Are there any legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree residents should have voting representation in Congress. DC borders should include the White House, the Capitol, the Mall, and all contiguous federal land.

The residential areas should be offered back to Maryland because it is Maryland’s land. MD state government can then either accept or formally reject. If they reject, the residential areas become a new state with a new name.

I support DC statehood.

-Maryland resident

I support DC rejoining MD.

-DC resident

Ward map https://planning.dc.gov/whatsmyward
DC as 1 Maryland County or split between wards with some to MOCO, some PG, some DC county and wards 2 and 6 split removing residential where possible and forming a federal district? Or that part to Arlington?

Now on taxes. If I'm a retiree getting 65k annually from pension plus social security I'd pay MOCO is 1.79 times the taxes as DC and higher property taxes. Need a count on residential real estate in wards 2 and 6. Everything else is any easy spin-off to Maryland- a DC county, some to MOCO, some to PG.

The above is logical but one goal for some is to get 2 more senators for a voting block. A weird state boundary today is DE and MD. The whole peninsula could become DE and maybe leave the tail totally in VA? Ocean City would be in DE.

[Anonymous]

West Virginia and Virginia should merge as Racistlandia
Maryland and Delaware would then merge as Delmariya.
DC stays as a district - but exempt from federal taxes, the draft, free college, all residents eligible for Medicare regardless of income.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

Ok, and Wyoming is essentially 97,000 square miles of sagebrush. So what?

Also, if North Dakota and South Dakota get to be separate states, then Montgomery County MD should get to be a separate state too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

OP was looking for legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

OP was looking for legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood

The Founding Fathers explicitly did not want the national capital to be a state and have the voting rights of a state. They wanted to keep it as neutral as possible. I support that and see no reason for changing it.

Everyone knew what the rules were when they moved to DC.If voting rights and representation are so important to them, move to MD or VA. Not that hard.

A decent compromise could be to carve out the federal parts of the District like the Vatican is independent from the Rome, and have the rest of the district merged with Maryland. Problem solved. Now why isn't that a serious option? It'd mean MD would never, ever, have a Republican governor again but it avoids the partisan problem of the movement while giving proper representation to DC residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

OP was looking for legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood

The Founding Fathers explicitly did not want the national capital to be a state and have the voting rights of a state. They wanted to keep it as neutral as possible. I support that and see no reason for changing it.

Everyone knew what the rules were when they moved to DC.If voting rights and representation are so important to them, move to MD or VA. Not that hard.

A decent compromise could be to carve out the federal parts of the District like the Vatican is independent from the Rome, and have the rest of the district merged with Maryland. Problem solved. Now why isn't that a serious option? It'd mean MD would never, ever, have a Republican governor again but it avoids the partisan problem of the movement while giving proper representation to DC residents.

We see you, racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

OP was looking for legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood

The Founding Fathers explicitly did not want the national capital to be a state and have the voting rights of a state. They wanted to keep it as neutral as possible. I support that and see no reason for changing it.

Everyone knew what the rules were when they moved to DC.If voting rights and representation are so important to them, move to MD or VA. Not that hard.

A decent compromise could be to carve out the federal parts of the District like the Vatican is independent from the Rome, and have the rest of the district merged with Maryland. Problem solved. Now why isn't that a serious option? It'd mean MD would never, ever, have a Republican governor again but it avoids the partisan problem of the movement while giving proper representation to DC residents.

We see you, racist.

Uh - where is the racism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

OP was looking for legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood

The Founding Fathers explicitly did not want the national capital to be a state and have the voting rights of a state. They wanted to keep it as neutral as possible. I support that and see no reason for changing it.

Everyone knew what the rules were when they moved to DC.If voting rights and representation are so important to them, move to MD or VA. Not that hard.

A decent compromise could be to carve out the federal parts of the District like the Vatican is independent from the Rome, and have the rest of the district merged with Maryland. Problem solved. Now why isn't that a serious option? It'd mean MD would never, ever, have a Republican governor again but it avoids the partisan problem of the movement while giving proper representation to DC residents.

We see you, racist.

Uh - where is the racism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

OP was looking for legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood

The Founding Fathers explicitly did not want the national capital to be a state and have the voting rights of a state. They wanted to keep it as neutral as possible. I support that and see no reason for changing it.

Everyone knew what the rules were when they moved to DC.If voting rights and representation are so important to them, move to MD or VA. Not that hard.

