Pray for Charlotte, NC

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:HELLO, PEOPLE!

THE OFFICER IS BLACK, OK? WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THE RIOTING FOR??!??

Someone upthread implied that the black officer might have become racist because he was under the influence of white racist cops. So even though a black cop did the killing, it's still the white man's fault.

No. what I said was, there are those who state that. I didn't imply it was true or that I believed it. And I think people say that because they have to fit it into their 'agenda'.

My mistake, then....you weren't referring specifically to yourself. But the point is the same. While you do not necessarily think the black cop could "turn" racist due to white influence, there are those who do. And, in those cases, whites are still being blamed for the bad action of blacks.

The two of you are having a discussion of a point that neither one of you -- nor any other poster here for the matter -- actually made. I've heard of straw men arguments, but this is ridiculous. One person invents a straw man, another quotes that person, then they discuss it among themselves. How about we just stick to things that have actually been said by actual posters rather than the imaginary ones that speak to you through your dog?

What is really ridiculous is the riots alleging racism, given that THE OFFICER IS BLACK!

BLM is ridiculous. It's proven itself a purely anti-police movement. All lives matter!

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HELLO, PEOPLE!

THE OFFICER IS BLACK, OK? WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THE RIOTING FOR??!??

Someone upthread implied that the black officer might have become racist because he was under the influence of white racist cops. So even though a black cop did the killing, it's still the white man's fault.

No. what I said was, there are those who state that. I didn't imply it was true or that I believed it. And I think people say that because they have to fit it into their 'agenda'.

My mistake, then....you weren't referring specifically to yourself. But the point is the same. While you do not necessarily think the black cop could "turn" racist due to white influence, there are those who do. And, in those cases, whites are still being blamed for the bad action of blacks.

The two of you are having a discussion of a point that neither one of you -- nor any other poster here for the matter -- actually made. I've heard of straw men arguments, but this is ridiculous. One person invents a straw man, another quotes that person, then they discuss it among themselves. How about we just stick to things that have actually been said by actual posters rather than the imaginary ones that speak to you through your dog?

What is really ridiculous is the riots alleging racism, given that THE OFFICER IS BLACK!

BLM is ridiculous. It's proven itself a purely anti-police movement. All lives matter!

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

+1.

They said the same thing about King.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HELLO, PEOPLE!

THE OFFICER IS BLACK, OK? WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THE RIOTING FOR??!??

Someone upthread implied that the black officer might have become racist because he was under the influence of white racist cops. So even though a black cop did the killing, it's still the white man's fault.

Its always the white mans fault. Always.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because the police officer shooter in Charlotte was black doesn't mean there wasn't any racial overtones in his decision to shoot. I don't know know how any American can ignore the phenomena that black males, in a variety of situations, seem to be shot by police under circumstances where it seems t should have been a last resort but instead just became Plan B. If the civilian had been a white woman or Asian man, would the police just shot them. Lately we've had, all black males, been pulled over for expired tags who disclosed he had a legal open carry and was shot in front of his partner and child, been shot with their hands up as they were waiting for some side of roadside assistance, been shot when served a warrant, been shot when not responding to orders and he turned out to be autistic, etc. How many females or men of other races do you have these random circumstances just get shot when a police officer should have the training and support to try other alternatives to access and rectify the situation? Do police officers have, on average, more patience and more willingness to try harder to diffuse with nonblack males and females?

police, regardless of race, seem to have a fear and preconceived notion that black males, in particular larger (tall, etc.) are aggressive and are more likely to hurt the officer. The tension is there at the initial exchange, as soon as words are exchanged. I am white, but my BIL is a very dark black male, and my BFF is a 40 year old very muscular black man, and both of them have told me stories for years about this. It doesn't matter if the cop is black, it's a cop thing in general. They get pulled over for BS reasons all the time. Both are scared as hell to even get their license out their wallet.

My question is why do you think police have that bias?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HELLO, PEOPLE!

THE OFFICER IS BLACK, OK? WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THE RIOTING FOR??!??

Someone upthread implied that the black officer might have become racist because he was under the influence of white racist cops. So even though a black cop did the killing, it's still the white man's fault.

No. what I said was, there are those who state that. I didn't imply it was true or that I believed it. And I think people say that because they have to fit it into their 'agenda'.

