ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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I hear will be implemented as my player club is already talking about it

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Nah. It operated as school year just fine for dozens and dozens of years. It's NBD to change back. It won't go to grad year--too hard to logistically implement vs. showing a birth certifcate--unlike HS sports, club soccer does not have access to school administration/registration records. SY will be just fine as is.
Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

That's not how things worked before 2018 when all the leagues were SY (before switching to BY).

Why do you think ECNL wants GY now? They haven't made any statements that GY is in any way being considered.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

That's not how things worked before 2018 when all the leagues were SY (before switching to BY).

Why do you think ECNL wants GY now? They haven't made any statements that GY is in any way being considered.

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Different poster but if any change, I think it should be GY. Only issue is enforcing whether it's true. I can see people lying to have their kid play up or vice versa at the younger ages. The problem with any date other than BY is that every state is going to be different and it often doesn't match GY so you'll have kids born in August that are in 9th grade but playing with 8th graders at club. If the intent is for recruiting purposes then all players should be playing with their same GY.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

That's not how things worked before 2018 when all the leagues were SY (before switching to BY).

Why do you think ECNL wants GY now? They haven't made any statements that GY is in any way being considered.

.

Different poster but if any change, I think it should be GY. Only issue is enforcing whether it's true. I can see people lying to have their kid play up or vice versa at the younger ages. The problem with any date other than BY is that every state is going to be different and it often doesn't match GY so you'll have kids born in August that are in 9th grade but playing with 8th graders at club. If the intent is for recruiting purposes then all players should be playing with their same GY.

Ok so you're saying that SY will become GY because schools start between Sept and July and potentially there will be some trapped players still.

Well first this is an edge case of an edge case. Second players can always play up if the cutoff date is Aug 1st.

The only group that is specifically affected are the kids held back for wins. They won't be able to play against kids in their grade. These players have to play up with kids their age.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

That's not how things worked before 2018 when all the leagues were SY (before switching to BY).

Why do you think ECNL wants GY now? They haven't made any statements that GY is in any way being considered.

.

Different poster but if any change, I think it should be GY. Only issue is enforcing whether it's true. I can see people lying to have their kid play up or vice versa at the younger ages. The problem with any date other than BY is that every state is going to be different and it often doesn't match GY so you'll have kids born in August that are in 9th grade but playing with 8th graders at club. If the intent is for recruiting purposes then all players should be playing with their same GY.

Ok so you're saying that SY will become GY because schools start between Sept and July and potentially there will be some trapped players still.

Well first this is an edge case of an edge case. Second players can always play up if the cutoff date is Aug 1st.

The only group that is specifically affected are the kids held back for wins. They won't be able to play against kids in their grade. These players have to play up with kids their age.

I realize some parents are stomping their feet up and down, crying because they really want to cheat by playing down.

We all understand how "good" your kid could be if they could just play against other kids that are a year or two younger.

If you need to cheat just have your doctor prescribe HGH so your kid can "heal from injuries faster". This is the sports parent equivalent to the private school parents who cheat by holding their kid back so they can have an advantage academically.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

That's not how things worked before 2018 when all the leagues were SY (before switching to BY).

Why do you think ECNL wants GY now? They haven't made any statements that GY is in any way being considered.

.

Different poster but if any change, I think it should be GY. Only issue is enforcing whether it's true. I can see people lying to have their kid play up or vice versa at the younger ages. The problem with any date other than BY is that every state is going to be different and it often doesn't match GY so you'll have kids born in August that are in 9th grade but playing with 8th graders at club. If the intent is for recruiting purposes then all players should be playing with their same GY.

Ok so you're saying that SY will become GY because schools start between Sept and July and potentially there will be some trapped players still.

Well first this is an edge case of an edge case. Second players can always play up if the cutoff date is Aug 1st.

The only group that is specifically affected are the kids held back for wins. They won't be able to play against kids in their grade. These players have to play up with kids their age.

I realize some parents are stomping their feet up and down, crying because they really want to cheat by playing down.

We all understand how "good" your kid could be if they could just play against other kids that are a year or two younger.

If you need to cheat just have your doctor prescribe HGH so your kid can "heal from injuries faster". This is the sports parent equivalent to the private school parents who cheat by holding their kid back so they can have an advantage academically.

Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

That's not how things worked before 2018 when all the leagues were SY (before switching to BY).

Why do you think ECNL wants GY now? They haven't made any statements that GY is in any way being considered.

.

Different poster but if any change, I think it should be GY. Only issue is enforcing whether it's true. I can see people lying to have their kid play up or vice versa at the younger ages. The problem with any date other than BY is that every state is going to be different and it often doesn't match GY so you'll have kids born in August that are in 9th grade but playing with 8th graders at club. If the intent is for recruiting purposes then all players should be playing with their same GY.

Ok so you're saying that SY will become GY because schools start between Sept and July and potentially there will be some trapped players still.

Well first this is an edge case of an edge case. Second players can always play up if the cutoff date is Aug 1st.

The only group that is specifically affected are the kids held back for wins. They won't be able to play against kids in their grade. These players have to play up with kids their age.

I realize some parents are stomping their feet up and down, crying because they really want to cheat by playing down.

We all understand how "good" your kid could be if they could just play against other kids that are a year or two younger.

