Waitlisted at TJ - now what?

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Anonymous wrote:Relax. Not the end of the world. Many TJ kids attending dame school as my non TJ senior. Except mine didn’t get the amount of stress Tj kids went through. Be a strong student at a base school. Tj is way over rated.

It is the end of the world. They had planned on TJ their whole life and now are denied this. I blame the activists!

So I feel like this is probably intended to be posted in sarcasm. If it is, bravo.

One of the best things that could possibly happen to TJ would be for it to experience a significant drop in prestige without a reduction in the caliber of the education that is provided.

Regardless of whether it's the number one high school in America, it will still have unparalleled opportunities for STEM-interested and STEM-capable students and will still provide a phenomenal environment for them to collaborate.

The prestige element creates an unhealthy obsession among a very narrow sub-segment of the Northern Virginia population that frankly leads to devastating outcomes for their children regardless of whether or not they get into TJ.

One thing I have noticed in the past year is a significant increase in the number of non-toxic Asian families within the Class of 2025. These folks are creating a new narrative within the school and proving once and for all that the toxicity at TJ was never about race but about attitudes. I can't wait to see how the new Class of 2026 builds on this new narrative, as we enter a reality where half the school is selected by the new admissions process.

One of the things i have noticed in the past two years is ignoramuses like this PP speaking with authority on TJ. She knows nothing about TJ but her toxic hatred for Asians permeates through every single post. I fear for TJ if hate-mongers like this PP are allowed to pretend that they speak for TJ/FCPS. She needs a racial sensitivity class for sure.

Did you even read the post? The historic toxicity at TJ has nothing to do with race and everything to do with attitudes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Relax. Not the end of the world. Many TJ kids attending dame school as my non TJ senior. Except mine didn’t get the amount of stress Tj kids went through. Be a strong student at a base school. Tj is way over rated.

It is the end of the world. They had planned on TJ their whole life and now are denied this. I blame the activists!

So I feel like this is probably intended to be posted in sarcasm. If it is, bravo.

One of the best things that could possibly happen to TJ would be for it to experience a significant drop in prestige without a reduction in the caliber of the education that is provided.

Regardless of whether it's the number one high school in America, it will still have unparalleled opportunities for STEM-interested and STEM-capable students and will still provide a phenomenal environment for them to collaborate.

The prestige element creates an unhealthy obsession among a very narrow sub-segment of the Northern Virginia population that frankly leads to devastating outcomes for their children regardless of whether or not they get into TJ.

One thing I have noticed in the past year is a significant increase in the number of non-toxic Asian families within the Class of 2025. These folks are creating a new narrative within the school and proving once and for all that the toxicity at TJ was never about race but about attitudes. I can't wait to see how the new Class of 2026 builds on this new narrative, as we enter a reality where half the school is selected by the new admissions process.

One of the things i have noticed in the past two years is ignoramuses like this PP speaking with authority on TJ. She knows nothing about TJ but her toxic hatred for Asians permeates through every single post. I fear for TJ if hate-mongers like this PP are allowed to pretend that they speak for TJ/FCPS. She needs a racial sensitivity class for sure.

Very true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Relax. Not the end of the world. Many TJ kids attending dame school as my non TJ senior. Except mine didn’t get the amount of stress Tj kids went through. Be a strong student at a base school. Tj is way over rated.

It is the end of the world. They had planned on TJ their whole life and now are denied this. I blame the activists!

So I feel like this is probably intended to be posted in sarcasm. If it is, bravo.

One of the best things that could possibly happen to TJ would be for it to experience a significant drop in prestige without a reduction in the caliber of the education that is provided.

Regardless of whether it's the number one high school in America, it will still have unparalleled opportunities for STEM-interested and STEM-capable students and will still provide a phenomenal environment for them to collaborate.

The prestige element creates an unhealthy obsession among a very narrow sub-segment of the Northern Virginia population that frankly leads to devastating outcomes for their children regardless of whether or not they get into TJ.

One thing I have noticed in the past year is a significant increase in the number of non-toxic Asian families within the Class of 2025. These folks are creating a new narrative within the school and proving once and for all that the toxicity at TJ was never about race but about attitudes. I can't wait to see how the new Class of 2026 builds on this new narrative, as we enter a reality where half the school is selected by the new admissions process.

One of the things i have noticed in the past two years is ignoramuses like this PP speaking with authority on TJ. She knows nothing about TJ but her toxic hatred for Asians permeates through every single post. I fear for TJ if hate-mongers like this PP are allowed to pretend that they speak for TJ/FCPS. She needs a racial sensitivity class for sure.