A decent compromise could be to carve out the federal parts of the District like the Vatican is independent from the Rome, and have the rest of the district merged with Maryland. Problem solved. Now why isn't that a serious option? It'd mean MD would never, ever, have a Republican governor again but it avoids the partisan problem of the movement while giving proper representation to DC residents.

We see you, racist.

Uh - where is the racism?

There is a poster for whom representation is not why they support statehood and they deem any solution to the taxation without representation problem as racist. Congressional representation is not their priority — they would rather remain a district with no voting rights in Congress than gain representation (and remove Congressional interference) as a part of Maryland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

OP was looking for legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood

The Founding Fathers explicitly did not want the national capital to be a state and have the voting rights of a state. They wanted to keep it as neutral as possible. I support that and see no reason for changing it.

Everyone knew what the rules were when they moved to DC.If voting rights and representation are so important to them, move to MD or VA. Not that hard.

A decent compromise could be to carve out the federal parts of the District like the Vatican is independent from the Rome, and have the rest of the district merged with Maryland. Problem solved. Now why isn't that a serious option? It'd mean MD would never, ever, have a Republican governor again but it avoids the partisan problem of the movement while giving proper representation to DC residents.

We see you, racist.

Uh - where is the racism?

There is a poster for whom representation is not why they support statehood and they deem any solution to the taxation without representation problem as racist. Congressional representation is not their priority — they would rather remain a district with no voting rights in Congress than gain representation (and remove Congressional interference) as a part of Maryland.

There are posters who do not live in DC yet because the inhabitants are largely POC they, inhaling deeply in their white privilege, believe said POC (and all POC) to be too stupid or corrupt or criminal to have home home-rule. They further, tapping that deep vein of privilege, presume to divvy up DC in the manner of a colonial power. This is absolutely racism - and we will continue to call you out on it. Sorry if the truth hurts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC will never be a state and the Democrats are just trolling their own. It's a medium sized city.

This.

It's essentially one oversized corporate campus.

OP was looking for legitimate reasons why someone would oppose DC statehood

The Founding Fathers explicitly did not want the national capital to be a state and have the voting rights of a state. They wanted to keep it as neutral as possible. I support that and see no reason for changing it.

Everyone knew what the rules were when they moved to DC.If voting rights and representation are so important to them, move to MD or VA. Not that hard.

A decent compromise could be to carve out the federal parts of the District like the Vatican is independent from the Rome, and have the rest of the district merged with Maryland. Problem solved. Now why isn't that a serious option? It'd mean MD would never, ever, have a Republican governor again but it avoids the partisan problem of the movement while giving proper representation to DC residents.

We see you, racist.

Uh - where is the racism?

There is a poster for whom representation is not why they support statehood and they deem any solution to the taxation without representation problem as racist. Congressional representation is not their priority — they would rather remain a district with no voting rights in Congress than gain representation (and remove Congressional interference) as a part of Maryland.

There are posters who do not live in DC yet because the inhabitants are largely POC they, inhaling deeply in their white privilege, believe said POC (and all POC) to be too stupid or corrupt or criminal to have home home-rule. They further, tapping that deep vein of privilege, presume to divvy up DC in the manner of a colonial power. This is absolutely racism - and we will continue to call you out on it. Sorry if the truth hurts.

So - when the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution they fully envisioned that DC would, 200 years later, be a majority black town and deliberately set it up so that DC would never have voting rights specifically to keep black people oppressed? And that for most of DC history up to the 1960s it was a majority white town and its residents were deliberately disenfranchised for colonialist or racist reasons?

Got it.

DC is no longer majority AA and the share is rapidly falling with each year so it's no guarantee that any statehood would give DC more POC senators (or governor - would there be one?)

[Anonymous]

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So - when the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution they fully envisioned that DC would, 200 years later, be a majority black town and deliberately set it up so that DC would never have voting rights specifically to keep black people oppressed? And that for most of DC history up to the 1960s it was a majority white town and its residents were deliberately disenfranchised for colonialist or racist reasons?

Got it.

DC is no longer majority AA and the share is rapidly falling with each year so it's no guarantee that any statehood would give DC more POC senators (or governor - would there be one?)

There's nothing in the constitution that says there can't be voting rights for DC residents. So we don't have to worry about what the framers and ratifiers of the constitution may or may not have intended.

[Anonymous]

Fold it into Maryland?

[Anonymous]

Living in DC is a choice.

If you want a state, then there are two to choose from next door.