Why getting into a better college - is a stupid reason to go to a Big 3 / other top private

[Anonymous]

Have a friend going to Harvard Law School. They were shocked how many colleges were represented there. Here is the list


http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html

Over 170 different colleges represented in the first year law school class. Think about that 170 different colleges represented at arguably one of the premiere graduate schools in the world.!!!!

Lesson learned is for christ sake - stop obsessing over college entrance to one of 15 or so school - let alone Ivy. Find a place where your child will thrive. Its not over with college admissions and we all know grad school matters more these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have a friend going to Harvard Law School. They were shocked how many colleges were represented there. Here is the list


http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html

Over 170 different colleges represented in the first year law school class. Think about that 170 different colleges represented at arguably one of the premiere graduate schools in the world.!!!!

Lesson learned is for christ sake - stop obsessing over college entrance to one of 15 or so school - let alone Ivy. Find a place where your child will thrive. Its not over with college admissions and we all know grad school matters more these days.

Your thesis is correct, but you'd have to correct the list to account for affirmative action. It isn't all that difficult for affirmative action candidates to gain admission to HLS -- or even become editor of the law review.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Your thesis is correct, but you'd have to correct the list to account for affirmative action. It isn't all that difficult for affirmative action candidates to gain admission to HLS -- or even become editor of the law review.

Yes, all of those undeserving people undeservedly getting into Harvard Law. And even undeservedly getting elected president, despite their undeservingness! It's not fair!

[Anonymous]

I've also heard it said -- directly by a panel of admissions officers, that if your plan is grad school, is better to be a big fish in a small pond during undergrad, than the opposite. Go to a school where you can achieve top grades and high class rank and then worry about grad school.

[Anonymous]

(Another reason I like the private school forum is reading complaints from rich white people who can't stand it that their rich white kid didn't get into some elite something and a non-rich non-white kid did. When everybody knows perfectly well that rich white kids are by definition better than non-rich non-white kids!)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have a friend going to Harvard Law School. They were shocked how many colleges were represented there. Here is the list


http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html

Over 170 different colleges represented in the first year law school class. Think about that 170 different colleges represented at arguably one of the premiere graduate schools in the world.!!!!

Lesson learned is for christ sake - stop obsessing over college entrance to one of 15 or so school - let alone Ivy. Find a place where your child will thrive. Its not over with college admissions and we all know grad school matters more these days.

Your thesis is correct, but you'd have to correct the list to account for affirmative action. It isn't all that difficult for affirmative action

candidates to gain admission to HLS -- or even become editor of the law review.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I actually went to HLS, and affirmative action has nothing to do with the process of choosing the law review editor. Also, while admissions does take underrepresented minority status into account, it is still PLENTY hard to get in. They have more uber qualified candidates than they can possibly admit.
And i knew many a white kid from lesser known colleges there as well.

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Anonymous wrote:(Another reason I like the private school forum is reading complaints from rich white people who can't stand it that their rich white kid didn't get into some elite something and a non-rich non-white kid did. When everybody knows perfectly well that rich white kids are by definition better than non-rich non-white kids!)

If you really want to see ugly racial whining like that, try reading the public school threads on GT/magnet admissions. Those people are nasty.

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I am not for affirmative action but it is what it is and it is not going anywhere. I send out kids to private not even thinking about where they are going to college..too many good colleges to lose sleep over a few. I just think private schools do a better job of engaging kids with dynamic programs esp. in the younger years. I wish I had this growing up. You pick a private school because you want your child to thrive and hope by the extra attention they love to learn and become better students along the way.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have a friend going to Harvard Law School. They were shocked how many colleges were represented there. Here is the list


http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html

Over 170 different colleges represented in the first year law school class. Think about that 170 different colleges represented at arguably one of the premiere graduate schools in the world.!!!!

Lesson learned is for christ sake - stop obsessing over college entrance to one of 15 or so school - let alone Ivy. Find a place where your child will thrive. Its not over with college admissions and we all know grad school matters more these days.

Your thesis is correct, but you'd have to correct the list to account for affirmative action. It isn't all that difficult for affirmative action

candidates to gain admission to HLS -- or even become editor of the law review.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I actually went to HLS, and affirmative action has nothing to do with the process of choosing the law review editor. Also, while admissions does take underrepresented minority status into account, it is still PLENTY hard to get in. They have more uber qualified candidates than they can possibly admit.
And i knew many a white kid from lesser known colleges there as well.

And you obviously didn't go to HLS, as I did, affirmative action, poverity, women's issues and any number of other "discretionary issues" can be a factor in the write-on competition and has been at least since I was there in 1981. Read from wiki: Membership in the Harvard Law Review is offered to select Harvard law students based on first-year grades and performance in a writing competition held at the end of the first year.[9][10][11] The writing competition includes two components: an edit of an unpublished article and an analysis of a recent United States Supreme Court or Court of Appeals case.[9] The writing competition submissions are graded blindly to assure anonymity.[11][12] Fourteen editors (two from each 1L section) are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Twenty editors are selected based solely on their competition scores. The remaining editors are selected on a discretionary basis. According to the law review's webpage, " Some of these discretionary slots may b
e used to implement the Review's affirmative action policy."[9] The president of the Harvard Law Review is elected by the other editors.[

[Anonymous]

Barry made it on to law review via the write-on process because he had one of the "discreiotnary slots" for being black and then his co-editors elected him President because they thought it would be cool to have the first black editor in their class. I was there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have a friend going to Harvard Law School. They were shocked how many colleges were represented there. Here is the list


http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html

Over 170 different colleges represented in the first year law school class. Think about that 170 different colleges represented at arguably one of the premiere graduate schools in the world.!!!!

Lesson learned is for christ sake - stop obsessing over college entrance to one of 15 or so school - let alone Ivy. Find a place where your child will thrive. Its not over with college admissions and we all know grad school matters more these days.

But another way of looking at it is that those are only 170 schools of 564 incoming kids. Those 170 are the valedictorians of their institution, as I was, or athlete, minority, legacy, etc. When I attended HLS, I counted up in the facebook how many in my class were from Harvard Undergrad - over 30%! 394 of those kids are coming from the same schools and guess which ones those are???????????????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Your thesis is correct, but you'd have to correct the list to account for affirmative action. It isn't all that difficult for affirmative action candidates to gain admission to HLS -- or even become editor of the law review.

Yes, all of those undeserving people undeservedly getting into Harvard Law. And even undeservedly getting elected president, despite their undeservingness! It's not fair!

haha, well played, second poster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barry made it on to law review via the write-on process because he had one of the "discreiotnary slots" for being black and then his co-editors elected him President because they thought it would be cool to have the first black editor in their class. I was there.

And now he's President of the U.S. and you're there, too.

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...and has a Nobel Prize.

I guess life is not fair and your smart, intelligent inheriter of your genes was cheated of his/her entitled place as leader of the free world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barry made it on to law review via the write-on process because he had one of the "discreiotnary slots" for being black and then his co-editors elected him President because they thought it would be cool to have the first black editor in their class. I was there.

And now he's President of the U.S. and you're there, too.

And my big loss.