Why getting into a better college - is a stupid reason to go to a Big 3 / other top private

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Anonymous wrote:...and has a Nobel Prize.

I guess life is not fair and your smart, intelligent inheriter of your genes was cheated of his/her entitled place as leader of the free world.

Ah, yes, the prize for doing nothing but being black and winning the Presidency. A real low on the Committee's part.

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Anonymous wrote:Barry made it on to law review via the write-on process because he had one of the "discreiotnary slots" for being black and then his co-editors elected him President because they thought it would be cool to have the first black editor in their class. I was there.

And now he's President of the U.S. and you're there, too.

Hell, no, I'm staying as far away from this toxic administration as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:(Another reason I like the private school forum is reading complaints from rich white people who can't stand it that their rich white kid didn't get into some elite something and a non-rich non-white kid did. When everybody knows perfectly well that rich white kids are by definition better than non-rich non-white kids!)

If you really want to see ugly racial whining like that, try reading the public school threads on GT/magnet admissions. Those people are nasty.

Meh. Over on the public school forum, it's one Asian Tiger Mom doing all the whining about how affirmative action for minorities--and inferior white kids too!--is keeping those superior Asian kids out of the magnets. She also shows up on the College Forum to talk about how Harvard would be 75% Asian if it weren't for affirmative action for minorities and those sad white kids again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barry made it on to law review via the write-on process because he had one of the "discreiotnary slots" for being black and then his co-editors elected him President because they thought it would be cool to have the first black editor in their class. I was there.

So, the takeaway is that President Obama was editor of the law review and you were not. He's also the twice-elected president of the United States, and once again you are not (and never will be). You really should stop blaming affirmative action for your mediocrity. It makes you sound like an angry bigot.

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My cousin's wife was on the Harvard Law Review. She's a smart go-getter who has way to much going on in her life, raising kids and making millions, to waste her time whining about the President on a moms' website.

C'mon, bigotted PP, there's no way you are in the same class as Harvard Law Review types, let alone were one yourself.

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I went to Georgetown law. I'm white, but my class was full of incredibly smart, talented minorities who did not get into Harvard law school. Yes, it helps, but you still need high numbers to get in.

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Anonymous wrote:Have a friend going to Harvard Law School. They were shocked how many colleges were represented there. Here is the list


http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html

Over 170 different colleges represented in the first year law school class. Think about that 170 different colleges represented at arguably one of the premiere graduate schools in the world.!!!!

Lesson learned is for christ sake - stop obsessing over college entrance to one of 15 or so school - let alone Ivy. Find a place where your child will thrive. Its not over with college admissions and we all know grad school matters more these days.

Your thesis is correct, but you'd have to correct the list to account for affirmative action. It isn't all that difficult for affirmative action candidates to gain admission to HLS -- or even become editor of the law review.

Strom Thurmond? Is that you back from the dead?

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Anonymous wrote:Barry made it on to law review via the write-on process because he had one of the "discreiotnary slots" for being black and then his co-editors elected him President because they thought it would be cool to have the first black editor in their class. I was there.

This is true to some degree. There was likely a cool factor in having the first black editor, just like we know there was a cool factor in electing the first black president. However the cool factor isn't the only factor. He likely was also someone who was well liked, a leader, talented, and intelligent. That is why he rose to the top and out of all the 'discretionary spots' he stood out. Same as for being president. There are almost 40 million black Americans. Out of these he rose to being the first black President. Again, not because he was black and he won the lucky raffle 'President' prize out of 40 million people, but because he was smart, talented, a leader, a politician, etc...

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I know a few minority straight A students at top area privates and magnets who didn't get into Ivies. These days, the idea that you just have to check the minority box is way overblown.

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Anonymous wrote:Have a friend going to Harvard Law School. They were shocked how many colleges were represented there. Here is the list


Actually, i did go there, graduated in 2003, and one of my closest friends (a white male) was pres of law rev, so i am fully aware of the process. Bitter much?

http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html

Over 170 different colleges represented in the first year law school class. Think about that 170 different colleges represented at arguably one of the premiere graduate schools in the world.!!!!

Lesson learned is for christ sake - stop obsessing over college entrance to one of 15 or so school - let alone Ivy. Find a place where your child will thrive. Its not over with college admissions and we all know grad school matters more these days.

Your thesis is correct, but you'd have to correct the list to account for affirmative action. It isn't all that difficult for affirmative action





candidates to gain admission to HLS -- or even become editor of the law review.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I actually went to HLS, and affirmative action has nothing to do with the process of choosing the law review editor. Also, while admissions does take underrepresented minority status into account, it is still PLENTY hard to get in. They have more uber qualified candidates than they can possibly admit.
And i knew many a white kid from lesser known colleges there as well.

