ICE Raids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how every American isn’t outraged? Why are women and mothers being deported? The felon told us it would be violent criminals.

Chris Murphy said Noem is already over budget and will run out of $$ before the end of the fiscal year. She has also diverted $$ from other critical functions, like cybersecurity, which puts us at risk.

She is a danger to this country. This should scare the f out of everyone.

No he said mass deportations of illegal immigrants, with a priority on criminals.
Apparently Democrats feel anyone who makes it into America can stay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how every American isn’t outraged? Why are women and mothers being deported? The felon told us it would be violent criminals.

Chris Murphy said Noem is already over budget and will run out of $$ before the end of the fiscal year. She has also diverted $$ from other critical functions, like cybersecurity, which puts us at risk.

She is a danger to this country. This should scare the f out of everyone.

Aren't the women here illegally? Does being a woman exempt you from consequences of not following the law? Why wouldn't they be deported?

He lied get it maga moron.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to explain exactly why these people are being terrorized and what threat they present to the general public.

https://bsky.app/profile/theswprincess.bsky.social/post/3loqlw7znfk2n

Also, how does this help with inflation or any of the other issues facing our country?

Who do you think is paying for their medical care and public school services?

They are paying taxes. Clearly you don't understand that, but they are.

Their taxes do not cover the cost of heightened services they need in schools. Citizens are covering their ER medical costs.

According to this research, undocumented people pay more in taxes than the services they consume: https://www.kff.org/racial-e

Please cite your research.

That does not hold true in areas with large numbers of undocumented renters.

They still pay income taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes on vehicles, etc., and, if you understand economics, renters pay property tax indirectly because the landlord includes the cost of the property tax in the rent price.

They get free medical care and schooling at the expense of American taxpayers, I understand the desire to do better for your family but either we have laws as a country or we don't. Resources are not infinite, people are simply fed up, Americans have been generous for a very long time but it's not sustainable. This is not about being mean or nasty, it's just that this set up is simply not sustainable.

They pay the same taxes you do.

No, many of them do not. You are either extremely naive or being intentionally obtuse. When mom, dad, three kids or more, and grandma, grandpa and others live in a cheap apartment, mobile home or small rental, they are not paying the anount in taxes needed to support their medical care, birth of more babies, and all the supports they receive in the puvlic schools. .

Actual economics undermine your stereotypical false assumptions.

Come to Atlanta and check out schools and emergency rooms. I voted for Hartis, but I'm not going to deny what's happening. .

What happened on our southern border for 4 years under Biden/Harris was not immigration.

It was an invasion.

Yes we get it you watch FOX news

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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to explain exactly why these people are being terrorized and what threat they present to the general public.

https://bsky.app/profile/theswprincess.bsky.social/post/3loqlw7znfk2n

Also, how does this help with inflation or any of the other issues facing our country?

Who do you think is paying for their medical care and public school services?

They are paying taxes. Clearly you don't understand that, but they are.

Their taxes do not cover the cost of heightened services they need in schools. Citizens are covering their ER medical costs.

According to this research, undocumented people pay more in taxes than the services they consume: https://www.kff.org/racial-e

Please cite your research.

That does not hold true in areas with large numbers of undocumented renters.

They still pay income taxes, payroll taxes, sales taxes, excise taxes, property taxes on vehicles, etc., and, if you understand economics, renters pay property tax indirectly because the landlord includes the cost of the property tax in the rent price.

They get free medical care and schooling at the expense of American taxpayers, I understand the desire to do better for your family but either we have laws as a country or we don't. Resources are not infinite, people are simply fed up, Americans have been generous for a very long time but it's not sustainable. This is not about being mean or nasty, it's just that this set up is simply not sustainable.

They pay the same taxes you do.

No, many of them do not. You are either extremely naive or being intentionally obtuse. When mom, dad, three kids or more, and grandma, grandpa and others live in a cheap apartment, mobile home or small rental, they are not paying the anount in taxes needed to support their medical care, birth of more babies, and all the supports they receive in the puvlic schools. .

Actual economics undermine your stereotypical false assumptions.

Come to Atlanta and check out schools and emergency rooms. I voted for Hartis, but I'm not going to deny what's happening. .

What happened on our southern border for 4 years under Biden/Harris was not immigration.

It was an invasion.

Yes we get it you watch FOX news

Not at all, but I don't live unaware in a New England state with few undocumented immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how every American isn’t outraged? Why are women and mothers being deported? The felon told us it would be violent criminals.

