How did Herndon/Westfield HS go from top to bottom?

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Anonymous wrote:My god some of you really need to take a look at this map. On all sides the Hutchinson site is surrounded by low income areas. Clearview, lake Anne, Herndon to the north and Dogwood/Coates to the south. Other poster is correct in asserting that Hutchinson HS will be the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax. And in turn the closest areas from overcrowded Centreville/Chantilly to Westfield are the low income areas of Brookfield/Centre ridge/Bull Run. It seems all but likely that Hutchinson HS will be built and Westfield HS will be triaged to improve the other pyramids in Western Fairfax.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Elementary%20School%20Boundaries%20With%20High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Elementary%20School%20Boundaries%20With%20High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

Except that's not how they'd draw the boundaries.

They aren't going to load up Western HS with all those schools. More likely it would be Hutchison, Coates, McNair, part of Floris, Oak Hill, and Fox Mill.

Pulling Hutchison out of Herndon will allow them to move Forestville and part of Great Falls to Herndon. That would reduce the concentration of poverty at Herndon and create space at Langley to accommodate growth further east planned in Tysons.

Pulling Coates, McNair, and part of Floris out of Westfield would allow them to move Bull Run from Centreville and potentially move Willow Springs out of Fairfax to Centreville.

Moving Oak Hill out of Chantilly would relieve overcrowding there.

Pulling Fox Mill out of South Lakes would enable South Lakes, if necessary, to take more of Crossfield if Oakton were overcrowded.

Of course this is conjecture, but (1) they won't create "Mount Vernon West" if they build at Hutchison and (2) any new high school will inevitably result in many boundary changes.

We will have to check back on this thread in four years to see who is right! Will proximity and the standard of concentrating Poverty be the standard or will the school board truly embrace an “equity” model for once?

We won't know in four years. Maybe eight if they plan ahead.

But the "Hutchison, Coates, McNair, part of Floris, Oak Hill, and Fox Mill" model isn't one or the other. It would be a relatively compact and contiguous area that might be somewhat higher than average FARMS for FCPS but not at Mount Vernon/Lewis/Justice levels with two high-FARMS feeders (Hutchison, Coates), one average FARMS feeder (McNair), and two and a half low-FARMS feeders (Oak Hill, Fox Mill and 1/2 of Floris).

But even more compact and closer would be including Dogwood/Herndon/Clearview. Wouldn’t it? South Lakes PTA/Chantilly PTA/ Herndon PTA will fight like hell, especially south lakes after they fought so hard for Fox mill/Floris.It isn’t fair to those neighborhoods as this would become their FOURTH redistricting in as many years from Oakton>Westfield>South Lakes>Hutchinson, why must we keep moving around high performing Asians who can’t advocate for themselves, to mask the failure to educate hispanic kids from Herndon/Reston?

I don't think compactness should override some demographic balance, especially when we are talking about a set of schools that would also create a contiguous, relatively compact attendance area.

Herndon ES and Clearview ES are very close to Herndon HS, so there's not much of a case to be made for moving them. Assigning Dogwood to the new school, along with Hutchison and Coates, would concentrate poverty at the new school, and in any event Dogwood is in Reston and has close ties to South Lakes.

Yes, some neighborhoods that would be reassigned have been redistricted before. That was part of the original rationale for a new high school in the Floris/Oak Hill area - to finally have a high school closer to those neighborhoods and put an end to the frequent redistricting. But, in any case, it wouldn't be their fourth redistricting "in as many years" or that they might not be redistricted yet again if a new school isn't built.

If they build a new high school near Hutchison, there will be people happy with the opportunity to send their kids to a brand-new school that may also be closer to their homes. There will be people happy with the effect that it might have on other schools like Herndon. There will be people who are indifferent. And there will be people who are opposed and will keep trying to kill this school and/or a Hutchison location long before it's built. Right now, some have an ally in Elaine Tholen, who has already demonstrated that she puts the interests of Great Falls over those of everyone else in her district, but she's unpopular, barely survived a recall petition, and will likely be gone by the time any final decisions are made about the new school or its boundaries.

But one way or the other, given all the housing approved near the Silver Line extension, they will have to sort it out and decide if they are prepared to have multiple high schools in western Fairfax with close to 3000 kids or more, all because some people are so averse to sending their kids to school with poorer kids.