Did you even read the post? The historic toxicity at TJ has nothing to do with race and everything to do with attitudes.

You said "One thing I have noticed in the past year is a significant increase in the number of non-toxic Asian families within the Class of 2025."

You could have instead said "One thing I have noticed in the past year is a significant increase in the number of non-toxic families within the Class of 2025." You would have conveyed your point fairly comprehensively.

You saw need to highlight the "Asian" element of toxicity.

Yes, I read the post. And I can easily identify you in all your posts by the Asian antipathy that runs through all of them.

[Anonymous]

I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

Classic racist trope about Asians.

By the way, Facts suggest otherwise. Asians are rather successful. Go out in the world and talk to some Asians. If you keep and open mind, your prejudice will likely go away. At least I hope so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

Classic racist trope about Asians.

By the way, Facts suggest otherwise. Asians are rather successful. Go out in the world and talk to some Asians. If you keep and open mind, your prejudice will likely go away. At least I hope so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Although OP may have hyperbolized his statement, it is unfortunately largely true. Most of the highly educated caucasians opt to go to private schools. The stereotypes that have haunted TJ and the reputation that it currently holds repels many so called “American” families.

[Anonymous]

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1) Colleges do NOT limit their admissions from TJ - they limit their admissions from Northern Virginia.

They do? I thought they got rid of the geographic diversity criteria which was introduced over 100 years ago at Ivies to keep down the number of Jews.

They re-introduced it to keep down the number of Asians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So according to the PP’s claim of 5-8 to Yale every year from a class of 75, is 13:57 claiming that TJ had more than 40-64 going to Yale in the past year? Similar data for Harvard I would assume, I guess TJ’s objective of inclusivity and an influx of URMs with their new admissions really benefited TJs matriculation…. Oh wait, that was only implemented last year

Yale is not the only top 10 school in the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Relax. Not the end of the world. Many TJ kids attending dame school as my non TJ senior. Except mine didn’t get the amount of stress Tj kids went through. Be a strong student at a base school. Tj is way over rated.

It is the end of the world. They had planned on TJ their whole life and now are denied this. I blame the activists!

So I feel like this is probably intended to be posted in sarcasm. If it is, bravo.

One of the best things that could possibly happen to TJ would be for it to experience a significant drop in prestige without a reduction in the caliber of the education that is provided.

Regardless of whether it's the number one high school in America, it will still have unparalleled opportunities for STEM-interested and STEM-capable students and will still provide a phenomenal environment for them to collaborate.

The prestige element creates an unhealthy obsession among a very narrow sub-segment of the Northern Virginia population that frankly leads to devastating outcomes for their children regardless of whether or not they get into TJ.

One thing I have noticed in the past year is a significant increase in the number of non-toxic Asian families within the Class of 2025. These folks are creating a new narrative within the school and proving once and for all that the toxicity at TJ was never about race but about attitudes. I can't wait to see how the new Class of 2026 builds on this new narrative, as we enter a reality where half the school is selected by the new admissions process.

One of the things i have noticed in the past two years is ignoramuses like this PP speaking with authority on TJ. She knows nothing about TJ but her toxic hatred for Asians permeates through every single post. I fear for TJ if hate-mongers like this PP are allowed to pretend that they speak for TJ/FCPS. She needs a racial sensitivity class for sure.

Did you even read the post? The historic toxicity at TJ has nothing to do with race and everything to do with attitudes.

You said "One thing I have noticed in the past year is a significant increase in the number of non-toxic Asian families within the Class of 2025."

You could have instead said "One thing I have noticed in the past year is a significant increase in the number of non-toxic families within the Class of 2025." You would have conveyed your point fairly comprehensively.

You saw need to highlight the "Asian" element of toxicity.

Yes, I read the post. And I can easily identify you in all your posts by the Asian antipathy that runs through all of them.

If I had made the statement that you suggested, it would be easily attacked as "you're saying there are more non-toxic families because there are fewer Asian families".

The point of my statement is to assert, as forcefully as I know how, that Asian families are NOT by their nature toxic. Because they aren't, any more than anyone else.

The toxicity at TJ was a direct result of an admissions process that incentivized a very specific approach to academics that was highly competitive and highly streamlined - and THAT's what created the toxicity at TJ. In a very real way, it is also directly responsible for the awful trope that Asian families exhibit toxic behavior.