Chris Murphy said Noem is already over budget and will run out of $$ before the end of the fiscal year. She has also diverted $$ from other critical functions, like cybersecurity, which puts us at risk.

She is a danger to this country. This should scare the f out of everyone.

Why should women be exempt from deportation?

And I’m fine with spending money, lots of necessary, to purge and deport. It will have us billions in the long run.

[Anonymous]

It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how every American isn’t outraged? Why are women and mothers being deported? The felon told us it would be violent criminals.

Chris Murphy said Noem is already over budget and will run out of $$ before the end of the fiscal year. She has also diverted $$ from other critical functions, like cybersecurity, which puts us at risk.

She is a danger to this country. This should scare the f out of everyone.

No he said mass deportations of illegal immigrants, with a priority on criminals.
Apparently Democrats feel anyone who makes it into America can stay.

No, the issue is that if the people being deported are not given their constitutional rights to due process, then NO ONE gets constitutional rights to due process. Personally, I like that provision of the US Constitution and feel it is worth fighting for, even if I don't like some of the people who also receive that treatment. It is part of what actually makes America great and if we lose it, then America is no longer great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Don't forget about being counted in the Census for allocation of House seats, Electoral College votes, and eventually the ability to vote in elections.

Here's a deal for Democrats in favor of "due process" (full trials, etc...) for illegal aliens. Until that due process is provided, NONE of these will be permitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how every American isn’t outraged? Why are women and mothers being deported? The felon told us it would be violent criminals.

Chris Murphy said Noem is already over budget and will run out of $$ before the end of the fiscal year. She has also diverted $$ from other critical functions, like cybersecurity, which puts us at risk.

She is a danger to this country. This should scare the f out of everyone.

No he said mass deportations of illegal immigrants, with a priority on criminals.
Apparently Democrats feel anyone who makes it into America can stay.

Where's this supposed priority on violent criminals and gang members? It's so pathetic that Trump is making it up with dumb pictures where people photoshopped the letters M S 1 3 on hand tattoos.

Wake up and grow up. There's no prioritization whatsoever. They are going after harmless maids and kitchen staff and people who are the lifeblood of many American businesses. And no, I don't think "anyone who makes it into America can stay" - I think we need to fix the visa program but racist Republicans don't even want to do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Don't forget about being counted in the Census for allocation of House seats, Electoral College votes, and eventually the ability to vote in elections.

Here's a deal for Democrats in favor of "due process" (full trials, etc...) for illegal aliens. Until that due process is provided, NONE of these will be permitted.

Given most of these people are in Texas, Oklahoma, Iowa and Arizona, I am not sure why you raise this as a complaint.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

PP here. It is a huge problem, for sure; but Democrats who minimize the impact (many on this forum) are likely not impacted by the burden placed on social services, hospitals, and schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually won’t save us in the long run. The resources to do this costs money and the lost economic benefits cost money- it is a lose-lose to stroke your hate.

You are correct (see below). But it's never been about the money. Americans have been railing against certain groups of migrants since our founding.

Studies estimate mass deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants costs $315-$967.9 billion, with detention alone at $167.8 billion. They contribute $96.7 billion annually in taxes, potentially rising to $136.9 billion with work authorization. Legalization could add $1.5-$1.7 trillion to GDP over 10 years. From a financial perspective, legalizing undocumented immigrants is more beneficial.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org
https://unidosus.org
https://itep.org

Yes, it's very expensive and due process takes a very long time. Such a shame that Biden and his cohorts thought it was okay to allow millions to cross the border with little to no vetting and then allow them to get lost in the system and give birth to anchor babies reside in sanctuary cities, go free with little to no bail if they committed crimes, enroll kids in school with no questions asked, etc.

Biden was following international and US law. The courts overtuned tools that Trump had used so Biden didn't have the same legal discretion. That is why the bi-partisan bill was needed, to fix the rules and add funding for more administrative judges to hear these cases more expediently. The bill also would have funded fentenyl scanners at the border. But trump got the GOP to tank the bill, so we still don't have a good solution. But unleashing ICE and flouting Habeas Corpus are not good solutions.

PP here. It is a huge problem, for sure; but Democrats who minimize the impact (many on this forum) are likely not impacted by the burden placed on social services, hospitals, and schools.

PP left out that the border would remain open to thousands streaming across until it could be closed. If it had required the border be closed completely, Trump might have supported it (but Democrats wouldn't).