Is uva a prestigious college?

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to get into? Yes, but I wouldn’t call it prestigious. It’s just a well regarded big state school like Michigan or UCLA.

I think Michigan is more highly regarded. Never even heard of UVA until I moved to DC eight years ago.

Seriously? I am from Florida and I knew about William & Mary (considered going there) and the University of Virginia, and I graduated high school in the 80s. However, in my household, really only the service academies (West Point, Navy) ranked as well as anyone who defeated Notre Dame!

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Anonymous wrote:Most state flagships are prestigious within their state. If a state flagship had over 25% or more of it's student body from out of state and has convinced them to pay out of state tuition without having to pull them in with substantial merit grants, then it is definitely prestigious outside the state as well because now these kids are choosing it over some private schools. I think UVA is over 30% out of state. That qualifies as prestigious in my book and I'm not from Virginia

And Michigan is at 50/50.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/03/29/university-michigan-nearly-half-students-now-from-out-state/PuwM6sQz164bOjttH1RDPN/amp.html

Basing prestige on how many out of state students doesn’t really make sense because states are different in their policies/laws regarding how many they’ll accept. For example Michigan says straight out that they love out of state students because they bring with them $60K/year, vs. instate kids who only bring in ~25K/year (and are more likely to need fin aid) and it’s a means by which they can balance budget woes. Whereas a state like North Carolina has *laws* that state that a certain percentage of the UNCCH incoming class MUST come from North Carolina.

Another example: University of Vermont is 79% out of state. West Virginia is 48% out of state. UDel is 65% out of state. On the other hand, UC Berkeley is 15% out of state, UW Madison is 26% out of state, UCLA is 16% out of state. I think we can all agree that UC Berkeley holds way more cache than University of Delaware or West Virginia University...

Wait wait — You think University of Michigan has budget woes? LOL

Michigan’s endowment was 11 billion in 2017. Yes they love out of state tuition, but they aren’t exactly strapped for cash!

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Only in VA. Outside of VA? No.

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The New York Times regularly includes UVA as the only state school among its lists of elite colleges. There is no question that is considered very prestigious in NYC. Clearly at a minimum the school’s reputation extends beyond the Commonwealth.

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Anonymous wrote:Uva has no zero Nobel laureates.

And Chicago has no national championships.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is ahead of Michigan in all the public university rankings. In some, UVA is even ahead of UCLA and Berkeley.

UVA no. 1 public university in the nation. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2016/09/uva-ranked-best-public-college-business-insider

No. 2 public university: https://news.virginia.edu/content/among-nations-elite-us-news-gives-uva-no-2-public-university-ranking

UVA no. 3 behind berkely and UCLA but ahead of Michigan. https://news.virginia.edu/content/us-news-lists-uva-among-top-three-public-universities-27th-straight-year'

UCLA and UVA tied for no. 2. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/ucla-named-among-nations-top-public-universities-in-2015-u-s-news-and-world-report-rankings

UVA ranks 2nd public universities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia

That’s because it’s 3 spots ahead of Michigan in US News, which is barely a difference, really. The point stands that Michigan provides a more broadly excellent education. All you have to do is look at grad dept rankings, which signal the quality of academic opportunities afforded to both grad students and undergrads, since strong grad programs mean better research opportunities for undergrads too. Michigan wins handily on that.

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I graduated from UVA. I don't consider it to be particularly prestigious. It's a nice school with some excellent departments but I have no burning desire for my child to go there.

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Anonymous wrote:I graduated from UVA. I don't consider it to be particularly prestigious. It's a nice school with some excellent departments but I have no burning desire for my child to go there.

Well put and you're an alum. Why do you ask OP? It's a fine state university, but not particularly "pretigious".