My mistake, then....you weren't referring specifically to yourself. But the point is the same. While you do not necessarily think the black cop could "turn" racist due to white influence, there are those who do. And, in those cases, whites are still being blamed for the bad action of blacks.

The two of you are having a discussion of a point that neither one of you -- nor any other poster here for the matter -- actually made. I've heard of straw men arguments, but this is ridiculous. One person invents a straw man, another quotes that person, then they discuss it among themselves. How about we just stick to things that have actually been said by actual posters rather than the imaginary ones that speak to you through your dog?

What is really ridiculous is the riots alleging racism, given that THE OFFICER IS BLACK!

BLM is ridiculous. It's proven itself a purely anti-police movement. All lives matter!

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

+1.

They said the same thing about King.

If you said that as a serious comment your knowledge on this subject is scant. Also, attempting to tie events of the 50's and 60's to actions of others today, given the events and legislation over the last 50 years, is ridiculous.

Now, if only there was a leader of his strength, resolve, intelligence and dedication willing to stand and deliver then I would be right there with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HELLO, PEOPLE!

THE OFFICER IS BLACK, OK? WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THE RIOTING FOR??!??

Someone upthread implied that the black officer might have become racist because he was under the influence of white racist cops. So even though a black cop did the killing, it's still the white man's fault.

No. what I said was, there are those who state that. I didn't imply it was true or that I believed it. And I think people say that because they have to fit it into their 'agenda'.

My mistake, then....you weren't referring specifically to yourself. But the point is the same. While you do not necessarily think the black cop could "turn" racist due to white influence, there are those who do. And, in those cases, whites are still being blamed for the bad action of blacks.

The two of you are having a discussion of a point that neither one of you -- nor any other poster here for the matter -- actually made. I've heard of straw men arguments, but this is ridiculous. One person invents a straw man, another quotes that person, then they discuss it among themselves. How about we just stick to things that have actually been said by actual posters rather than the imaginary ones that speak to you through your dog?

What is really ridiculous is the riots alleging racism, given that THE OFFICER IS BLACK!

BLM is ridiculous. It's proven itself a purely anti-police movement. All lives matter!

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

+1.

They said the same thing about King.

If you said that as a serious comment your knowledge on this subject is scant. Also, attempting to tie events of the 50's and 60's to actions of others today, given the events and legislation over the last 50 years, is ridiculous.

Now, if only there was a leader of his strength, resolve, intelligence and dedication willing to stand and deliver then I would be right there with them.

Absolutely this. I am jealous that my parents got to attend one of his speeches and march with him.

I cannot get behind this violence and vitriol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bringing out the National Guard last night seems to have worked. One needs to present a strong front to violent people. Weakness and "giving them space to destroy" (as was the Baltimore mayor's approach) doesn't work.

(And I could expand it more globally, too. Playing "nice-nice" with bullies simply emboldens them. Look at how Iran is behaving after Obama caved in on the Iranian deal.)

I don't like being cynical but my first thought was, guess there wasn't anything left to steal so the looters/criminals stayed home getting high and enjoying the fruits of their illegal activity.

That said, I was glad that those who wanted to protest and be heard had an opportunity to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HELLO, PEOPLE!

THE OFFICER IS BLACK, OK? WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THE RIOTING FOR??!??

Someone upthread implied that the black officer might have become racist because he was under the influence of white racist cops. So even though a black cop did the killing, it's still the white man's fault.

No. what I said was, there are those who state that. I didn't imply it was true or that I believed it. And I think people say that because they have to fit it into their 'agenda'.

My mistake, then....you weren't referring specifically to yourself. But the point is the same. While you do not necessarily think the black cop could "turn" racist due to white influence, there are those who do. And, in those cases, whites are still being blamed for the bad action of blacks.

The two of you are having a discussion of a point that neither one of you -- nor any other poster here for the matter -- actually made. I've heard of straw men arguments, but this is ridiculous. One person invents a straw man, another quotes that person, then they discuss it among themselves. How about we just stick to things that have actually been said by actual posters rather than the imaginary ones that speak to you through your dog?

What is really ridiculous is the riots alleging racism, given that THE OFFICER IS BLACK!

BLM is ridiculous. It's proven itself a purely anti-police movement. All lives matter!

