do college admissions get ugly at the Big3 when all the parents are Ivy grads?

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Anonymous wrote:Which DC *privates* send kids to MIT? (not an argument just honestly a question).

It's pretty rare that anyone applies, and even more rare that any get in. Those who do have done significant STEM work outside of school; the type of kid teachers don't even pretend to take credit for, as they typically arrived at the high school with an impressive outside portfolio already.

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

Aw, I struck a nerve. Don't forget I'm also married to another HYP grad. And yea, our genetics are why our kids are so smart but it's also largely that we don't tell them they can do anything they put their minds to even if they suck at it. If your kid can't get a 4.0 at the top-ranked state school after having double-Ivy parents, they shouldn't be in college. It's not for everyone. Mine will be encouraged to pursue trade school if they don't work their asses off to pursue excellence given being born on third base because there's nothing wrong with learning a valuable trade that pays your bills and I don't coddle.

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

Aw, I struck a nerve. Don't forget I'm also married to another HYP grad. And yea, our genetics are why our kids are so smart but it's also largely that we don't tell them they can do anything they put their minds to even if they suck at it. If your kid can't get a 4.0 at the top-ranked state school after having double-Ivy parents, they shouldn't be in college. It's not for everyone. Mine will be encouraged to pursue trade school if they don't work their asses off to pursue excellence given being born on third base because there's nothing wrong with learning a valuable trade that pays your bills and I don't coddle.

Truth.

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

Aw, I struck a nerve. Don't forget I'm also married to another HYP grad. And yea, our genetics are why our kids are so smart but it's also largely that we don't tell them they can do anything they put their minds to even if they suck at it. If your kid can't get a 4.0 at the top-ranked state school after having double-Ivy parents, they shouldn't be in college. It's not for everyone. Mine will be encouraged to pursue trade school if they don't work their asses off to pursue excellence given being born on third base because there's nothing wrong with learning a valuable trade that pays your bills and I don't coddle.

LOL. Do you realize how many double-HYP parents send their kids to Big3? That’s the title of this thread. I’m sure they will take your wisdom to heart and disenroll their kids immediately.

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

Aw, I struck a nerve. Don't forget I'm also married to another HYP grad. And yea, our genetics are why our kids are so smart but it's also largely that we don't tell them they can do anything they put their minds to even if they suck at it. If your kid can't get a 4.0 at the top-ranked state school after having double-Ivy parents, they shouldn't be in college. It's not for everyone. Mine will be encouraged to pursue trade school if they don't work their asses off to pursue excellence given being born on third base because there's nothing wrong with learning a valuable trade that pays your bills and I don't coddle.

LOL. Do you realize how many double-HYP parents send their kids to Big3? That’s the title of this thread. I’m sure they will take your wisdom to heart and disenroll their kids immediately.

LOL, right?? Also, we are top SLAC/double Ivy grad/T-14 law grads and there is no way one of our DCs would 4.0 skate @ at a top-ranked state school even though born on third base. While very bright and with a prodigious memory, he has some learning challenges not identified until high school. While he has improved as a student, he may have these challenges his whole life and his academic record can vary from semester to semester depending on teachers, subject, etc..

I don't coddle, but we meet our children where they are, not where we expect them to be to affirm our status.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

Aw, I struck a nerve. Don't forget I'm also married to another HYP grad. And yea, our genetics are why our kids are so smart but it's also largely that we don't tell them they can do anything they put their minds to even if they suck at it. If your kid can't get a 4.0 at the top-ranked state school after having double-Ivy parents, they shouldn't be in college. It's not for everyone. Mine will be encouraged to pursue trade school if they don't work their asses off to pursue excellence given being born on third base because there's nothing wrong with learning a valuable trade that pays your bills and I don't coddle.

LOL. Do you realize how many double-HYP parents send their kids to Big3? That’s the title of this thread. I’m sure they will take your wisdom to heart and disenroll their kids immediately.

LOL, right?? Also, we are top SLAC/double Ivy grad/T-14 law grads and there is no way one of our DCs would 4.0 skate @ at a top-ranked state school even though born on third base. While very bright and with a prodigious memory, he has some learning challenges not identified until high school. While he has improved as a student, he may have these challenges his whole life and his academic record can vary from semester to semester depending on teachers, subject, etc..

