ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The DA “failed” because the USSF allowed the MLS to “fail” it. The DA ceased to exist 9 months after the Sport Arbitration Court held that US youth clubs were legally entitled to a share of the player development fees, and that the MLS/USSF side deal to exclude the youth clubs was illegal.

In other words, MLS ownership did not want to share did not want to cut the youth clubs in for a share of the development fees that they earned. (Development fees are often over 7 figures.). So, the USSF said - okay we will end the DA and you can start MLSNext. What? There’s a whole girls side to the DA? Oh, we forgot. Oh well, guess that ends too.

The US can have its own age cutoff date. It’s no big deal to make it August 1. Yes, the best kids will now be those born in August-October and not January-March. But, you draw the line somewhere.

Can't speak for all of DA, but where I live DA struggled because many of the top players wanted to play with their friends in High school during their Jr/Sr years. High School soccer here is in the spring (because that is when the football overlords allow it to be).

That meant that our DA team had some top players (where their HS team is weak) and decent players, but the top HS teams retained their best players.

You may feel their decision to play with their friends is dubious, but keep in mind, for them, soccer was 'fun again.' Also, few 17/18 year olds in this country get pro contracts. College? NCAA D1 only allotted 9.9 for the entire roster (over 30 players!) of which many are foreign born professional club academy products just not good enough to land a contract.

Funny how MLS Next is the top league for boys and they don't allow players to play HS soccer.

ECNL boys is 2nd tier to MLS Next and they do allow playing in HS.

Reality is smacking your BS in the face.

This rambling nonsense does nothing to dispute what this poster wrote.

Hahaha triggered 🤣 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DA “failed” because the USSF allowed the MLS to “fail” it. The DA ceased to exist 9 months after the Sport Arbitration Court held that US youth clubs were legally entitled to a share of the player development fees, and that the MLS/USSF side deal to exclude the youth clubs was illegal.

In other words, MLS ownership did not want to share did not want to cut the youth clubs in for a share of the development fees that they earned. (Development fees are often over 7 figures.). So, the USSF said - okay we will end the DA and you can start MLSNext. What? There’s a whole girls side to the DA? Oh, we forgot. Oh well, guess that ends too.

The US can have its own age cutoff date. It’s no big deal to make it August 1. Yes, the best kids will now be those born in August-October and not January-March. But, you draw the line somewhere.

Can't speak for all of DA, but where I live DA struggled because many of the top players wanted to play with their friends in High school during their Jr/Sr years. High School soccer here is in the spring (because that is when the football overlords allow it to be).

That meant that our DA team had some top players (where their HS team is weak) and decent players, but the top HS teams retained their best players.

You may feel their decision to play with their friends is dubious, but keep in mind, for them, soccer was 'fun again.' Also, few 17/18 year olds in this country get pro contracts. College? NCAA D1 only allotted 9.9 for the entire roster (over 30 players!) of which many are foreign born professional club academy products just not good enough to land a contract.

Funny how MLS Next is the top league for boys and they don't allow players to play HS soccer.

ECNL boys is 2nd tier to MLS Next and they do allow playing in HS.

Reality is smacking your BS in the face.

This rambling nonsense does nothing to dispute what this poster wrote.

Hahaha triggered 🤣 😂

No, it clearly was a tangent unrelated to the comment presented, aka rambling nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People need to understand the real surveys from the big soccer leagues and governing bodies were sent out and completed months ago. A decision to switch back to school year cutoffs is happening. Will it be for everyone at the same time I think is more of an argument.ECNL going to switch things up right away. Everyone else will either join them in fall or they will implement with phases so each team can add a certain number of Q3/4 players for 25/26 with full implementation for 26/27.

The surveys went out to the clubs like two months ago, this whole plan was cooked once before that by handful of EL executives. Clubs were surprised, even those that support the change.

This is exactly how DA failed. ECNL folks were behind that too. There will be fallout, regardless of position on age cut offs. People are not gonna be happy about the conspiracy. (See SoCal)

local small clubs will not be happy, but ECNL member clubs will be happy for the change. It is obvious from Socal member clubs reaction.

