After all the drama, Big3 college admissions are really as strong as ever this year

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

Am I the only one that actually thinks the %age going to top 20 schools should be much higher than 50%?

Curious if anyone knows the %age from 10 or 20 years ago.

No. Why should going to a freaking $50,000/year private high school entitle you to go to a top 20 school?

You are missing the point…OP is bragging that the school did so well with top 20 admissions…I thought they were going to say 80%+ were accepted Top 20…50% is fine, but I bet it was much higher in previous years.

How did the NCS arrive at the 20% Ivy statistic?

My understanding is that NCS usually has 70-75 graduating seniors. So far, 66 NCS students have posted their college destinations. Of the 66 students, 8 (12%) are heading to Ivies. Are we to believe that the remaining 4 students are all heading to the Ivies? Even if the 4 students, who haven’t posted, are attending Ivies in the fall that still brings the total for future NCS Ivy Leaguers to only 17%.

I personally know two NCS seniors who haven't posted on IG = one is going to Harvard; the other to Yale

Ok, but that still doesn’t add up to 20% of NCS students going to Ivies. That would bring the total to 14% of students, which is good, but it’s definitely not 20% of the graduating class.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

Am I the only one that actually thinks the %age going to top 20 schools should be much higher than 50%?

Curious if anyone knows the %age from 10 or 20 years ago.

No. Why should going to a freaking $50,000/year private high school entitle you to go to a top 20 school?

You are missing the point…OP is bragging that the school did so well with top 20 admissions…I thought they were going to say 80%+ were accepted Top 20…50% is fine, but I bet it was much higher in previous years.

How did the NCS arrive at the 20% Ivy statistic?

My understanding is that NCS usually has 70-75 graduating seniors. So far, 66 NCS students have posted their college destinations. Of the 66 students, 8 (12%) are heading to Ivies. Are we to believe that the remaining 4 students are all heading to the Ivies? Even if the 4 students, who haven’t posted, are attending Ivies in the fall that still brings the total for future NCS Ivy Leaguers to only 17%.

I personally know two NCS seniors who haven't posted on IG = one is going to Harvard; the other to Yale

Ok, but that still doesn’t add up to 20% of NCS students going to Ivies. That would bring the total to 14% of students, which is good, but it’s definitely not 20% of the graduating class.

Maret has 11 Ivies out of 47 posts. 23.40%

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

Am I the only one that actually thinks the %age going to top 20 schools should be much higher than 50%?

Curious if anyone knows the %age from 10 or 20 years ago.

No. Why should going to a freaking $50,000/year private high school entitle you to go to a top 20 school?

You are missing the point…OP is bragging that the school did so well with top 20 admissions…I thought they were going to say 80%+ were accepted Top 20…50% is fine, but I bet it was much higher in previous years.

How did the NCS arrive at the 20% Ivy statistic?

My understanding is that NCS usually has 70-75 graduating seniors. So far, 66 NCS students have posted their college destinations. Of the 66 students, 8 (12%) are heading to Ivies. Are we to believe that the remaining 4 students are all heading to the Ivies? Even if the 4 students, who haven’t posted, are attending Ivies in the fall that still brings the total for future NCS Ivy Leaguers to only 17%.

I personally know two NCS seniors who haven't posted on IG = one is going to Harvard; the other to Yale

Ok, but that still doesn’t add up to 20% of NCS students going to Ivies. That would bring the total to 14% of students, which is good, but it’s definitely not 20% of the graduating class.

Maret has 11 Ivies out of 47 posts. 23.40%

How many graduating seniors does Maret have? The number of Ivies should be based on the total number of students, not the number of students who posted.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

Am I the only one that actually thinks the %age going to top 20 schools should be much higher than 50%?

Curious if anyone knows the %age from 10 or 20 years ago.

No. Why should going to a freaking $50,000/year private high school entitle you to go to a top 20 school?

You are missing the point…OP is bragging that the school did so well with top 20 admissions…I thought they were going to say 80%+ were accepted Top 20…50% is fine, but I bet it was much higher in previous years.

How did the NCS arrive at the 20% Ivy statistic?

