ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hahaha, it's clear that nothing is decided yet.

Nothing has been decided by US Soccer
But US Club, AYSO, USYS have already had their meetings and decided to go through with it. Maybe US Soccer will say no however that will not stop the majority from making their change. Which the ECNL president has already said openly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

For cover on the position that they have already taken.

When you want real input, you get in months in advance, when you want to put on a show that you care about the stance of others, you do it 2 weeks out on your announcement of the change you decided months ago.

US Soccer received flack for unilaterally switching from SY to CY so they want cover for their decision this time.

Expect a couple of hand picked examples about how my little Timmy is now jobless and homeless because of the prior move from SY to CY to create a narrative for acceptance with the change back.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

I can give a quick summary of why.

SOCAL soccer clubs were not happy this was spring in them without notice. Many clubs are afraid of how the change will affect them financially. SoCal sent out a questionnaire about what clubs prefer. The data was pretty split down the middle with club in favor and not. One thing that was unanimous was wanting more transparency and a voice with us soccer. SoCal heads took that to us soccer which is why now you have a vague options for parents to say what they think and a more thorough option for coaching directors.

This is all just for show at this point as all the governing bodies have already decided what they want to do and US soccer was the one who originally sent out the order late last year to get a plan together.

They want us to think we have a say but we don’t. They’ve already decided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

For cover on the position that they have already taken.

When you want real input, you get in months in advance, when you want to put on a show that you care about the stance of others, you do it 2 weeks out on your announcement of the change you decided months ago.

US Soccer received flack for unilaterally switching from SY to CY so they want cover for their decision this time.

Expect a couple of hand picked examples about how my little Timmy is now jobless and homeless because of the prior move from SY to CY to create a narrative for acceptance with the change back.

I agree. In a company, business-critical decisions are made by executives, not thousands of employees. Of course, they will put up a "survey" to seek feedback from us peasants, so we will feel we are part of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

I can give a quick summary of why.

SOCAL soccer clubs were not happy this was spring in them without notice. Many clubs are afraid of how the change will affect them financially. SoCal sent out a questionnaire about what clubs prefer. The data was pretty split down the middle with club in favor and not. One thing that was unanimous was wanting more transparency and a voice with us soccer. SoCal heads took that to us soccer which is why now you have a vague options for parents to say what they think and a more thorough option for coaching directors.

This is all just for show at this point as all the governing bodies have already decided what they want to do and US soccer was the one who originally sent out the order late last year to get a plan together.

They want us to think we have a say but we don’t. They’ve already decided.

I think you're underestimating how much power MLS has within US Soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

I can give a quick summary of why.

SOCAL soccer clubs were not happy this was spring in them without notice. Many clubs are afraid of how the change will affect them financially. SoCal sent out a questionnaire about what clubs prefer. The data was pretty split down the middle with club in favor and not. One thing that was unanimous was wanting more transparency and a voice with us soccer. SoCal heads took that to us soccer which is why now you have a vague options for parents to say what they think and a more thorough option for coaching directors.

This is all just for show at this point as all the governing bodies have already decided what they want to do and US soccer was the one who originally sent out the order late last year to get a plan together.

They want us to think we have a say but we don’t. They’ve already decided.

Sorry to burst your bubble bud.
But this was brought on by US Club soccer not US Soccer. US Soccer has no need to reverse their decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

I can give a quick summary of why.

SOCAL soccer clubs were not happy this was spring in them without notice. Many clubs are afraid of how the change will affect them financially. SoCal sent out a questionnaire about what clubs prefer. The data was pretty split down the middle with club in favor and not. One thing that was unanimous was wanting more transparency and a voice with us soccer. SoCal heads took that to us soccer which is why now you have a vague options for parents to say what they think and a more thorough option for coaching directors.

This is all just for show at this point as all the governing bodies have already decided what they want to do and US soccer was the one who originally sent out the order late last year to get a plan together.

They want us to think we have a say but we don’t. They’ve already decided.

I think you're underestimating how much power MLS has within US Soccer.

I don't know why everyone assumes the MLS would oppose this, they might, or they might not care. I can't see how it impacts them much.

Everyone says it impacts teams in international competitions but the one time my US kid played in a tournament in Europe with his US team he played in a 13 division with a team of primarily 13s with a couple of 12s and that was fine with the tournament organizers. Something that never would have been ok with anyone in any US tournament but they were cool with it. The English teams, since they are also school year (September) were doing the same thing.