Hopefully, the elimination of this deeply flawed process will have a positive impact on how Asian families are perceived in this area; TJ will remain majority-Asian and very highly regarded but the families involved are trending in a very positive direction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

Classic racist trope about Asians.

By the way, Facts suggest otherwise. Asians are rather successful. Go out in the world and talk to some Asians. If you keep and open mind, your prejudice will likely go away. At least I hope so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Although OP may have hyperbolized his statement, it is unfortunately largely true. Most of the highly educated caucasians opt to go to private schools. The stereotypes that have haunted TJ and the reputation that it currently holds repels many so called “American” families.

Look at the Wikipedia link. The median income of Asian- Americans is 50% more than White Americans. That is largely because Asians prioritize education over everything else. That also explains the Asian American unhappiness in NYC, SFO and NoVA over the proxy-quotas they are being subjected to at magnet schools. This carries over to the Asian American discrimination cases in front of the Supreme Court as well.

The point is while many fortunate and driven Caucasians (and indeed AAs and Latinx) will head to privates, on the whole as a community Asians will continue to prioritize education and "fight" for opportunities like TJ. And data shows that Asian Americans are better off as a community. There are rich people (as measured by 90% percentile) of all races but its the median that matters when you describe a community. And prioritizing education is the only way to improve the median (a formula that Asians have figured out). Playing sports, et al at the cost of education is overhyped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

Classic racist trope about Asians.

By the way, Facts suggest otherwise. Asians are rather successful. Go out in the world and talk to some Asians. If you keep and open mind, your prejudice will likely go away. At least I hope so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Although OP may have hyperbolized his statement, it is unfortunately largely true. Most of the highly educated caucasians opt to go to private schools. The stereotypes that have haunted TJ and the reputation that it currently holds repels many so called “American” families.

Look at the Wikipedia link. The median income of Asian- Americans is 50% more than White Americans. That is largely because Asians prioritize education over everything else. That also explains the Asian American unhappiness in NYC, SFO and NoVA over the proxy-quotas they are being subjected to at magnet schools. This carries over to the Asian American discrimination cases in front of the Supreme Court as well.

The point is while many fortunate and driven Caucasians (and indeed AAs and Latinx) will head to privates, on the whole as a community Asians will continue to prioritize education and "fight" for opportunities like TJ. And data shows that Asian Americans are better off as a community. There are rich people (as measured by 90% percentile) of all races but its the median that matters when you describe a community. And prioritizing education is the only way to improve the median (a formula that Asians have figured out). Playing sports, et al at the cost of education is overhyped.

1) Sixty percent of the incoming class of 2026 remains Asian.

2) If your view is one that playing sports and doing other such extracurricular activities are a) things that are done "at the cost of education" or b) are "overhyped", your perspective is not one that needs large representation in elite universities or in public policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

Classic racist trope about Asians.

By the way, Facts suggest otherwise. Asians are rather successful. Go out in the world and talk to some Asians. If you keep and open mind, your prejudice will likely go away. At least I hope so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Although OP may have hyperbolized his statement, it is unfortunately largely true. Most of the highly educated caucasians opt to go to private schools. The stereotypes that have haunted TJ and the reputation that it currently holds repels many so called “American” families.

Look at the Wikipedia link. The median income of Asian- Americans is 50% more than White Americans. That is largely because Asians prioritize education over everything else. That also explains the Asian American unhappiness in NYC, SFO and NoVA over the proxy-quotas they are being subjected to at magnet schools. This carries over to the Asian American discrimination cases in front of the Supreme Court as well.

The point is while many fortunate and driven Caucasians (and indeed AAs and Latinx) will head to privates, on the whole as a community Asians will continue to prioritize education and "fight" for opportunities like TJ. And data shows that Asian Americans are better off as a community. There are rich people (as measured by 90% percentile) of all races but its the median that matters when you describe a community. And prioritizing education is the only way to improve the median (a formula that Asians have figured out). Playing sports, et al at the cost of education is overhyped.

1) Sixty percent of the incoming class of 2026 remains Asian.

2) If your view is one that playing sports and doing other such extracurricular activities are a) things that are done "at the cost of education" or b) are "overhyped", your perspective is not one that needs large representation in elite universities or in public policy.

This is the attitude that got McAuliffe in trouble. I decide what is important for my kids and the free market determines outcomes by way of median salaries.

Anyways unless yopu have been appointed as the spokesperson by elite universities, your opinion is a sample size of one - your opinion.