Yea everyone will be totally excited to break up teams an do a bunch of unnecessary work.

ECNL clubs are happy. Their rosters already have 22-23 players. The small local clubs will have big hits, and revenue will increase to ECNL clubs.

There are a lot of ECNL clubs that aren’t happy about it.

Why would any club be happy about having to deal with extra work for no extra pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DA “failed” because the USSF allowed the MLS to “fail” it. The DA ceased to exist 9 months after the Sport Arbitration Court held that US youth clubs were legally entitled to a share of the player development fees, and that the MLS/USSF side deal to exclude the youth clubs was illegal.

In other words, MLS ownership did not want to share did not want to cut the youth clubs in for a share of the development fees that they earned. (Development fees are often over 7 figures.). So, the USSF said - okay we will end the DA and you can start MLSNext. What? There’s a whole girls side to the DA? Oh, we forgot. Oh well, guess that ends too.

The US can have its own age cutoff date. It’s no big deal to make it August 1. Yes, the best kids will now be those born in August-October and not January-March. But, you draw the line somewhere.

Can't speak for all of DA, but where I live DA struggled because many of the top players wanted to play with their friends in High school during their Jr/Sr years. High School soccer here is in the spring (because that is when the football overlords allow it to be).

That meant that our DA team had some top players (where their HS team is weak) and decent players, but the top HS teams retained their best players.

You may feel their decision to play with their friends is dubious, but keep in mind, for them, soccer was 'fun again.' Also, few 17/18 year olds in this country get pro contracts. College? NCAA D1 only allotted 9.9 for the entire roster (over 30 players!) of which many are foreign born professional club academy products just not good enough to land a contract.

Funny how MLS Next is the top league for boys and they don't allow players to play HS soccer.

ECNL boys is 2nd tier to MLS Next and they do allow playing in HS.

Reality is smacking your BS in the face.

This rambling nonsense does nothing to dispute what this poster wrote.

Hahaha triggered 🤣 😂

No, it clearly was a tangent unrelated to the comment presented, aka rambling nonsense.

Double triggered 🤣😂 stop embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DA “failed” because the USSF allowed the MLS to “fail” it. The DA ceased to exist 9 months after the Sport Arbitration Court held that US youth clubs were legally entitled to a share of the player development fees, and that the MLS/USSF side deal to exclude the youth clubs was illegal.

In other words, MLS ownership did not want to share did not want to cut the youth clubs in for a share of the development fees that they earned. (Development fees are often over 7 figures.). So, the USSF said - okay we will end the DA and you can start MLSNext. What? There’s a whole girls side to the DA? Oh, we forgot. Oh well, guess that ends too.

The US can have its own age cutoff date. It’s no big deal to make it August 1. Yes, the best kids will now be those born in August-October and not January-March. But, you draw the line somewhere.

Can't speak for all of DA, but where I live DA struggled because many of the top players wanted to play with their friends in High school during their Jr/Sr years. High School soccer here is in the spring (because that is when the football overlords allow it to be).

That meant that our DA team had some top players (where their HS team is weak) and decent players, but the top HS teams retained their best players.

You may feel their decision to play with their friends is dubious, but keep in mind, for them, soccer was 'fun again.' Also, few 17/18 year olds in this country get pro contracts. College? NCAA D1 only allotted 9.9 for the entire roster (over 30 players!) of which many are foreign born professional club academy products just not good enough to land a contract.

Funny how MLS Next is the top league for boys and they don't allow players to play HS soccer.

ECNL boys is 2nd tier to MLS Next and they do allow playing in HS.

Reality is smacking your BS in the face.

This rambling nonsense does nothing to dispute what this poster wrote.

Hahaha triggered 🤣 😂

No, it clearly was a tangent unrelated to the comment presented, aka rambling nonsense.

Double triggered 🤣😂 stop embarrassing yourself.

I was the poster before this someone different backed it up. No one is triggered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DA “failed” because the USSF allowed the MLS to “fail” it. The DA ceased to exist 9 months after the Sport Arbitration Court held that US youth clubs were legally entitled to a share of the player development fees, and that the MLS/USSF side deal to exclude the youth clubs was illegal.