Seems to me the most likely thing to happen is that US soccer will say "ok we fold, no more birth year mandate from US Soccer, everyone can do what they want" at which point its pretty clear all of US Club, USYS, and AYSO will go back to school year. MLS Next may or may not. Honestly if MLS Academies played with only BY kids playing up and MLS Next teams played with SY, maybe they would be more competitive with each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

I can give a quick summary of why.

SOCAL soccer clubs were not happy this was spring in them without notice. Many clubs are afraid of how the change will affect them financially. SoCal sent out a questionnaire about what clubs prefer. The data was pretty split down the middle with club in favor and not. One thing that was unanimous was wanting more transparency and a voice with us soccer. SoCal heads took that to us soccer which is why now you have a vague options for parents to say what they think and a more thorough option for coaching directors.

This is all just for show at this point as all the governing bodies have already decided what they want to do and US soccer was the one who originally sent out the order late last year to get a plan together.

They want us to think we have a say but we don’t. They’ve already decided.

I think you're underestimating how much power MLS has within US Soccer.

I don't know why everyone assumes the MLS would oppose this, they might, or they might not care. I can't see how it impacts them much.

Everyone says it impacts teams in international competitions but the one time my US kid played in a tournament in Europe with his US team he played in a 13 division with a team of primarily 13s with a couple of 12s and that was fine with the tournament organizers. Something that never would have been ok with anyone in any US tournament but they were cool with it. The English teams, since they are also school year (September) were doing the same thing.

Seems to me the most likely thing to happen is that US soccer will say "ok we fold, no more birth year mandate from US Soccer, everyone can do what they want" at which point its pretty clear all of US Club, USYS, and AYSO will go back to school year. MLS Next may or may not. Honestly if MLS Academies played with only BY kids playing up and MLS Next teams played with SY, maybe they would be more competitive with each other.

It looks like we will see it on 25/26. Everyone goes to SY except MLS Academy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

I can give a quick summary of why.

SOCAL soccer clubs were not happy this was spring in them without notice. Many clubs are afraid of how the change will affect them financially. SoCal sent out a questionnaire about what clubs prefer. The data was pretty split down the middle with club in favor and not. One thing that was unanimous was wanting more transparency and a voice with us soccer. SoCal heads took that to us soccer which is why now you have a vague options for parents to say what they think and a more thorough option for coaching directors.

This is all just for show at this point as all the governing bodies have already decided what they want to do and US soccer was the one who originally sent out the order late last year to get a plan together.

They want us to think we have a say but we don’t. They’ve already decided.

I think you're underestimating how much power MLS has within US Soccer.

I don't know why everyone assumes the MLS would oppose this, they might, or they might not care. I can't see how it impacts them much.

Everyone says it impacts teams in international competitions but the one time my US kid played in a tournament in Europe with his US team he played in a 13 division with a team of primarily 13s with a couple of 12s and that was fine with the tournament organizers. Something that never would have been ok with anyone in any US tournament but they were cool with it. The English teams, since they are also school year (September) were doing the same thing.

Seems to me the most likely thing to happen is that US soccer will say "ok we fold, no more birth year mandate from US Soccer, everyone can do what they want" at which point its pretty clear all of US Club, USYS, and AYSO will go back to school year. MLS Next may or may not. Honestly if MLS Academies played with only BY kids playing up and MLS Next teams played with SY, maybe they would be more competitive with each other.

It looks like we will see it on 25/26. Everyone goes to SY except MLS Academy.

Why are you assuming what GA + DPL will do?

DPL has stated that they will do whatever US Soccer decides.

GA hasn't made a statement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

I can give a quick summary of why.

SOCAL soccer clubs were not happy this was spring in them without notice. Many clubs are afraid of how the change will affect them financially. SoCal sent out a questionnaire about what clubs prefer. The data was pretty split down the middle with club in favor and not. One thing that was unanimous was wanting more transparency and a voice with us soccer. SoCal heads took that to us soccer which is why now you have a vague options for parents to say what they think and a more thorough option for coaching directors.

This is all just for show at this point as all the governing bodies have already decided what they want to do and US soccer was the one who originally sent out the order late last year to get a plan together.

