started filming you and the whole group is talking and laughing at you, what would you do?

I have no idea what I would do. I think I'd be frustrated and confused. I might try to say help if I thought someone nearby might help the situation or if I thought saying help might scare the boys into leaving me alone. I might cry in frustration. When I cry out of frustration, I don't know that tears fall down my cheeks. Some crying is tearful, some is not.

It is really insane to me that even now that it's clear she was not trying to steal his bike, people are still criticizing her reaction. She didn't do anything wrong!

This doesn't happen. She pushes him. She steals his phone. Both of these things are crimes. She 100% did something wrong, whatever happened with the bike before the video starts.

She's on the bike, he is grabbing the bike and trying to take it from her. How is she pushing him? He's physically trying to push her away from the bike with his entire body. She does push back while saying "get off me" because his behavior is really inappropriate.

She's sitting on the bike. Why is she sitting on the bike if it's "his" bike? How can she push him off a bike she is sitting on?

She does not "steal" his phone. She grabs at his phone as he uses it to scan the QR code. She is trying to prevent him from scanning the bike she is on. That's not stealing.

Someone told you "this video shows X" and you are now convinced it shows X even though if you actually watch it without preconceptions, it shows Y.

She's pushing into him for almost the whole video. If you don't see that I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what happened with the bike at first and I'm not going to make any claims about what's happening overall, but the idea that he's shoving her when he's standing still and she's pushing into him is just crazy.

SHE'S ON THE BIKE. What you are calling "pushing into him" is what I see as "existing in the space she was occupying before this kid decided he wants the bike she was on."

Like if I'm standing on the street and you decide you want to be standing where I am standing, and you try to physically put your body in the space I am occupying, I am not "pushing you" when I don't simply get out of your way.

She moves into his space! He's holding still and she's moving. I give up. Y'all are delusional and can't see the very basic facts about what's going on in the video.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so off the rails.

Read a mainstream news source:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-hospital-worker-yells-at-young-black-men-over-alleged-stolen-citi-bike-viral-video/4337081/

None of this tracks with the garbage in this thread. Why are some of you SO invested in proving this woman innocent? Oh wait, I know the answer to that.

That’s a ridiculous article. For starters it ignores that he actually is touching her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.

Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.

Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.

They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.

Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.

Why would she still have her phone in her hand when he was physically blocking the code?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Asking for help and fake crying aren’t helping her case.

Ok. If you were in the process of renting a bike and another person with a group of people surrounded you and tried to push you off the bike, and then scanned it out from under you, all while one of his friends started filming you and the whole group is talking and laughing at you, what would you do?

I have no idea what I would do. I think I'd be frustrated and confused. I might try to say help if I thought someone nearby might help the situation or if I thought saying help might scare the boys into leaving me alone. I might cry in frustration. When I cry out of frustration, I don't know that tears fall down my cheeks. Some crying is tearful, some is not.

It is really insane to me that even now that it's clear she was not trying to steal his bike, people are still criticizing her reaction. She didn't do anything wrong!

This doesn't happen. She pushes him. She steals his phone. Both of these things are crimes. She 100% did something wrong, whatever happened with the bike before the video starts.

She's on the bike, he is grabbing the bike and trying to take it from her. How is she pushing him? He's physically trying to push her away from the bike with his entire body. She does push back while saying "get off me" because his behavior is really inappropriate.

She's sitting on the bike. Why is she sitting on the bike if it's "his" bike? How can she push him off a bike she is sitting on?

She does not "steal" his phone. She grabs at his phone as he uses it to scan the QR code. She is trying to prevent him from scanning the bike she is on. That's not stealing.

Someone told you "this video shows X" and you are now convinced it shows X even though if you actually watch it without preconceptions, it shows Y.

She's pushing into him for almost the whole video. If you don't see that I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what happened with the bike at first and I'm not going to make any claims about what's happening overall, but the idea that he's shoving her when he's standing still and she's pushing into him is just crazy.

SHE'S ON THE BIKE. What you are calling "pushing into him" is what I see as "existing in the space she was occupying before this kid decided he wants the bike she was on."

Like if I'm standing on the street and you decide you want to be standing where I am standing, and you try to physically put your body in the space I am occupying, I am not "pushing you" when I don't simply get out of your way.

She moves into his space! He's holding still and she's moving. I give up. Y'all are delusional and can't see the very basic facts about what's going on in the video.