In other words, MLS ownership did not want to share did not want to cut the youth clubs in for a share of the development fees that they earned. (Development fees are often over 7 figures.). So, the USSF said - okay we will end the DA and you can start MLSNext. What? There’s a whole girls side to the DA? Oh, we forgot. Oh well, guess that ends too.

The US can have its own age cutoff date. It’s no big deal to make it August 1. Yes, the best kids will now be those born in August-October and not January-March. But, you draw the line somewhere.

Can't speak for all of DA, but where I live DA struggled because many of the top players wanted to play with their friends in High school during their Jr/Sr years. High School soccer here is in the spring (because that is when the football overlords allow it to be).

That meant that our DA team had some top players (where their HS team is weak) and decent players, but the top HS teams retained their best players.

You may feel their decision to play with their friends is dubious, but keep in mind, for them, soccer was 'fun again.' Also, few 17/18 year olds in this country get pro contracts. College? NCAA D1 only allotted 9.9 for the entire roster (over 30 players!) of which many are foreign born professional club academy products just not good enough to land a contract.

Funny how MLS Next is the top league for boys and they don't allow players to play HS soccer.

ECNL boys is 2nd tier to MLS Next and they do allow playing in HS.

Reality is smacking your BS in the face.

This rambling nonsense does nothing to dispute what this poster wrote.

Hahaha triggered 🤣 😂

No, it clearly was a tangent unrelated to the comment presented, aka rambling nonsense.

Double triggered 🤣😂 stop embarrassing yourself.

I was the poster before this someone different backed it up. No one is triggered.

Triple triggered I didn't think it was possible.

[Anonymous]

The serious issue to changing to school year over birth year is not even being discussed. It’s makes me sick that nobody is thinking about these kids a their Instagram accounts with birth year in their username. What are they supposed to do now? Make new accounts? Won’t someone think of the children for once.

[Anonymous]

When is this change going into effect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When is this change going into effect?

The vote is Nov 22, and if it passes US Soccer will announce it along with when it will take place. Depending on who you ask, it’s already a done deal and will go into effect for the 25/26 season. And some seem to think it will start this spring depending on the league in order to cater to the trapped players from the “old system”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DA “failed” because the USSF allowed the MLS to “fail” it. The DA ceased to exist 9 months after the Sport Arbitration Court held that US youth clubs were legally entitled to a share of the player development fees, and that the MLS/USSF side deal to exclude the youth clubs was illegal.

In other words, MLS ownership did not want to share did not want to cut the youth clubs in for a share of the development fees that they earned. (Development fees are often over 7 figures.). So, the USSF said - okay we will end the DA and you can start MLSNext. What? There’s a whole girls side to the DA? Oh, we forgot. Oh well, guess that ends too.

The US can have its own age cutoff date. It’s no big deal to make it August 1. Yes, the best kids will now be those born in August-October and not January-March. But, you draw the line somewhere.

Can't speak for all of DA, but where I live DA struggled because many of the top players wanted to play with their friends in High school during their Jr/Sr years. High School soccer here is in the spring (because that is when the football overlords allow it to be).

That meant that our DA team had some top players (where their HS team is weak) and decent players, but the top HS teams retained their best players.

You may feel their decision to play with their friends is dubious, but keep in mind, for them, soccer was 'fun again.' Also, few 17/18 year olds in this country get pro contracts. College? NCAA D1 only allotted 9.9 for the entire roster (over 30 players!) of which many are foreign born professional club academy products just not good enough to land a contract.

Funny how MLS Next is the top league for boys and they don't allow players to play HS soccer.

ECNL boys is 2nd tier to MLS Next and they do allow playing in HS.

Reality is smacking your BS in the face.

How is your response related to his statement? He spoke about DA failing in his specific area. May not transfer to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DA “failed” because the USSF allowed the MLS to “fail” it. The DA ceased to exist 9 months after the Sport Arbitration Court held that US youth clubs were legally entitled to a share of the player development fees, and that the MLS/USSF side deal to exclude the youth clubs was illegal.