My understanding is that NCS usually has 70-75 graduating seniors. So far, 66 NCS students have posted their college destinations. Of the 66 students, 8 (12%) are heading to Ivies. Are we to believe that the remaining 4 students are all heading to the Ivies? Even if the 4 students, who haven’t posted, are attending Ivies in the fall that still brings the total for future NCS Ivy Leaguers to only 17%.

I personally know two NCS seniors who haven't posted on IG = one is going to Harvard; the other to Yale

Ok, but that still doesn’t add up to 20% of NCS students going to Ivies. That would bring the total to 14% of students, which is good, but it’s definitely not 20% of the graduating class.

Maret has 11 Ivies out of 47 posts. 23.40%

How many graduating seniors does Maret have? The number of Ivies should be based on the total number of students, not the number of students who posted.

FFS they already have more Ivy bound students than NCS both in % and absolute values.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

Am I the only one that actually thinks the %age going to top 20 schools should be much higher than 50%?

Curious if anyone knows the %age from 10 or 20 years ago.

No. Why should going to a freaking $50,000/year private high school entitle you to go to a top 20 school?

You are missing the point…OP is bragging that the school did so well with top 20 admissions…I thought they were going to say 80%+ were accepted Top 20…50% is fine, but I bet it was much higher in previous years.

How did the NCS arrive at the 20% Ivy statistic?

My understanding is that NCS usually has 70-75 graduating seniors. So far, 66 NCS students have posted their college destinations. Of the 66 students, 8 (12%) are heading to Ivies. Are we to believe that the remaining 4 students are all heading to the Ivies? Even if the 4 students, who haven’t posted, are attending Ivies in the fall that still brings the total for future NCS Ivy Leaguers to only 17%.

I personally know two NCS seniors who haven't posted on IG = one is going to Harvard; the other to Yale

Ok, but that still doesn’t add up to 20% of NCS students going to Ivies. That would bring the total to 14% of students, which is good, but it’s definitely not 20% of the graduating class.

Maret has 11 Ivies out of 47 posts. 23.40%

How many graduating seniors does Maret have? The number of Ivies should be based on the total number of students, not the number of students who posted.

FFS they already have more Ivy bound students than NCS both in % and absolute values.

Very rational response. You all need to step away from this topic. It’s a beautiful day. Put down your calculators and go outside.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is at NCS.
From what I can tell:
20% Ivies
10% U of Chicago
10% other top 20 universities
10% top 10 liberal arts colleges
Etc.
That is 50% of the class into TOP20 colleges/universities. Minimum.

Even with the deflated GPAs (well under 4.0), almost no APs, etc.

STA is similar.
Sidwell has pretty much gotten the entire class in top50 schools.
GDS is a bit uneven.

Am I the only one that actually thinks the %age going to top 20 schools should be much higher than 50%?

Curious if anyone knows the %age from 10 or 20 years ago.

No. Why should going to a freaking $50,000/year private high school entitle you to go to a top 20 school?

You are missing the point…OP is bragging that the school did so well with top 20 admissions…I thought they were going to say 80%+ were accepted Top 20…50% is fine, but I bet it was much higher in previous years.

How did the NCS arrive at the 20% Ivy statistic?

My understanding is that NCS usually has 70-75 graduating seniors. So far, 66 NCS students have posted their college destinations. Of the 66 students, 8 (12%) are heading to Ivies. Are we to believe that the remaining 4 students are all heading to the Ivies? Even if the 4 students, who haven’t posted, are attending Ivies in the fall that still brings the total for future NCS Ivy Leaguers to only 17%.

I personally know two NCS seniors who haven't posted on IG = one is going to Harvard; the other to Yale

Ok, but that still doesn’t add up to 20% of NCS students going to Ivies. That would bring the total to 14% of students, which is good, but it’s definitely not 20% of the graduating class.

Maret has 11 Ivies out of 47 posts. 23.40%

How many graduating seniors does Maret have? The number of Ivies should be based on the total number of students, not the number of students who posted.

FFS they already have more Ivy bound students than NCS both in % and absolute values.

Very rational response. You all need to step away from this topic. It’s a beautiful day. Put down your calculators and go outside.

Yes, thanks for being rational!
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[Anonymous]

Please remember that at all of these schools - the elite admissions are VERY heavily skewed to students with a hook. It isn't the school (which Big 3 or 5 or 7) that is getting the kids in, it's the hook (the HS is NOT the hook).