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Anonymous wrote:Most state flagships are prestigious within their state. If a state flagship had over 25% or more of it's student body from out of state and has convinced them to pay out of state tuition without having to pull them in with substantial merit grants, then it is definitely prestigious outside the state as well because now these kids are choosing it over some private schools. I think UVA is over 30% out of state. That qualifies as prestigious in my book and I'm not from Virginia

And Michigan is at 50/50.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/03/29/university-michigan-nearly-half-students-now-from-out-state/PuwM6sQz164bOjttH1RDPN/amp.html

Basing prestige on how many out of state students doesn’t really make sense because states are different in their policies/laws regarding how many they’ll accept. For example Michigan says straight out that they love out of state students because they bring with them $60K/year, vs. instate kids who only bring in ~25K/year (and are more likely to need fin aid) and it’s a means by which they can balance budget woes. Whereas a state like North Carolina has *laws* that state that a certain percentage of the UNCCH incoming class MUST come from North Carolina.

Another example: University of Vermont is 79% out of state. West Virginia is 48% out of state. UDel is 65% out of state. On the other hand, UC Berkeley is 15% out of state, UW Madison is 26% out of state, UCLA is 16% out of state. I think we can all agree that UC Berkeley holds way more cache than University of Delaware or West Virginia University...

Wait wait — You think University of Michigan has budget woes? LOL

Michigan’s endowment was 11 billion in 2017. Yes they love out of state tuition, but they aren’t exactly strapped for cash!

That’s not how this works...

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I grew up in a small factory town in the middle of nowhere in the midwest in the early 1980s where 50% of my classmates didn't even go to college and even in that setting I knew enough to apply to UVA and a couple Ivys. Got into an Ivy but not UVA.

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Why do we always have to have this silly argument? Of course UVA is a prestigious college. Its undergraduate program is extremely selective in state and at an Ivy League level out of state. It ranks i 8th in the country in the number of Rhodes Scholarship winners -- tied with Chicago, ahead of Duke, Cornell, and Columbia and is the top public school by far -- and its admissions committee routinely travels jointly with Harvard and Yale to give presentations. The Wall Street Journal ranks it, Michigan, Berkeley, and New College of Florida as the only state schools in the top 50 "feeder schools" to the nation's top law, business and med schools, and UVA's own law, business and med schools are again at Ivy League levels. UVA's endowment per student is the only public school in the top 20 (again on par with Cornell) and is well ahead of Michigan.

UVA certainly is not the research powerhouse that Michigan, Wisconsin, or the bigger UCs are, but it's also half their size and its emphasis has always been on its undergraduate and professional programs.

The only people on this board who think that UVA isn't prestigious is people whose kids can't get in.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we always have to have this silly argument? Of course UVA is a prestigious college. Its undergraduate program is extremely selective in state and at an Ivy League level out of state. It ranks i 8th in the country in the number of Rhodes Scholarship winners -- tied with Chicago, ahead of Duke, Cornell, and Columbia and is the top public school by far -- and its admissions committee routinely travels jointly with Harvard and Yale to give presentations. The Wall Street Journal ranks it, Michigan, Berkeley, and New College of Florida as the only state schools in the top 50 "feeder schools" to the nation's top law, business and med schools, and UVA's own law, business and med schools are again at Ivy League levels. UVA's endowment per student is the only public school in the top 20 (again on par with Cornell) and is well ahead of Michigan.

UVA certainly is not the research powerhouse that Michigan, Wisconsin, or the bigger UCs are, but it's also half their size and its emphasis has always been on its undergraduate and professional programs.

The only people on this board who think that UVA isn't prestigious is people whose kids can't get in.

I don't think it's undergraduate education is any great shakes. I don't think it's even ranked that highly, whereas W&M is 7th on U.S. News. (I will look this up and eat my words if I am wrong :lol

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Anonymous wrote:Uva has no zero Nobel laureates.

You've brought this up before. You seem to think undergrads benefit from having a Nobel laureate on campus. They don't. They might see one from afar, but they'll never be in a lab with one.

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Anonymous wrote:No, not nationally. It’s only popular in this area. None of my CA friends have even heard of it.

+1 Grew up in CA, never heard of it until I moved here

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If it wasn't known outside Virginia, how are these out of state numbers possible?

Total Applications
Total applications: 37,222 (36,779 last year)
Total number of VA apps: 11,338
Total number of OOS apps: 25,884
We use completed applications in our statistics.

Total Offers of Admission
Overall offers: 9,849
Total VA offers: 4,303 (38% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 5,546 (21.4% offer rate)