In other words, MLS ownership did not want to share did not want to cut the youth clubs in for a share of the development fees that they earned. (Development fees are often over 7 figures.). So, the USSF said - okay we will end the DA and you can start MLSNext. What? There’s a whole girls side to the DA? Oh, we forgot. Oh well, guess that ends too.

The US can have its own age cutoff date. It’s no big deal to make it August 1. Yes, the best kids will now be those born in August-October and not January-March. But, you draw the line somewhere.

Can't speak for all of DA, but where I live DA struggled because many of the top players wanted to play with their friends in High school during their Jr/Sr years. High School soccer here is in the spring (because that is when the football overlords allow it to be).

That meant that our DA team had some top players (where their HS team is weak) and decent players, but the top HS teams retained their best players.

You may feel their decision to play with their friends is dubious, but keep in mind, for them, soccer was 'fun again.' Also, few 17/18 year olds in this country get pro contracts. College? NCAA D1 only allotted 9.9 for the entire roster (over 30 players!) of which many are foreign born professional club academy products just not good enough to land a contract.

Most DA clubs granted waivers so that kids could play High School despite the rules. This was really true on the girls side where they allowed HS play if there was a local ECNL club that allowed it so that the club could compete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The DA “failed” because the USSF allowed the MLS to “fail” it. The DA ceased to exist 9 months after the Sport Arbitration Court held that US youth clubs were legally entitled to a share of the player development fees, and that the MLS/USSF side deal to exclude the youth clubs was illegal.

In other words, MLS ownership did not want to share did not want to cut the youth clubs in for a share of the development fees that they earned. (Development fees are often over 7 figures.). So, the USSF said - okay we will end the DA and you can start MLSNext. What? There’s a whole girls side to the DA? Oh, we forgot. Oh well, guess that ends too.

The US can have its own age cutoff date. It’s no big deal to make it August 1. Yes, the best kids will now be those born in August-October and not January-March. But, you draw the line somewhere.

Can't speak for all of DA, but where I live DA struggled because many of the top players wanted to play with their friends in High school during their Jr/Sr years. High School soccer here is in the spring (because that is when the football overlords allow it to be).

That meant that our DA team had some top players (where their HS team is weak) and decent players, but the top HS teams retained their best players.

You may feel their decision to play with their friends is dubious, but keep in mind, for them, soccer was 'fun again.' Also, few 17/18 year olds in this country get pro contracts. College? NCAA D1 only allotted 9.9 for the entire roster (over 30 players!) of which many are foreign born professional club academy products just not good enough to land a contract.

Most DA clubs granted waivers so that kids could play High School despite the rules. This was really true on the girls side where they allowed HS play if there was a local ECNL club that allowed it so that the club could compete.

The DA waivers were mostly for private school kids and they weren't cheap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When is this change going into effect?

The vote is Nov 22, and if it passes US Soccer will announce it along with when it will take place. Depending on who you ask, it’s already a done deal and will go into effect for the 25/26 season. And some seem to think it will start this spring depending on the league in order to cater to the trapped players from the “old system”.

The tea leaves and rumors say it will be approved but each governing body will have the decision to decide their start date. So we will see some leagues go right into it and some push it out to 2026. We may even see various cut offs so each state can eliminate its trapped players based on when schools begin. ECNL will get right into for spring with stipulations for clubs to follow.

[Anonymous]

I’m mot for this but I just don’t see how ECNL and other academies will not go with grad year model. Hopefully I am wrong but it seems to eliminate trapped players and any hold back or early starter kids.

Yes some people abuse the system and hold kids back but idk if it will be enough kids or care from ECNL when it aligns so perfectly with college recruiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m mot for this but I just don’t see how ECNL and other academies will not go with grad year model. Hopefully I am wrong but it seems to eliminate trapped players and any hold back or early starter kids.

Yes some people abuse the system and hold kids back but idk if it will be enough kids or care from ECNL when it aligns so perfectly with college recruiting.

It's SY or BY. Not GY. The survey answered this.