Is uva a prestigious college?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA engineering is not ranked as high as the few other public schools, like Berkeley, Michigan and UIUC, but you don't want to discount the overall environment and experience of the school like UVA.

The problem with those public colleges is that they are too large. Each of those schools has almost twice as many undergrads as UVA. Overcrowding is generally a characteristic of a public school, which sometime makes the students feel they are left on their own to float or sink. No one cares because the classes are too big and there are too many students for professors to know a student's existence (if professors teach at all). But UVA, with its much smaller student body, is significantly better in this regard. Plus, UVA has a very tight knit community (maybe due to its unique college town setting that is not too far or too close to a metropolitan city) and its widely publicized beautiful campus helps too. Students generally feel warm and cozy on the campus of this size. You will cherish this 4 year college experience in your whole life. I think this is important too when one considers which college to go.

In terms of prestige (which in essence is more a perception), I would agree with the notion that the top bracket probably goes to the traditional top 5 (HYMPS, which is world wide famous). The next 25 on the US News ranking list is no significant difference with some stronger than other in certain area and vice versa. UVA is in that category.

Why do people say it’s beautiful? Parts of it are historically significant and pleasant, but I wouldn’t say beautiful. More like charming in a shabby way.

In Virginia, I'd say at least Richmond, W&M, and W&L have prettier campuses.

Don’t forget Sweetbriar (which I think still exists).

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UVA, especially certain grad programs, has been very well respected for decades. As nova has filled up with the children of brilliant people, it has become an extremely tough school to get into. Sure, one had to be a very solid and well rounded student in the early 1990s to be admitted. But it was NOTHING like it is today.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, especially certain grad programs, has been very well respected for decades. As nova has filled up with the children of brilliant people, it has become an extremely tough school to get into. Sure, one had to be a very solid and well rounded student in the early 1990s to be admitted. But it was NOTHING like it is today.

Is that really true? I remember acceptance rates in periods that were similar to today. Yield rates used to be higher, I believe. They keep changing SAT, so difficult to compare. Average scores are higher, but you have to adjust for the test changes. It was actually recentered up back in the 1990s because averages had gone down 100 points. And GPAs from high school reflect high school grade inflation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA engineering is not ranked as high as the few other public schools, like Berkeley, Michigan and UIUC, but you don't want to discount the overall environment and experience of the school like UVA.

The problem with those public colleges is that they are too large. Each of those schools has almost twice as many undergrads as UVA. Overcrowding is generally a characteristic of a public school, which sometime makes the students feel they are left on their own to float or sink. No one cares because the classes are too big and there are too many students for professors to know a student's existence (if professors teach at all). But UVA, with its much smaller student body, is significantly better in this regard. Plus, UVA has a very tight knit community (maybe due to its unique college town setting that is not too far or too close to a metropolitan city) and its widely publicized beautiful campus helps too. Students generally feel warm and cozy on the campus of this size. You will cherish this 4 year college experience in your whole life. I think this is important too when one considers which college to go.

In terms of prestige (which in essence is more a perception), I would agree with the notion that the top bracket probably goes to the traditional top 5 (HYMPS, which is world wide famous). The next 25 on the US News ranking list is no significant difference with some stronger than other in certain area and vice versa. UVA is in that category.

Why do people say it’s beautiful? Parts of it are historically significant and pleasant, but I wouldn’t say beautiful. More like charming in a shabby way.

In Virginia, I'd say at least Richmond, W&M, and W&L have prettier campuses.

Don’t forget Sweetbriar (which I think still exists).

Yes. Beautiful school. It is a shame what has happened there. I hope they recover.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid is savvy enough to get into a top tier Greek house, yeah, prestigious. Greek life owns the university.

No, it doesn’t. It’s not 1986 anymore.

Yes, the UVA alums who don't go Greek like Tina Fey (and the other 75% of students) are complete failures . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA, especially certain grad programs, has been very well respected for decades. As nova has filled up with the children of brilliant people, it has become an extremely tough school to get into. Sure, one had to be a very solid and well rounded student in the early 1990s to be admitted. But it was NOTHING like it is today.

Is that really true? I remember acceptance rates in periods that were similar to today. Yield rates used to be higher, I believe. They keep changing SAT, so difficult to compare. Average scores are higher, but you have to adjust for the test changes. It was actually recentered up back in the 1990s because averages had gone down 100 points. And GPAs from high school reflect high school grade inflation.

Yes, it's true. Top 25% of ENROLLED (that's a lower stat than ADMITTED) 2017 students had a 4.44; median had a 4.29; bottom 25% had a 4.14 high school GPA. ACT top 25% is 33-35. SAT is 1500 for top 25%; 1400 for median and 1320 for bottom 25%. The statistics for the enrolled class of 2018 will be higher. http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Statistics for the ADMITTED class of 2022 is an accepted mean SAT of 1,431 and 93 percent ranking in the top 10 percent of their graduating high school class. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-admissions-decisions-and-uva22-begins-trending-grounds. Go read up on UVA in college confidential, especially the stats on the students who were rejected or put on waitlist. The talent that is turned away is amazing. Va Tech also is going now through a surge of applications but it is behind UVA. It, too, is becoming much more difficult to get into.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA engineering is not ranked as high as the few other public schools, like Berkeley, Michigan and UIUC, but you don't want to discount the overall environment and experience of the school like UVA.

The problem with those public colleges is that they are too large. Each of those schools has almost twice as many undergrads as UVA. Overcrowding is generally a characteristic of a public school, which sometime makes the students feel they are left on their own to float or sink. No one cares because the classes are too big and there are too many students for professors to know a student's existence (if professors teach at all). But UVA, with its much smaller student body, is significantly better in this regard. Plus, UVA has a very tight knit community (maybe due to its unique college town setting that is not too far or too close to a metropolitan city) and its widely publicized beautiful campus helps too. Students generally feel warm and cozy on the campus of this size. You will cherish this 4 year college experience in your whole life. I think this is important too when one considers which college to go.