I don't coddle, but we meet our children where they are, not where we expect them to be to affirm our status.

Still striking a nerve I see. Let's be clear, we're not just some SLAC or Ivy grads, we're both HYP grads, so I'm pretty confident our kids are not similar in any way.

Besides, our kid just took the WPPSI and crushed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which DC *privates* send kids to MIT? (not an argument just honestly a question).

It's pretty rare that anyone applies, and even more rare that any get in. Those who do have done significant STEM work outside of school; the type of kid teachers don't even pretend to take credit for, as they typically arrived at the high school with an impressive outside portfolio already.

PP, you seem to assume that acceptance to MIT is some kind of validator of the rigor of STEM at a sub-set of Privates while ignoring other factors in play.

While MIT is a great institution, matriculation there has other constraints beyond acceptance. First, one has to apply.

Have you considered that a very real factor of less MIT attendees is that in order to apply to MIT, one has to forgo applying ED to any other school, including Stanford.

I challenge you to look at it from that slightly different perspective. Say you are a full ride recruit at Stanford and/or have a likely letter from an Ivy. Would you turn BOTH down in order to take a chance on being admitted to MIT given that MIT offers no guarantee of admission to anyone ?

Its fine if a student is just applying regular decision to a bunch of state schools and MIT is their 1st choice, but who would turn down full ride Stanford or likely admit to Harvard or Princeton in order to just apply to MIT- not a good student of probability.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

Aw, I struck a nerve. Don't forget I'm also married to another HYP grad. And yea, our genetics are why our kids are so smart but it's also largely that we don't tell them they can do anything they put their minds to even if they suck at it. If your kid can't get a 4.0 at the top-ranked state school after having double-Ivy parents, they shouldn't be in college. It's not for everyone. Mine will be encouraged to pursue trade school if they don't work their asses off to pursue excellence given being born on third base because there's nothing wrong with learning a valuable trade that pays your bills and I don't coddle.

LOL. Do you realize how many double-HYP parents send their kids to Big3? That’s the title of this thread. I’m sure they will take your wisdom to heart and disenroll their kids immediately.

LOL, right?? Also, we are top SLAC/double Ivy grad/T-14 law grads and there is no way one of our DCs would 4.0 skate @ at a top-ranked state school even though born on third base. While very bright and with a prodigious memory, he has some learning challenges not identified until high school. While he has improved as a student, he may have these challenges his whole life and his academic record can vary from semester to semester depending on teachers, subject, etc..

I don't coddle, but we meet our children where they are, not where we expect them to be to affirm our status.

Why did it take you so long to recognize your child had LD and get him the support he needs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

Aw, I struck a nerve. Don't forget I'm also married to another HYP grad. And yea, our genetics are why our kids are so smart but it's also largely that we don't tell them they can do anything they put their minds to even if they suck at it. If your kid can't get a 4.0 at the top-ranked state school after having double-Ivy parents, they shouldn't be in college. It's not for everyone. Mine will be encouraged to pursue trade school if they don't work their asses off to pursue excellence given being born on third base because there's nothing wrong with learning a valuable trade that pays your bills and I don't coddle.

LOL. Do you realize how many double-HYP parents send their kids to Big3? That’s the title of this thread. I’m sure they will take your wisdom to heart and disenroll their kids immediately.

LOL, right?? Also, we are top SLAC/double Ivy grad/T-14 law grads and there is no way one of our DCs would 4.0 skate @ at a top-ranked state school even though born on third base. While very bright and with a prodigious memory, he has some learning challenges not identified until high school. While he has improved as a student, he may have these challenges his whole life and his academic record can vary from semester to semester depending on teachers, subject, etc..

I don't coddle, but we meet our children where they are, not where we expect them to be to affirm our status.

Still striking a nerve I see. Let's be clear, we're not just some SLAC or Ivy grads, we're both HYP grads, so I'm pretty confident our kids are not similar in any way.

Besides, our kid just took the WPPSI and crushed it.

