Cliff Notes summary of MCPS boundary study fight?

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Anonymous wrote:Who is really going to be helped by this kind of musical chairs approach to redistricting? Are kids who move from WJ to Churchill , or Churchill to Wootton, really going to be better off? Will it signficantly change the FARMS mix of the various schools? Seems like a lot of inconvenience to families for not much in the way of concrete results.

Shift people around as little as possible to deal with disparities in capacity in the various schools --- which even critics will find defensible, even if it is not something that they welcome -- and leave it at that.

DP... despite what some people think, the boundary analysis is not just about diversity. It's taking a look at our current boundaries, and even in the western side of the county, some of the boundaries are wacky. Those need to be redrawn, too.


Why fix boundaries where there isn’t a problem? Do you want them to all be a perfect circle? Never going to happen. It’s wasteful and harms communities and kids to break up schools.

There is a problem. It's called "over crowded". Many of the clusters are very overcrowded, while neighboring ones are under capacity. But instead of rezoning and balancing capacity, MCPS has been adding new builds. Now, that is a huge waste of money.

People like you claim that the new boundaries that MCPS *might* draw will make no sense, but you seem fine with the current boundaries that make no sense.

Kids move schools all the time. My kids had to when we moved from a different state; I had to move different schools, so did DH, so did my nieces and nephews. And they and I were ALL fine. Get over yourself. Moving schools is not "harmful" or else the military would be harming military brats who switch schools very often. Same for foreign service officers' children.

This is about your property value, and nothing else. At least be honest about it.


+1 How much of the anxiety over redistricting is coming from people with high-priced houses in places like southern Kensington that feed into Walter Johnson but are much, much closer to Einstein? It's not the school system's job to care about the value of your house, nor should it be.


No, it's the school system's job to educate kids, although I don't have faith in the system. But that's another story.

It is a hardship on families who have lost value on their homes. And families, as a result, will be looking for ways to protect themselves.

funny how SJW become offended when people worry over home values - Let it be, folks! We all have different outlooks; our perspectives drive our actions. In other words, you do you and don't worry about others. If redistricting is your thing, be happy! There's no need to slam people with a different viewpoint.


Who's offended? Worry about your property value all you like. Just don't insist, as the PP said, that it's the school system's job to care about your property value.


Where did I INSIST that it's the school system's job to worry about my property value? Read the part in bold, and then forgive yourself for reprimanding me.



Dude. If it's not about you, why make it about you?

There are people - people who are not you - who are insisting that it's the school system's job to worry about their property values. Talk to them, if you like, or don't, if you don't.

(I am not the PP who used dude.)
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This fight is about people who benefit monetarily from the current boundaries. They will fight any change to the status quo.
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Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.
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Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Yes definitely you tell them fix it before making the white kids go there.
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Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Define "fix" and "desirable."

The county believes the redistricting will "fix" issues with reputation.
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Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Define "fix" and "desirable."

The county believes the redistricting will "fix" issues with reputation.


yawn Einstein has a cohort of top performing kids. can someone explain what the issue is.... oh wait property values
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I read an article about population growth in Frederick (MD). The country is trying to be smart about it by preserving rural (farming) communities, but demand is high, especially in the areas that border Mo Co.

Driving 70 E is shocking, as there are new developments popping up.

Not everyone is a Mo Co fan. But b/c of its size, it becomes the "it" county to residents, as moving from SS to Olney, for example, is like moving to a different region altogether.

I'm not too sure that Mo Co's narcissistic "personality" sees beyond its own boundaries. That's certainly true of the school system.
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Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Define "fix" and "desirable."

The county believes the redistricting will "fix" issues with reputation.


yawn Einstein has a cohort of top performing kids. can someone explain what the issue is.... oh wait property values


These cohorts are in bubbles. I've taught cohorts. They travel in groups throughout the day. Furthermore, these cohorts are a small part of the school population. So what's your point?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Define "fix" and "desirable."