And what I said was is when playing sports is at the cost of education. I am not implying that there is always a tradeoff. Families can and should decide how much to tradeoff education with sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

Classic racist trope about Asians.

By the way, Facts suggest otherwise. Asians are rather successful. Go out in the world and talk to some Asians. If you keep and open mind, your prejudice will likely go away. At least I hope so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Although OP may have hyperbolized his statement, it is unfortunately largely true. Most of the highly educated caucasians opt to go to private schools. The stereotypes that have haunted TJ and the reputation that it currently holds repels many so called “American” families.

Look at the Wikipedia link. The median income of Asian- Americans is 50% more than White Americans. That is largely because Asians prioritize education over everything else. That also explains the Asian American unhappiness in NYC, SFO and NoVA over the proxy-quotas they are being subjected to at magnet schools. This carries over to the Asian American discrimination cases in front of the Supreme Court as well.

The point is while many fortunate and driven Caucasians (and indeed AAs and Latinx) will head to privates, on the whole as a community Asians will continue to prioritize education and "fight" for opportunities like TJ. And data shows that Asian Americans are better off as a community. There are rich people (as measured by 90% percentile) of all races but its the median that matters when you describe a community. And prioritizing education is the only way to improve the median (a formula that Asians have figured out). Playing sports, et al at the cost of education is overhyped.

1) Sixty percent of the incoming class of 2026 remains Asian.

2) If your view is one that playing sports and doing other such extracurricular activities are a) things that are done "at the cost of education" or b) are "overhyped", your perspective is not one that needs large representation in elite universities or in public policy.

60% is discrimination?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

Classic racist trope about Asians.

By the way, Facts suggest otherwise. Asians are rather successful. Go out in the world and talk to some Asians. If you keep and open mind, your prejudice will likely go away. At least I hope so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Although OP may have hyperbolized his statement, it is unfortunately largely true. Most of the highly educated caucasians opt to go to private schools. The stereotypes that have haunted TJ and the reputation that it currently holds repels many so called “American” families.

Look at the Wikipedia link. The median income of Asian- Americans is 50% more than White Americans. That is largely because Asians prioritize education over everything else. That also explains the Asian American unhappiness in NYC, SFO and NoVA over the proxy-quotas they are being subjected to at magnet schools. This carries over to the Asian American discrimination cases in front of the Supreme Court as well.

The point is while many fortunate and driven Caucasians (and indeed AAs and Latinx) will head to privates, on the whole as a community Asians will continue to prioritize education and "fight" for opportunities like TJ. And data shows that Asian Americans are better off as a community. There are rich people (as measured by 90% percentile) of all races but its the median that matters when you describe a community. And prioritizing education is the only way to improve the median (a formula that Asians have figured out). Playing sports, et al at the cost of education is overhyped.

1) Sixty percent of the incoming class of 2026 remains Asian.

2) If your view is one that playing sports and doing other such extracurricular activities are a) things that are done "at the cost of education" or b) are "overhyped", your perspective is not one that needs large representation in elite universities or in public policy.

This is the attitude that got McAuliffe in trouble. I decide what is important for my kids and the free market determines outcomes by way of median salaries.

Anyways unless yopu have been appointed as the spokesperson by elite universities, your opinion is a sample size of one - your opinion.

And what I said was is when playing sports is at the cost of education. I am not implying that there is always a tradeoff. Families can and should decide how much to tradeoff education with sports.

Very, very few families play sports at the cost of education, and none of them have an interest in TJ.

The free market also decides who gets into elite schools - at least the private ones. They decide who they want to admit based on what is in the best interest of the university. If that's not your child, that's your problem, not theirs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate to say this, but there’s a reason why TJ has no appeal to the whites and only appeals to the asian community…. The upbringing, these poor kids go onto college without knowing any social skills and are left in the dust thinking they can compete in the real world. Asian parents who come from abroad need to learn that their American born children need to play sports, learn how to interact with others, etc… sad phenomenon

Classic racist trope about Asians.

By the way, Facts suggest otherwise. Asians are rather successful. Go out in the world and talk to some Asians. If you keep and open mind, your prejudice will likely go away. At least I hope so

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Although OP may have hyperbolized his statement, it is unfortunately largely true. Most of the highly educated caucasians opt to go to private schools. The stereotypes that have haunted TJ and the reputation that it currently holds repels many so called “American” families.

Wow. Just wow. That's what whites said and did when schools got desegregated. Sad that racial and ethnic stereotypes still guide what white people do - gotta keep their Larla and Larlo from "them" or "those people."