If you need to cheat just have your doctor prescribe HGH so your kid can "heal from injuries faster". This is the sports parent equivalent to the private school parents who cheat by holding their kid back so they can have an advantage academically.

Huh?

What don't you understand gomer?

Playing down for wins is cheating
Taking PEDs for wins is cheating

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

That's not how things worked before 2018 when all the leagues were SY (before switching to BY).

Why do you think ECNL wants GY now? They haven't made any statements that GY is in any way being considered.

.

Different poster but if any change, I think it should be GY. Only issue is enforcing whether it's true. I can see people lying to have their kid play up or vice versa at the younger ages. The problem with any date other than BY is that every state is going to be different and it often doesn't match GY so you'll have kids born in August that are in 9th grade but playing with 8th graders at club. If the intent is for recruiting purposes then all players should be playing with their same GY.

Ok so you're saying that SY will become GY because schools start between Sept and July and potentially there will be some trapped players still.

Well first this is an edge case of an edge case. Second players can always play up if the cutoff date is Aug 1st.

The only group that is specifically affected are the kids held back for wins. They won't be able to play against kids in their grade. These players have to play up with kids their age.

I realize some parents are stomping their feet up and down, crying because they really want to cheat by playing down.

We all understand how "good" your kid could be if they could just play against other kids that are a year or two younger.

If you need to cheat just have your doctor prescribe HGH so your kid can "heal from injuries faster". This is the sports parent equivalent to the private school parents who cheat by holding their kid back so they can have an advantage academically.

Huh?

What don't you understand gomer?

Playing down for wins is cheating
Taking PEDs for wins is cheating

I think you lost me when you went off the deep end with the cheating rant and HGH. Sounds a little... unhinged. Hope you're ok.

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For my DS, he'll be eligible to stay on his team, ENCL-RL where he starts, but he won't know ahead of time if older Q4 kids are coming down to take his starting spot. Being on the team but on the bench isn't that appealing.

The other options would be to go for a spot on the younger RL team, which would pretty much be guaranteed or try for the National team in the younger bracket.

Choices choices.

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Thats the issue im hearing people complaign about the most. Starting vs bench.

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Anonymous wrote:Thats the issue im hearing people complaign about the most. Starting vs bench.

That's a silly argument because starting vs bench is not something that is guaranteed. If there are better kids, it is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m very happy they are considering Sept 1. August 1 makes no sense at all. Almost half the states are either 8/31 or 9/1. And I don’t care that my 8/2 kid will be the youngest.

Will be a different cut off depending on the state. California will be 8/1 because that’s the cutoff for most schools. Just wait and see will let each state association decide. Then ECNL will say we don’t want different cut offs and will go based off grad year. Ayso and lower comp teams will use new cutoffs.

GY will never happen because it shifts power from Clubs to Private High Schools. Why would players pay for club if HS soccer offered the same thing for free?

GY also allows held back players who are generally a year older than their classmates to play against other kids in their grade. This would kill competition and force both Club and HS teams into encouraging parents to hold back their kids for wins.

GY would be suicide for ECNL to implement. Clubs would literally leave the league because of it.

Conventional wisdom suggests it will revert back to what it was before, which seems to be what most clubs want since most were in opposition to the change when it first happened.

Agreed, and HS soccer has absolutely nothing to do with this either LOL!

I agree but there's some numbnut that keeps trying to include GY in the mix.

Well when ECNL goes to a model that resembles grad year I expect you to return here and post I am a numbnut.

I’ve heard they will have grad year for the high school senior age group. If a kid was held back they will get to compete. But it might trickle down into the high school ages.

Prepare!

Nope, clubs won't allow it.

The fact you think clubs care is adorable.
Many states have various cut offs 7/1, 8/1,9/1,10/1. You’ll have teams complain it’s unfair that this state gets an advantage over this state.
It will be Grad year. Maybe it won’t be called that but that’s what it will be.

That's not how things worked before 2018 when all the leagues were SY (before switching to BY).

Why do you think ECNL wants GY now? They haven't made any statements that GY is in any way being considered.

.

Different poster but if any change, I think it should be GY. Only issue is enforcing whether it's true. I can see people lying to have their kid play up or vice versa at the younger ages. The problem with any date other than BY is that every state is going to be different and it often doesn't match GY so you'll have kids born in August that are in 9th grade but playing with 8th graders at club. If the intent is for recruiting purposes then all players should be playing with their same GY.

Ok so you're saying that SY will become GY because schools start between Sept and July and potentially there will be some trapped players still.

Well first this is an edge case of an edge case. Second players can always play up if the cutoff date is Aug 1st.

The only group that is specifically affected are the kids held back for wins. They won't be able to play against kids in their grade. These players have to play up with kids their age.

I realize some parents are stomping their feet up and down, crying because they really want to cheat by playing down.

We all understand how "good" your kid could be if they could just play against other kids that are a year or two younger.

If you need to cheat just have your doctor prescribe HGH so your kid can "heal from injuries faster". This is the sports parent equivalent to the private school parents who cheat by holding their kid back so they can have an advantage academically.

Huh?

What don't you understand gomer?

Playing down for wins is cheating
Taking PEDs for wins is cheating

I think you lost me when you went off the deep end with the cheating rant and HGH. Sounds a little... unhinged. Hope you're ok.

As long as we agree GY is for cheaters that just want their kids to play down against competition that's a year (or more) younger.