In terms of prestige (which in essence is more a perception), I would agree with the notion that the top bracket probably goes to the traditional top 5 (HYMPS, which is world wide famous). The next 25 on the US News ranking list is no significant difference with some stronger than other in certain area and vice versa. UVA is in that category.

I think there are 22 public engineering schools ranked at the same level or above UVA in USNews. That is a lot more than "a few".

All I know is that my daughter's roommate at UVA majored in engineering and had job offers out the wazoo before graduation. It was incredible. She took an offer from out west -- yes, folks, to an area of the country where "nobody has ever heard of UVA" -- and is already making six figures at 27.

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents are jealous of UVA. It’s incredible.

Guessing you’re one of them.

Hardly. Two of my kids went there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA, especially certain grad programs, has been very well respected for decades. As nova has filled up with the children of brilliant people, it has become an extremely tough school to get into. Sure, one had to be a very solid and well rounded student in the early 1990s to be admitted. But it was NOTHING like it is today.

Is that really true? I remember acceptance rates in periods that were similar to today. Yield rates used to be higher, I believe. They keep changing SAT, so difficult to compare. Average scores are higher, but you have to adjust for the test changes. It was actually recentered up back in the 1990s because averages had gone down 100 points. And GPAs from high school reflect high school grade inflation.

Yes, it's true. Top 25% of ENROLLED (that's a lower stat than ADMITTED) 2017 students had a 4.44; median had a 4.29; bottom 25% had a 4.14 high school GPA. ACT top 25% is 33-35. SAT is 1500 for top 25%; 1400 for median and 1320 for bottom 25%. The statistics for the enrolled class of 2018 will be higher. http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Statistics for the ADMITTED class of 2022 is an accepted mean SAT of 1,431 and 93 percent ranking in the top 10 percent of their graduating high school class. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-admissions-decisions-and-uva22-begins-trending-grounds. Go read up on UVA in college confidential, especially the stats on the students who were rejected or put on waitlist. The talent that is turned away is amazing. Va Tech also is going now through a surge of applications but it is behind UVA. It, too, is becoming much more difficult to get into.

Your numbers from SCHEV (which I agree is the most reputable source) aren't quite accurate. The 75 percentile for ENROLLED students is 1480, not 1500, and the 75th ACT composite is 33 -- not 35. The 25/75 range for the the SAT is 1320 to 1480 and the ACT is 29-33.

By comparison, the ranges for 2008 were 1240 to 1420.

[Anonymous]

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All I know is that my daughter's roommate at UVA majored in engineering and had job offers out the wazoo before graduation. It was incredible. She took an offer from out west -- yes, folks, to an area of the country where "nobody has ever heard of UVA" -- and is already making six figures at 27.

Female engineer is underrepresented, so of course she had a haul of offers. And if she's "UVA cute" probably 10x the offers from thirsty tech dorks.

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If there is 22 pages discussing this question ... The answer is an obvious no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
All I know is that my daughter's roommate at UVA majored in engineering and had job offers out the wazoo before graduation. It was incredible. She took an offer from out west -- yes, folks, to an area of the country where "nobody has ever heard of UVA" -- and is already making six figures at 27.

Female engineer is underrepresented, so of course she had a haul of offers. And if she's "UVA cute" probably 10x the offers from thirsty tech dorks.

Way to give the young woman credit, asshole

[Anonymous]

Further proof of UVA’s prestige:

http://publicuniversityhonors.com/2016/11/21/rhodes-scholars-2017-ivies-down-a-bit-uva-has-two/

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Anonymous wrote:If there is 22 pages discussing this question ... The answer is an obvious no.

+1000.

Funny as can be!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA, especially certain grad programs, has been very well respected for decades. As nova has filled up with the children of brilliant people, it has become an extremely tough school to get into. Sure, one had to be a very solid and well rounded student in the early 1990s to be admitted. But it was NOTHING like it is today.

Is that really true? I remember acceptance rates in periods that were similar to today. Yield rates used to be higher, I believe. They keep changing SAT, so difficult to compare. Average scores are higher, but you have to adjust for the test changes. It was actually recentered up back in the 1990s because averages had gone down 100 points. And GPAs from high school reflect high school grade inflation.

Yes, it's true. Top 25% of ENROLLED (that's a lower stat than ADMITTED) 2017 students had a 4.44; median had a 4.29; bottom 25% had a 4.14 high school GPA. ACT top 25% is 33-35. SAT is 1500 for top 25%; 1400 for median and 1320 for bottom 25%. The statistics for the enrolled class of 2018 will be higher. http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Statistics for the ADMITTED class of 2022 is an accepted mean SAT of 1,431 and 93 percent ranking in the top 10 percent of their graduating high school class. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-admissions-decisions-and-uva22-begins-trending-grounds. Go read up on UVA in college confidential, especially the stats on the students who were rejected or put on waitlist. The talent that is turned away is amazing. Va Tech also is going now through a surge of applications but it is behind UVA. It, too, is becoming much more difficult to get into.

I was responding more to the comment about the "mid-1990s" than the last couple of years. I recall periods of rising selectivity before. With both the GPA and SAT, you have to take into account that average high school GPAs are rising and the SAT has been adjusted a couple of times.

Your numbers from SCHEV (which I agree is the most reputable source) aren't quite accurate. The 75 percentile for ENROLLED students is 1480, not 1500, and the 75th ACT composite is 33 -- not 35. The 25/75 range for the the SAT is 1320 to 1480 and the ACT is 29-33.

By comparison, the ranges for 2008 were 1240 to 1420.