Bringing down Forestville/Great Falls to Herndon HS with only removing Hutchinson will turn Herndon HS into McLean HS level overcapacity. Why are people who are literally ONE MILE from Hutchinson HS form Clearview/Herndon ES still going to Herndon HS instead of Hutchinson? At minimum you need to add Herndon ES to Hutchinson HS to relieve Herndon HS. Pulling that and advocating for relatively far away Oak Hill to Hutchinson is just stretching things to achieve racial/economical balance. You purposefully skipped over Dogwood to take Fox Mill when the former is closer. Simply saying Dogwood is in Reston for an excuse as such is just lazy. Armstrong ES has a Reston address and yet is justly and rightly zoned for Herndon HS which is four times closer than it is to the next closest that is South Lakes, aka the "Reston School".

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Anonymous wrote:My god some of you really need to take a look at this map. On all sides the Hutchinson site is surrounded by low income areas. Clearview, lake Anne, Herndon to the north and Dogwood/Coates to the south. Other poster is correct in asserting that Hutchinson HS will be the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax. And in turn the closest areas from overcrowded Centreville/Chantilly to Westfield are the low income areas of Brookfield/Centre ridge/Bull Run. It seems all but likely that Hutchinson HS will be built and Westfield HS will be triaged to improve the other pyramids in Western Fairfax.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Elementary%20School%20Boundaries%20With%20High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Elementary%20School%20Boundaries%20With%20High%20School%20Boundaries.pdf

Except that's not how they'd draw the boundaries.

They aren't going to load up Western HS with all those schools. More likely it would be Hutchison, Coates, McNair, part of Floris, Oak Hill, and Fox Mill.

Pulling Hutchison out of Herndon will allow them to move Forestville and part of Great Falls to Herndon. That would reduce the concentration of poverty at Herndon and create space at Langley to accommodate growth further east planned in Tysons.

Pulling Coates, McNair, and part of Floris out of Westfield would allow them to move Bull Run from Centreville and potentially move Willow Springs out of Fairfax to Centreville.

Moving Oak Hill out of Chantilly would relieve overcrowding there.

Pulling Fox Mill out of South Lakes would enable South Lakes, if necessary, to take more of Crossfield if Oakton were overcrowded.

Of course this is conjecture, but (1) they won't create "Mount Vernon West" if they build at Hutchison and (2) any new high school will inevitably result in many boundary changes.

We will have to check back on this thread in four years to see who is right! Will proximity and the standard of concentrating Poverty be the standard or will the school board truly embrace an “equity” model for once?

We won't know in four years. Maybe eight if they plan ahead.

But the "Hutchison, Coates, McNair, part of Floris, Oak Hill, and Fox Mill" model isn't one or the other. It would be a relatively compact and contiguous area that might be somewhat higher than average FARMS for FCPS but not at Mount Vernon/Lewis/Justice levels with two high-FARMS feeders (Hutchison, Coates), one average FARMS feeder (McNair), and two and a half low-FARMS feeders (Oak Hill, Fox Mill and 1/2 of Floris).

But even more compact and closer would be including Dogwood/Herndon/Clearview. Wouldn’t it? South Lakes PTA/Chantilly PTA/ Herndon PTA will fight like hell, especially south lakes after they fought so hard for Fox mill/Floris.It isn’t fair to those neighborhoods as this would become their FOURTH redistricting in as many years from Oakton>Westfield>South Lakes>Hutchinson, why must we keep moving around high performing Asians who can’t advocate for themselves, to mask the failure to educate hispanic kids from Herndon/Reston?

I don't think compactness should override some demographic balance, especially when we are talking about a set of schools that would also create a contiguous, relatively compact attendance area.

Herndon ES and Clearview ES are very close to Herndon HS, so there's not much of a case to be made for moving them. Assigning Dogwood to the new school, along with Hutchison and Coates, would concentrate poverty at the new school, and in any event Dogwood is in Reston and has close ties to South Lakes.

Yes, some neighborhoods that would be reassigned have been redistricted before. That was part of the original rationale for a new high school in the Floris/Oak Hill area - to finally have a high school closer to those neighborhoods and put an end to the frequent redistricting. But, in any case, it wouldn't be their fourth redistricting "in as many years" or that they might not be redistricted yet again if a new school isn't built.

If they build a new high school near Hutchison, there will be people happy with the opportunity to send their kids to a brand-new school that may also be closer to their homes. There will be people happy with the effect that it might have on other schools like Herndon. There will be people who are indifferent. And there will be people who are opposed and will keep trying to kill this school and/or a Hutchison location long before it's built. Right now, some have an ally in Elaine Tholen, who has already demonstrated that she puts the interests of Great Falls over those of everyone else in her district, but she's unpopular, barely survived a recall petition, and will likely be gone by the time any final decisions are made about the new school or its boundaries.

But one way or the other, given all the housing approved near the Silver Line extension, they will have to sort it out and decide if they are prepared to have multiple high schools in western Fairfax with close to 3000 kids or more, all because some people are so averse to sending their kids to school with poorer kids.