They want us to think we have a say but we don’t. They’ve already decided.

Sorry to burst your bubble bud.
But this was brought on by US Club soccer not US Soccer. US Soccer has no need to reverse their decision.

To be clear, US Soccer is soliciting feedback not US Club Soccer, https://dpleague.org/birth-year-update-2/.

To be clear, I don't know the position of the People's Front of Juddea in relation to the Judean People's Front with regard to change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:US SOCCER ON LINKEDIN:

Regarding the potential change from the formation of age groups based on birth year (January 1-December 31) to school year (August 1-July 31 or September 1-August 31), the U.S. Soccer Federation has formalized a feedback process 🗳️ to gather additional data from membership.

https://www.ussoccervoices.com/rsp/0acca6c7-3c55-41e9-fd37-6c10f7075e20


https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=Z5LDuK6lJE6hGYPNKbtNmwdJ_hmVx0RFujkp74TCVLFUMk1NNzg1RFBKUlBMNzJWN0E2R081Tk5NUS4u


Why are they doing this 2 weeks before a meeting?

I can give a quick summary of why.

SOCAL soccer clubs were not happy this was spring in them without notice. Many clubs are afraid of how the change will affect them financially. SoCal sent out a questionnaire about what clubs prefer. The data was pretty split down the middle with club in favor and not. One thing that was unanimous was wanting more transparency and a voice with us soccer. SoCal heads took that to us soccer which is why now you have a vague options for parents to say what they think and a more thorough option for coaching directors.

This is all just for show at this point as all the governing bodies have already decided what they want to do and US soccer was the one who originally sent out the order late last year to get a plan together.

They want us to think we have a say but we don’t. They’ve already decided.

Sorry to burst your bubble bud.
But this was brought on by US Club soccer not US Soccer. US Soccer has no need to reverse their decision.

To be clear, US Soccer is soliciting feedback not US Club Soccer, https://dpleague.org/birth-year-update-2/.

To be clear, I don't know the position of the People's Front of Juddea in relation to the Judean People's Front with regard to change.

I am the PP, and just noticed that there might be some confusion because US Club broadcast the US Soccer survey here, https://usclubsoccer.org/feedback-requested-u-s-soccer-survey-regarding-age-group-formation/.

[Anonymous]

People need to understand the real surveys from the big soccer leagues and governing bodies were sent out and completed months ago. A decision to switch back to school year cutoffs is happening. Will it be for everyone at the same time I think is more of an argument.ECNL going to switch things up right away. Everyone else will either join them in fall or they will implement with phases so each team can add a certain number of Q3/4 players for 25/26 with full implementation for 26/27.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People need to understand the real surveys from the big soccer leagues and governing bodies were sent out and completed months ago. A decision to switch back to school year cutoffs is happening. Will it be for everyone at the same time I think is more of an argument.ECNL going to switch things up right away. Everyone else will either join them in fall or they will implement with phases so each team can add a certain number of Q3/4 players for 25/26 with full implementation for 26/27.

People need to understand that you're reaching into your ass and making a statement with a 50/50 chance of being right.

Your guesses are no better than anyone else's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to understand the real surveys from the big soccer leagues and governing bodies were sent out and completed months ago. A decision to switch back to school year cutoffs is happening. Will it be for everyone at the same time I think is more of an argument.ECNL going to switch things up right away. Everyone else will either join them in fall or they will implement with phases so each team can add a certain number of Q3/4 players for 25/26 with full implementation for 26/27.

People need to understand that you're reaching into your ass and making a statement with a 50/50 chance of being right.

Your guesses are no better than anyone else's.

I saw the surveys my friend and even got to give my opinion on some things. I chose school year because it’s what is best for the majority of kids. That’s right people who have a say read your message boards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to understand the real surveys from the big soccer leagues and governing bodies were sent out and completed months ago. A decision to switch back to school year cutoffs is happening. Will it be for everyone at the same time I think is more of an argument.ECNL going to switch things up right away. Everyone else will either join them in fall or they will implement with phases so each team can add a certain number of Q3/4 players for 25/26 with full implementation for 26/27.

People need to understand that you're reaching into your ass and making a statement with a 50/50 chance of being right.

Your guesses are no better than anyone else's.

Haha. So good.