I agree with you. She’s pushing against HIM to try to get him off the QR code.

But why is he on her QR code??

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Fake crying with fake shaking makes her look like a liar. It wasn’t real crying.

This guy is pressing into her with her body, grabbing the bike she's on, preventing her from scanning it.

But the conversation is around whether or not her crying is convincing enough.

Did you watch the video? That’s not what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Asking for help and fake crying aren’t helping her case.

Ok. If you were in the process of renting a bike and another person with a group of people surrounded you and tried to push you off the bike, and then scanned it out from under you, all while one of his friends started filming you and the whole group is talking and laughing at you, what would you do?

I have no idea what I would do. I think I'd be frustrated and confused. I might try to say help if I thought someone nearby might help the situation or if I thought saying help might scare the boys into leaving me alone. I might cry in frustration. When I cry out of frustration, I don't know that tears fall down my cheeks. Some crying is tearful, some is not.

It is really insane to me that even now that it's clear she was not trying to steal his bike, people are still criticizing her reaction. She didn't do anything wrong!

This doesn't happen. She pushes him. She steals his phone. Both of these things are crimes. She 100% did something wrong, whatever happened with the bike before the video starts.

She's on the bike, he is grabbing the bike and trying to take it from her. How is she pushing him? He's physically trying to push her away from the bike with his entire body. She does push back while saying "get off me" because his behavior is really inappropriate.

She's sitting on the bike. Why is she sitting on the bike if it's "his" bike? How can she push him off a bike she is sitting on?

She does not "steal" his phone. She grabs at his phone as he uses it to scan the QR code. She is trying to prevent him from scanning the bike she is on. That's not stealing.

Someone told you "this video shows X" and you are now convinced it shows X even though if you actually watch it without preconceptions, it shows Y.

She's pushing into him for almost the whole video. If you don't see that I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what happened with the bike at first and I'm not going to make any claims about what's happening overall, but the idea that he's shoving her when he's standing still and she's pushing into him is just crazy.

SHE'S ON THE BIKE. What you are calling "pushing into him" is what I see as "existing in the space she was occupying before this kid decided he wants the bike she was on."

Like if I'm standing on the street and you decide you want to be standing where I am standing, and you try to physically put your body in the space I am occupying, I am not "pushing you" when I don't simply get out of your way.

She moves into his space! He's holding still and she's moving. I give up. Y'all are delusional and can't see the very basic facts about what's going on in the video.

She is *sitting on the bike* and he has his arm blocking her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, I don’t think this kind of viral mobbing is going to work anymore. This video doesn’t come close to showing what the full story was. Women have the right to be scared of men and ask for help.

True and if you are really scared you leave the situation. The same way others told him to take the loss of the rental, she could have walked away and got help.

Let's be honest, even without knowing the entire story, she clearly is NOT afraid.

Disagree, and you have no idea what she is feeling in that moment. Personally I don't think she has to be "afraid" to be right -- they are trying to take the bike she was in the process of renting. The kid is not entitled to the bike. He doesn't rent it until she is already on it. She doesn't need to be afraid, she's correct.

But I also think it's absolutely possible she is afraid in that moment. People are not film actors. They do not display their emotions on their faces in carefully composed and perfectly readable ways. For instance, I am someone who cries when I'm angry. People always think I'm sad when actually, I'm pissed. Meanwhile, my husband has a notoriously unreadable face and people sometimes think he's mad or bored when he's relaxed and enjoying himself. He's a regular person, not Timothee Chalamet, so he has not practiced his facial expressions in the mirror to ensure they always perfectly reflect his mental state.

One thing you notice throughout the video is that she has a very flat affect. That could be the result of her flattening her response because she IS afraid and is shutting down emotional expression in order to stay focused on what is happening. It could also just be how she always is -- flat affect is a side affect of depression and other conditions, and can also happen when people are on a wide variety of prescription drugs including SSRIs. Or she could just be really, really tired. Flat affect does not mean you aren't afraid or don't have feelings -- it means your face is not conveying anything at all.

You don't know how she feels.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what you are supposed to do if someone walks up and tries to physically shove you off a bike you are renting while their friends surround you, laugh at you, and start filming you?

Like is your only option to just get off the bike, let them have it, and not complain or speak of it? Is that the only way to avoid being accused of weaponizing your tears, being called racist, or people claiming you are trying to get the people who bullied you off the bike shot or arrested?