Bringing down Forestville/Great Falls to Herndon HS with only removing Hutchinson will turn Herndon HS into McLean HS level overcapacity. Why are people who are literally ONE MILE from Hutchinson HS form Clearview/Herndon ES still going to Herndon HS instead of Hutchinson? At minimum you need to add Herndon ES to Hutchinson HS to relieve Herndon HS. Pulling that and advocating for relatively far away Oak Hill to Hutchinson is just stretching things to achieve racial/economical balance. You purposefully skipped over Dogwood to take Fox Mill when the former is closer. Simply saying Dogwood is in Reston for an excuse as such is just lazy. Armstrong ES has a Reston address and yet is justly and rightly zoned for Herndon HS which is four times closer than it is to the next closest that is South Lakes, aka the "Reston School".

You really should save that level of anxiety and invective for when, you know, there's actually a site fully assembled at a specific location to build a real school, not the Minecraft version being discussed now.

But I am very confident that, whatever happens, FCPS is not going to build a new high school, assign all three of Hutchison, Coates and Dogwood to that school, and exclude Oak Hill and/or Fox Mill. They are crass and often outright venal, but not that stupid.

As for pulling Hutchison out of Herndon but adding Forestville and part of Great Falls, note that Hutchison has a current enrollment of 1073, whereas Forestville has 565 students and Great Falls 534. While you'd have to make other adjustments based on students attending AAP centers to know the exact number of kids living within the boundaries of those schools, it might actually reduce Herndon's enrollment, especially if, as suggested, only part of Great Falls were reassigned.

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Anonymous wrote:Us Oak Hill Residents(Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield, Oak Hill) really need to have a citizen's association and collude with Great Falls Citizens Association to ensure none of us go to what will very likely become the Western Mount Vernon High, just for diversity reasons.

Stop. You’re just a sh*t stirrer. Did you not see where the projected growth is? Do you understand that your snowflake’s academic performance will not suffer by mixing with lower SES people? Or that the color of someone’s skin won’t rub off on you?

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Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

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Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

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Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

Democrat School Boards are spending $40M on an unnecessarily large expansion of West Potomac so kids don't have to attend Mount Vernon, which has extra capacity. So what makes you think they'd create a "Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax" when there are other options.

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Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

Democrat School Boards are spending $40M on an unnecessarily large expansion of West Potomac so kids don't have to attend Mount Vernon, which has extra capacity. So what makes you think they'd create a "Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax" when there are other options.

Look at what they did to Woodson/Annandale. Two schools so close, and one got All the pools shoved there and the other one got all the middle class kids.Langley/Herndon same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

Democrat School Boards are spending $40M on an unnecessarily large expansion of West Potomac so kids don't have to attend Mount Vernon, which has extra capacity. So what makes you think they'd create a "Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax" when there are other options.

Look at what they did to Woodson/Annandale. Two schools so close, and one got All the pools shoved there and the other one got all the middle class kids.Langley/Herndon same thing.

Annandale was a different situation.

When FCPS decided to close Jefferson and reopen TJ as a STEM magnet, one of their initial promises to the Jefferson community (which wasn't thrilled to be losing their high school) was that everyone at Jefferson could move to Annandale. That led to overcrowding Annandale, and also to concentrate all the low-income housing off Route 236 at Annandale, rather than splitting it between two schools (Jefferson and Annandale) as had been the case previously.

Then, in response to Annandale's overcrowding they made a series of incremental boundary changes that pulled single-family neighborhoods out of Annandale to Falls Church (Columbia Pines), Lake Braddock (Ravensworth), Woodson (Wakefield Forest), and then Edison (Edsall Park and Bren Mar Park), while only moving a few apartment complexes to Edison. The result over time was to concentrate poverty at Annandale and even more so at Poe Middle.

It wasn't all sunshine for Woodson, either, since shortly after FCPS moved the part of Wakefield Forest that had been attending Annandale to Woodson the City of Fairfax demanded that FCPS pull county kids out of Fairfax HS, which led to reassigning Fairfax Villa ES to Woodson and creating crowded conditions there.

But, in any case, no one specifically sought ought to draw Annandale's boundaries from the inception to just include lower-income feeders.

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Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

If you combine all Five of those you get 790 as a class size with 58 percent FARMS rate
Take out McNair it’s a manageable 616 kids as the class size with a 68 percent FARMS rate.

For reference Mount Vernon HS is only 60 percent FARMS………
So yes such a Western HS will end up potentially having the highest FARMS HS in the entire county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

Democrat School Boards are spending $40M on an unnecessarily large expansion of West Potomac so kids don't have to attend Mount Vernon, which has extra capacity. So what makes you think they'd create a "Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax" when there are other options.