The county believes the redistricting will "fix" issues with reputation.


yawn Einstein has a cohort of top performing kids. can someone explain what the issue is.... oh wait property values


These cohorts are in bubbles. I've taught cohorts. They travel in groups throughout the day. Furthermore, these cohorts are a small part of the school population. So what's your point?


That's basically what a cohort is. Otherwise it's not a cohort.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



I'm all for updating the boundaries and personally believe diversity is also as important as the other factors but given that WJ and Einstein are severely overcrowded and Woodward is opening somewhere between these schools, I have no idea how this will play out. I believe things will be fine.
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Anonymous wrote:I read an article about population growth in Frederick (MD). The country is trying to be smart about it by preserving rural (farming) communities, but demand is high, especially in the areas that border Mo Co.

Driving 70 E is shocking, as there are new developments popping up.

Not everyone is a Mo Co fan. But b/c of its size, it becomes the "it" county to residents, as moving from SS to Olney, for example, is like moving to a different region altogether.

I'm not too sure that Mo Co's narcissistic "personality" sees beyond its own boundaries. That's certainly true of the school system.


Where did you read this article? Because if there's one thing Frederick County has NOT historically been known for, it's preserving farmland.
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Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Define "fix" and "desirable."

The county believes the redistricting will "fix" issues with reputation.


yawn Einstein has a cohort of top performing kids. can someone explain what the issue is.... oh wait property values


These cohorts are in bubbles. I've taught cohorts. They travel in groups throughout the day. Furthermore, these cohorts are a small part of the school population. So what's your point?


That's basically what a cohort is. Otherwise it's not a cohort.


no sh*t, Sherlock

schools w/in schools - not exactly a way to reinforce the strategy behind redistricting . . .
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Define "fix" and "desirable."

The county believes the redistricting will "fix" issues with reputation.


yawn Einstein has a cohort of top performing kids. can someone explain what the issue is.... oh wait property values


These cohorts are in bubbles. I've taught cohorts. They travel in groups throughout the day. Furthermore, these cohorts are a small part of the school population. So what's your point?


That's basically what a cohort is. Otherwise it's not a cohort.


no sh*t, Sherlock

schools w/in schools - not exactly a way to reinforce the strategy behind redistricting . . .


All the studies indicate it will improve things.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Define "fix" and "desirable."

The county believes the redistricting will "fix" issues with reputation.


yawn Einstein has a cohort of top performing kids. can someone explain what the issue is.... oh wait property values


These cohorts are in bubbles. I've taught cohorts. They travel in groups throughout the day. Furthermore, these cohorts are a small part of the school population. So what's your point?


That's basically what a cohort is. Otherwise it's not a cohort.


no sh*t, Sherlock

schools w/in schools - not exactly a way to reinforce the strategy behind redistricting . . .


All the studies indicate it will improve things.


what? cohorts? (You certainly know the reason we have magnets in MCPS, yes?)

or redistricting?

If it's the latter, only time will tell. Until then, let's study Ho Co very closely.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cliff notes version of the boundary study fight is this map:

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WalterJohnsonHS.pdf

plus a search of values of homes in in southern Kensington that currently feed into Walter Johnson but are unlikely to continue as such since they are much closer to Einstein.



Sounds like the solution is to fix Einstein so it's a more desirable school.


Define "fix" and "desirable."

The county believes the redistricting will "fix" issues with reputation.


yawn Einstein has a cohort of top performing kids. can someone explain what the issue is.... oh wait property values


These cohorts are in bubbles. I've taught cohorts. They travel in groups throughout the day. Furthermore, these cohorts are a small part of the school population. So what's your point?


That's basically what a cohort is. Otherwise it's not a cohort.


no sh*t, Sherlock

schools w/in schools - not exactly a way to reinforce the strategy behind redistricting . . .


All the studies indicate it will improve things.


what? cohorts? (You certainly know the reason we have magnets in MCPS, yes?)

or redistricting?

If it's the latter, only time will tell. Until then, let's study Ho Co very closely.


Yes, the BOE believes redistricting will improve their ability to educate based on mountains of data. I know some people are afraid that their property values might be affected and are using all kinds of excuses to deny the need, but its mostly just misguided fear-mongering.
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