I'm just trying to figure out if this woman had ANY options that would be deemed acceptable other than just letting these kids take the bike and walking away. I think the answer is no.

I have never been accused of weaponizing my tears because I don't act like this woman. Yes, walking away when you're dead wrong is the right thing to do. And yes, these kids should have filmed this encounter because black men know that that they are the last to be believed. Just look at how some of you are trying to defend her.

Laughing? Why, yes. She is acting like a toddler so the correct response is to laugh.

I actually completely believe that you wouldn’t stand up for yourself in this situation. You’d probably let them take the bike under your account.

Is that what you read. I believe I see what your problem is. You see things as you want them to be rather than as they are. She was in the wrong and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away because she knew she was wrong. That is quite different than standing up for yourself when you're being mistreated (which she wasn't)

She was in the RIGHT and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away and taken another bike. But she was pissed because he scanned the bike she was on, to take it from her.

She should never have done it. She should have walked away.

But he was the bully stealing her bike.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.

Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.

Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.

They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.

Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.

The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.

Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.

Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.

They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.

Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.

The video doesn’t show when he scanned the QR code. He might have scanned it after she sat down. Or scanned it then turned his back. Unclear what the situation was when she sat down.

Except that if he’d paid before she sat down, it would have already been unlocked, instead of unlocking during the video.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she fake crying, if she wants to be taken seriously?

Yes why is this victim not responding more gracefully to these bullies?

Why is that bully crying and screaming? While the victims try to calmly speak with her.

Why are they refusing to let her scan the bike she’s on? Explain.

Why is she refusing to get off the bike they scanned? Explain.

They scanned it after she was already on it. Literally they scan it in the video while she is sitting on it.

Everyone is convinced that this guy rented the bike before the video starts but he very clearly rents the bike midway through the video after preventing her from scanning the bike herself by covering the scanner with his hand. It's right there in the video.

Why didn't this kid just rent another bike. Explain.

Clearly he was renting the bike as it was activated and had the app open. She got on it and claimed it was hers. She didn’t even have her phone out or make any attempt to book the bike. Wouldn’t surprise me if she doesn’t even have the app.

Why didn’t she just rent another bike if she even could. Explain.

What are you saying "activated". The bike is not "activated".

He scans the QR code with his phone while she is on the bike. It then comes out of the dock. It is only at that point that he and his friends start saying "it's his bike". Because he has muscled his way past her to scan the bike even after this woman has gotten on the bike. So now it is "his" bike but only because he's shoved passed her to scan it, while also covering the QR code so she cannot scan it.

People keep saying she's trying to steal his bike but she isn't trying to steal anything -- these are rentals. She's trying to rent the bike herself and says as much. It's just that he restrains her (blocks her body with his arm and covers the screen with his hand) so that he can rent it first. How does that equate to her "stealing" "his" bike?

And ultimately she does get off and go rent another bike. But she should not have had to. She was already on this bike, there is no reason that he needed to rent this one. He could have gone and rented another bike.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what you are supposed to do if someone walks up and tries to physically shove you off a bike you are renting while their friends surround you, laugh at you, and start filming you?

Like is your only option to just get off the bike, let them have it, and not complain or speak of it? Is that the only way to avoid being accused of weaponizing your tears, being called racist, or people claiming you are trying to get the people who bullied you off the bike shot or arrested?

I'm just trying to figure out if this woman had ANY options that would be deemed acceptable other than just letting these kids take the bike and walking away. I think the answer is no.

I have never been accused of weaponizing my tears because I don't act like this woman. Yes, walking away when you're dead wrong is the right thing to do. And yes, these kids should have filmed this encounter because black men know that that they are the last to be believed. Just look at how some of you are trying to defend her.

Laughing? Why, yes. She is acting like a toddler so the correct response is to laugh.

I actually completely believe that you wouldn’t stand up for yourself in this situation. You’d probably let them take the bike under your account.

Is that what you read. I believe I see what your problem is. You see things as you want them to be rather than as they are. She was in the wrong and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away because she knew she was wrong. That is quite different than standing up for yourself when you're being mistreated (which she wasn't)

She was in the RIGHT and threw a tantrum. She should have walked away and taken another bike. But she was pissed because he scanned the bike she was on, to take it from her.

She should never have done it. She should have walked away.

But he was the bully stealing her bike.

But he is the only one showing the code to prove that he had in fact scanned it. Why doesn't she do the same if she was in the right? because she was wrong.