This is a troll, folks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: The reason Sidwell isn't sharing this data openly is because they'd lose a ton of students who think the school actually helps you get into a top school instead of hinders you. For example, if all the kids are URMs or recruits who get into HYP, and my kid is not athletic or URM, I'm not going to waste my money.

If your goal is HYP, then your best option is to move to idaho and be a stellar student applying from there.

Most people understand that independent schools don't "get you in" at places like HYP. That isn't their mission and never has been.

Don’t have to go way out to Idaho. They can go to West Virginia.

True.

PP here. I entirely agree (and frankly as an HYP grad married to another will push my kid to go to top-ranked state school, skate and get a 4.0 plus a high MCAT/LSAT and then go to YLS or a top 5 med school). Or trade school.

That being said, you’re all wasting your money and time going to T3 high schools. You’re actually hampering your kids.

Look at me! I'm so smart and my kids are so smart that I can just tell them to get a 4.0 in a 'top-ranked state school' while skating.

Oh - and I'm a better parent than all of you wasting your money and harming your kids. I have ALL the answers.

But let me be sure to tell you that I went to HYP

dealing with you in real life must be so unpleasant.

Aw, I struck a nerve. Don't forget I'm also married to another HYP grad. And yea, our genetics are why our kids are so smart but it's also largely that we don't tell them they can do anything they put their minds to even if they suck at it. If your kid can't get a 4.0 at the top-ranked state school after having double-Ivy parents, they shouldn't be in college. It's not for everyone. Mine will be encouraged to pursue trade school if they don't work their asses off to pursue excellence given being born on third base because there's nothing wrong with learning a valuable trade that pays your bills and I don't coddle.

LOL. Do you realize how many double-HYP parents send their kids to Big3? That’s the title of this thread. I’m sure they will take your wisdom to heart and disenroll their kids immediately.

LOL, right?? Also, we are top SLAC/double Ivy grad/T-14 law grads and there is no way one of our DCs would 4.0 skate @ at a top-ranked state school even though born on third base. While very bright and with a prodigious memory, he has some learning challenges not identified until high school. While he has improved as a student, he may have these challenges his whole life and his academic record can vary from semester to semester depending on teachers, subject, etc..

I don't coddle, but we meet our children where they are, not where we expect them to be to affirm our status.

Still striking a nerve I see. Let's be clear, we're not just some SLAC or Ivy grads, we're both HYP grads, so I'm pretty confident our kids are not similar in any way.

Besides, our kid just took the WPPSI and crushed it.

This is a troll, folks.

Indeed. Otherwise, one cannot be that stupid!

[Anonymous]

Back to the original question: Yes!
And double yes for all highly selective colleges.
Counselors steer kids away from each other without telling.
Kids are afraid to speak about where they are applying, even to their closest friends.
The schools pretend it is all hunky-dory and it is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question: Yes!
And double yes for all highly selective colleges.
Counselors steer kids away from each other without telling.
Kids are afraid to speak about where they are applying, even to their closest friends.
The schools pretend it is all hunky-dory and it is not.

Sounds like our public school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question: Yes!
And double yes for all highly selective colleges.
Counselors steer kids away from each other without telling.
Kids are afraid to speak about where they are applying, even to their closest friends.
The schools pretend it is all hunky-dory and it is not.

So true!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question: Yes!
And double yes for all highly selective colleges.
Counselors steer kids away from each other without telling.
Kids are afraid to speak about where they are applying, even to their closest friends.
The schools pretend it is all hunky-dory and it is not.

I dunno. I guess we'll know for sure in April if not before, but this big3 parent thinks the process has been pleasant so far. DC is the spawn of one T5 parent and one SLAC parent, and we let the kid drive the entire process. Kid is genuinely uninterested in either of our alma maters and genuinely uninterested in all but one Ivy for its nearly unique program/major.

I suspect that the HYP-or-bust families at this same school WOULD tell you it's unfair, hopeless, rigged, shitty etc etc. I know some of these parents pretty well, and they are unpleasant AF and their kids are anxiety-ridden messes (albeit, with amazing curated ECs and top grades.)

Our family views the same situation very differently than these ppl at big3. We both may be right because we have different goals.