MCPS High School 7:45am for teens is to early

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are skeptical about teenagers needing more sleep and their changing circadian rhythms should ask your children’s doctor or any teen psychologist that you know. See what they say about later high school start times and whether MCPS is behind the curve on this issue

I know they almost need as much sleep as younger children, but that's why I make my teens go to bed early. It's not that hard if you take the phones away.

Amen sister. No screens at all after 9pm in our house. If they need to finish their homework maybe but next time they need to budget time earlier in the day. Or get up earlier in the morning to finish.

I did this at the advice of our pediatrician, FWIW.

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Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

The more people adopt the "drive them to school" plan, the worse the "drive them to school" plan will work.

+1 Exactly. Maybe if your school is a mile or two away from your home, but driving for most of us doesn't provide that much more sleep for kids and cuts into our work day.

So this is really about your needs not theirs. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

The more people adopt the "drive them to school" plan, the worse the "drive them to school" plan will work.

+1 Exactly. Maybe if your school is a mile or two away from your home, but driving for most of us doesn't provide that much more sleep for kids and cuts into our work day.

So this is really about your needs not theirs. Got it.

Probably the kids need their parents to stay employed so that there's money for food on their table, clothes on their backs/shoes on their feet, and a roof over their heads. No?

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

This. Change would be such a drag, and unnecessary except for fringe interests . Just be a parent and b my she sure your kids get sleep and set alarms. Not hard.

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

The more people adopt the "drive them to school" plan, the worse the "drive them to school" plan will work.

+1 Exactly. Maybe if your school is a mile or two away from your home, but driving for most of us doesn't provide that much more sleep for kids and cuts into our work day.

So this is really about your needs not theirs. Got it.

Probably the kids need their parents to stay employed so that there's money for food on their table, clothes on their backs/shoes on their feet, and a roof over their heads. No?

If the complaint is school starts too early, most parents, not all are home at that hour. So, you don't want to get up early to drive your kids and then want to complain about it. Are you working at 7:45? Probably not. And, if you are, isn't it good your kids are in school in a safe place?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are skeptical about teenagers needing more sleep and their changing circadian rhythms should ask your children’s doctor or any teen psychologist that you know. See what they say about later high school start times and whether MCPS is behind the curve on this issue

I know they almost need as much sleep as younger children, but that's why I make my teens go to bed early. It's not that hard if you take the phones away.

Amen sister. No screens at all after 9pm in our house. If they need to finish their homework maybe but next time they need to budget time earlier in the day. Or get up earlier in the morning to finish.

I did this at the advice of our pediatrician, FWIW.

You must have young kids. You realize most MS and HS kids do their homework online now?

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

Because they would also change their times, because otherwise nobody would be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

The more people adopt the "drive them to school" plan, the worse the "drive them to school" plan will work.

+1 Exactly. Maybe if your school is a mile or two away from your home, but driving for most of us doesn't provide that much more sleep for kids and cuts into our work day.

So this is really about your needs not theirs. Got it.

Probably the kids need their parents to stay employed so that there's money for food on their table, clothes on their backs/shoes on their feet, and a roof over their heads. No?

If the complaint is school starts too early, most parents, not all are home at that hour. So, you don't want to get up early to drive your kids and then want to complain about it. Are you working at 7:45? Probably not. And, if you are, isn't it good your kids are in school in a safe place?

DCUM: What do you mean, school starts too early? I have to be at work at oh dark forty!
Also DCUM: I bet you're not at work that early, you lazy parent who doesn't want to drive your kid!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

Because they would also change their times, because otherwise nobody would be there.

Maybe they can take away the MCPS swim at the county pools to free up time for the time change that they caused? Seems the best solution to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

So, that would have our kids staying up even later, which makes no sense. But, we are responsible parents who enforce bed times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

So, that would have our kids staying up even later, which makes no sense. But, we are responsible parents who enforce bed times.

Who cares if everyone else is inconvenience! My kid likes to stay up late watching tiktok and the early start times are a problem for them.