And you obviously didn't go to HLS, as I did, affirmative action, poverity, women's issues and any number of other "discretionary issues" can be a factor in the write-on competition and has been at least since I was there in 1981. Read from wiki: Membership in the Harvard Law Review is offered to select Harvard law students based on first-year grades and performance in a writing competition held at the end of the first year.[9][10][11] The writing competition includes two components: an edit of an unpublished article and an analysis of a recent United States Supreme Court or Court of Appeals case.[9] The writing competition submissions are graded blindly to assure anonymity.[11][12] Fourteen editors (two from each 1L section) are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Twenty editors are selected based solely on their competition scores. The remaining editors are selected on a discretionary basis. According to the law review's webpage, " Some of these discretionary slots may b
e used to implement the Review's affirmative action policy."[9] The president of the Harvard Law Review is elected by the other editors.[

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barry made it on to law review via the write-on process because he had one of the "discreiotnary slots" for being black and then his co-editors elected him President because they thought it would be cool to have the first black editor in their class. I was there.

And now he's President of the U.S. and you're there, too.

+1. Bottom line is no one is getting into HLS without the creds. Affirmative action or not. Period.

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I know a number of people who have attended Harvard or Yale law school recently. Some come from Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, etc. but they are just as likely to come from a flagship state school or a top SLAC. Mostly they are just smart people who are impressive.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have a friend going to Harvard Law School. They were shocked how many colleges were represented there. Here is the list


http://www.law.harvard.edu/prospective/jd/apply/undergrads.html

Over 170 different colleges represented in the first year law school class. Think about that 170 different colleges represented at arguably one of the premiere graduate schools in the world.!!!!

Lesson learned is for christ sake - stop obsessing over college entrance to one of 15 or so school - let alone Ivy. Find a place where your child will thrive. Its not over with college admissions and we all know grad school matters more these days.

Your thesis is correct, but you'd have to correct the list to account for affirmative action. It isn't all that difficult for affirmative action

candidates to gain admission to HLS -- or even become editor of the law review.

You have no idea what you're talking about. I actually went to HLS, and affirmative action has nothing to do with the process of choosing the law review editor. Also, while admissions does take underrepresented minority status into account, it is still PLENTY hard to get in. They have more uber qualified candidates than they can possibly admit.
And i knew many a white kid from lesser known colleges there as well.

And you obviously didn't go to HLS, as I did, affirmative action, poverity, women's issues and any number of other "discretionary issues" can be a factor in the write-on competition and has been at least since I was there in 1981. Read from wiki: Membership in the Harvard Law Review is offered to select Harvard law students based on first-year grades and performance in a writing competition held at the end of the first year.[9][10][11] The writing competition includes two components: an edit of an unpublished article and an analysis of a recent United States Supreme Court or Court of Appeals case.[9] The writing competition submissions are graded blindly to assure anonymity.[11][12] Fourteen editors (two from each 1L section) are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Twenty editors are selected based solely on their competition scores. The remaining editors are selected on a discretionary basis. According to the law review's webpage, " Some of these discretionary slots may b
e used to implement the Review's affirmative action policy."[9] The president of the Harvard Law Review is elected by the other editors.[

And you believe that? You are not attending HLS.

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Anonymous wrote:My cousin's wife was on the Harvard Law Review. She's a smart go-getter who has way to much going on in her life, raising kids and making millions, to waste her time whining about the President on a moms' website.

C'mon, bigotted PP, there's no way you are in the same class as Harvard Law Review types, let alone were one yourself.

C'mon now, fantasy PP. if she's a "smart go-getter and making millions", she's got someone else doing the lion's share of raising her kids. At the end of every day, she might have some energy left to skim the nanny log.

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I get so sick and tired of whiny white folks bitching about affirmative action. Damn it, if you don't like it then bitch to the school. You must think that HYP has rocks in their asses and purposely go out looking for D students to fill their seats.

Sorry but I'm not in the mood to speak what you define as eloquent and using verbiage (yes, that's the correct spelling) that is only comprehensible with a dictionary at your elbow. I am tired of white people assuming that black people are not well-read and intelligent enough to get into HYP without affirmative action. Stop reading the National Enquirer and DCUM and try looking at other materials that truly define the African American intellectual.

Enough of the bullshit pity party about affirmative action. Harvard Law will not, does not, and never will admit ANYONE who can't hold their own or doesn't have the grades and moxie to handle the load regardless of affirmative action. You know it and I know it.

Whatever you think of President Obama, whether you like him or not, he's got the smarts. Being black doesn't have one damn thing with getting into Harvard Law because 'it's the cool thing to do'. Please, people!