Look at what they did to Woodson/Annandale. Two schools so close, and one got All the pools shoved there and the other one got all the middle class kids.Langley/Herndon same thing.

Annandale was a different situation.

When FCPS decided to close Jefferson and reopen TJ as a STEM magnet, one of their initial promises to the Jefferson community (which wasn't thrilled to be losing their high school) was that everyone at Jefferson could move to Annandale. That led to overcrowding Annandale, and also to concentrate all the low-income housing off Route 236 at Annandale, rather than splitting it between two schools (Jefferson and Annandale) as had been the case previously.

Then, in response to Annandale's overcrowding they made a series of incremental boundary changes that pulled single-family neighborhoods out of Annandale to Falls Church (Columbia Pines), Lake Braddock (Ravensworth), Woodson (Wakefield Forest), and then Edison (Edsall Park and Bren Mar Park), while only moving a few apartment complexes to Edison. The result over time was to concentrate poverty at Annandale and even more so at Poe Middle.

It wasn't all sunshine for Woodson, either, since shortly after FCPS moved the part of Wakefield Forest that had been attending Annandale to Woodson the City of Fairfax demanded that FCPS pull county kids out of Fairfax HS, which led to reassigning Fairfax Villa ES to Woodson and creating crowded conditions there.

But, in any case, no one specifically sought ought to draw Annandale's boundaries from the inception to just include lower-income feeders.

But they also did it to Lewis. And not moving kids to Mt. Vernon is basically the same. So are you sure it is not done with some intention? Sheila some schools at the expense of others?

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Sheilding

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Damn. "Shielding". Brain not working tonight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

If you combine all Five of those you get 790 as a class size with 58 percent FARMS rate
Take out McNair it’s a manageable 616 kids as the class size with a 68 percent FARMS rate.

For reference Mount Vernon HS is only 60 percent FARMS………
So yes such a Western HS will end up potentially having the highest FARMS HS in the entire county.

Which is why they are not going to assign that combination of schools to Western High, as has been pointed out repeatedly.

You seem to think you’re making a clever argument, but you’re not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

If you combine all Five of those you get 790 as a class size with 58 percent FARMS rate
Take out McNair it’s a manageable 616 kids as the class size with a 68 percent FARMS rate.

For reference Mount Vernon HS is only 60 percent FARMS………
So yes such a Western HS will end up potentially having the highest FARMS HS in the entire county.

Which is why they are not going to assign that combination of schools to Western High, as has been pointed out repeatedly.

You seem to think you’re making a clever argument, but you’re not.

This was just to show that is very ***possible*** to create a Western Mount Vernon HS caliber school against those saying otherwise. Why bus kids from Oak Hill/Fox Mill when you have nearby Herndon and Dogwood. But hey if one wants to waste millions in extra fuel costs just to achieve racial and economic balancing at the expense of hiring and raising teacher pay, I dare say and bet the way I think the school board will proceed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Using VDOE statistics for current 6th graders, it appears a new high school drawing from the current 6th graders from Coates, Fox Mill, Hutchison, McNair, Oak Hill, and 1/2 of Floris would look about like this:

Class size - @ 560-570 kids

FARMS rate: @ 33.5% (slightly above current county-wide rate)

Ethnic composition: Asian 36.7%, Hispanic 27.3%, White 22.4%, Black 9.2%, Multi-Racial 4.4%

So, like Centreville and Chantilly now, it would have a plurality Asian population and would not resemble Mount Vernon, which is currently both majority FARMS and majority Hispanic.

Ok Now do Coates, McNair, Hutchinson, Herndon, Dogwood and you will find the Mount Vernon of Western Fairfax.

If you combine all Five of those you get 790 as a class size with 58 percent FARMS rate
Take out McNair it’s a manageable 616 kids as the class size with a 68 percent FARMS rate.

For reference Mount Vernon HS is only 60 percent FARMS………
So yes such a Western HS will end up potentially having the highest FARMS HS in the entire county.

Which is why they are not going to assign that combination of schools to Western High, as has been pointed out repeatedly.

You seem to think you’re making a clever argument, but you’re not.

This was just to show that is very ***possible*** to create a Western Mount Vernon HS caliber school against those saying otherwise. Why bus kids from Oak Hill/Fox Mill when you have nearby Herndon and Dogwood. But hey if one wants to waste millions in extra fuel costs just to achieve racial and economic balancing at the expense of hiring and raising teacher pay, I dare say and bet the way I think the school board will proceed.

If long bus trips offend you, you should be a lot more concerned about kids traveling 13 miles to Langley now than about the possibility that kids who live in the Oak Hill part of Herndon might travel four miles to a high school near Hutchison in the future.