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^ This.
I bet that 90% of Maret's Ivy admits are hooked. The ones I know definitely are.

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Anonymous wrote:Please remember that at all of these schools - the elite admissions are VERY heavily skewed to students with a hook. It isn't the school (which Big 3 or 5 or 7) that is getting the kids in, it's the hook (the HS is NOT the hook).

Yes and no. The school provides the transcript that lets the elite college say that the hooked kid is “just as good” as the unhooked kid they turned away. No class ranking, no APs, and obscure course names like “Math 1” muddy the water, making that comparison harder, which is sometimes just what the hooked kid needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Please remember that at all of these schools - the elite admissions are VERY heavily skewed to students with a hook. It isn't the school (which Big 3 or 5 or 7) that is getting the kids in, it's the hook (the HS is NOT the hook).

Yes and no. The school provides the transcript that lets the elite college say that the hooked kid is “just as good” as the unhooked kid they turned away. No class ranking, no APs, and obscure course names like “Math 1” muddy the water, making that comparison harder, which is sometimes just what the hooked kid needs.

Yes - the AOs do not seem to be taking into account the difference in work that is required (or the difference in how hard grading is ) between "Math #" series and traditional math courses (or science 1/science 1A) for two "just as good" candidates.

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Anonymous wrote:Please remember that at all of these schools - the elite admissions are VERY heavily skewed to students with a hook. It isn't the school (which Big 3 or 5 or 7) that is getting the kids in, it's the hook (the HS is NOT the hook).

Yes and no. The school provides the transcript that lets the elite college say that the hooked kid is “just as good” as the unhooked kid they turned away. No class ranking, no APs, and obscure course names like “Math 1” muddy the water, making that comparison harder, which is sometimes just what the hooked kid needs.

Yes - the AOs do not seem to be taking into account the difference in work that is required (or the difference in how hard grading is ) between "Math #" series and traditional math courses (or science 1/science 1A) for two "just as good" candidates.

Schools get 90,000 applications. The readers are paid hourly. The admissions offices are staffed by graduates of that school who were at the bottom of the class themselves.

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Who cares if anyone of these schools' college admissions are as strong as admission?

These parents aren't sending their beloveds to the BIG 3 for entrance into top colleges. They are sending them for hte love of learning. As long as they got that love of learning, who cares how many end up at the super elite colleges.
Amiright?

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if anyone of these schools' college admissions are as strong as admission?

These parents aren't sending their beloveds to the BIG 3 for entrance into top colleges. They are sending them for hte love of learning. As long as they got that love of learning, who cares how many end up at the super elite colleges.
Amiright?

You are right. Unless the kid is hooked. But then, they could have gone anywhere for HS, so it must be they chose the HS for the experience of the HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Please remember that at all of these schools - the elite admissions are VERY heavily skewed to students with a hook. It isn't the school (which Big 3 or 5 or 7) that is getting the kids in, it's the hook (the HS is NOT the hook).

Yes and no. The school provides the transcript that lets the elite college say that the hooked kid is “just as good” as the unhooked kid they turned away. No class ranking, no APs, and obscure course names like “Math 1” muddy the water, making that comparison harder, which is sometimes just what the hooked kid needs.

Yes - the AOs do not seem to be taking into account the difference in work that is required (or the difference in how hard grading is ) between "Math #" series and traditional math courses (or science 1/science 1A) for two "just as good" candidates.

Schools get 90,000 applications. The readers are paid hourly. The admissions offices are staffed by graduates of that school who were at the bottom of the class themselves.

Agreed - but this is why it would help if these schools were better at communicating rigor via a transcript. To (just for colleges) create a weighted rank that takes into account rigor of a Math 1 (Chem 1) student who gets an A- (with far more work expected) compared to the Geometry or Algebra II (Chem 1A) student getting the same A- (or even an A).

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares if anyone of these schools' college admissions are as strong as admission?

These parents aren't sending their beloveds to the BIG 3 for entrance into top colleges. They are sending them for hte love of learning. As long as they got that love of learning, who cares how many end up at the super elite colleges.
Amiright?

This BIG 3 parent doesn't care so much about which college, but it does matter when the information they send to colleges doesn't communicate the more rigorous (post AP world) schedule and grade achievement in a more tangible, quickly accessible way.