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

I don't understand comments like this. BLM is not some marginalized, fringe group. Most educated, established black folks I know--which includes lawyers, physicians, PhDs--supports the movement in principle. And many open-minded non-black friends do too.

I like this IG photo of HBS students I saw today:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKq6ucChZr3/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HELLO, PEOPLE!

THE OFFICER IS BLACK, OK? WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THE RIOTING FOR??!??

Someone upthread implied that the black officer might have become racist because he was under the influence of white racist cops. So even though a black cop did the killing, it's still the white man's fault.

No. what I said was, there are those who state that. I didn't imply it was true or that I believed it. And I think people say that because they have to fit it into their 'agenda'.

My mistake, then....you weren't referring specifically to yourself. But the point is the same. While you do not necessarily think the black cop could "turn" racist due to white influence, there are those who do. And, in those cases, whites are still being blamed for the bad action of blacks.

The two of you are having a discussion of a point that neither one of you -- nor any other poster here for the matter -- actually made. I've heard of straw men arguments, but this is ridiculous. One person invents a straw man, another quotes that person, then they discuss it among themselves. How about we just stick to things that have actually been said by actual posters rather than the imaginary ones that speak to you through your dog?

What is really ridiculous is the riots alleging racism, given that THE OFFICER IS BLACK!

BLM is ridiculous. It's proven itself a purely anti-police movement. All lives matter!

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

+1.

They said the same thing about King.

If you said that as a serious comment your knowledge on this subject is scant. Also, attempting to tie events of the 50's and 60's to actions of others today, given the events and legislation over the last 50 years, is ridiculous.

Now, if only there was a leader of his strength, resolve, intelligence and dedication willing to stand and deliver then I would be right there with them.

Absolutely this. I am jealous that my parents got to attend one of his speeches and march with him.

I cannot get behind this violence and vitriol.

I was only able to march in spirit. The day he was killed was a terrible day. I can still recall the anger and fear I had and the tears that followed.

No one came to the fore after his death with anything near what her was able to provide and none since. Some of the more visible are about lining their pockets.

[Anonymous]

A suspect has been arrested for the murder of a protester Wednesday night.

[Anonymous]

Charlotte police announced the arrest of a suspect in Wednesday’s fatal shooting of a protester, a killing witnesses initially insisted was carried out by police.

Rayquan Borum, 21, was charged Friday morning in shooting death of Justin Carr, who died a day during protests in Trade Street, Charlotte Police Chief Kerr Putney said.

Putney said surveillance footage from buildings and businesses in the area helped identify the suspect. The shooting occurred Wednesday night, and Charlotte police initially said the man had died although he survived on life support until Thursday. Witnesses gave conflicting accounts about who shot him, with some insisting they saw police gun him down with rubber bullets, while others said he was killed by a fellow protester.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/23/police-announce-arrest-in-shooting-death-at-charlotte-riot.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A suspect has been arrested for the murder of a protester Wednesday night.

That's good news!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

I don't understand comments like this. BLM is not some marginalized, fringe group. Most educated, established black folks I know--which includes lawyers, physicians, PhDs--supports the movement in principle. And many open-minded non-black friends do too.

There's nothing to understand.
Nothing spews from the lips of people afflicted with hard-headed ignorance and infected with high-horsed arrogance but nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

I don't understand comments like this. BLM is not some marginalized, fringe group. Most educated, established black folks I know--which includes lawyers, physicians, PhDs--supports the movement in principle. And many open-minded non-black friends do too.

There's nothing to understand.
Nothing spews from the lips of people afflicted with hard-headed ignorance and infected with high-horsed arrogance but nonsense.

Everyone thinks the "agitators" are the cause of the problem. They said the same thing in Mississippi during segregation. Why are these agitators stirring up trouble? The negro and the white are happy the way things are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HELLO, PEOPLE!

THE OFFICER IS BLACK, OK? WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THE RIOTING FOR??!??

Someone upthread implied that the black officer might have become racist because he was under the influence of white racist cops. So even though a black cop did the killing, it's still the white man's fault.

No. what I said was, there are those who state that. I didn't imply it was true or that I believed it. And I think people say that because they have to fit it into their 'agenda'.

My mistake, then....you weren't referring specifically to yourself. But the point is the same. While you do not necessarily think the black cop could "turn" racist due to white influence, there are those who do. And, in those cases, whites are still being blamed for the bad action of blacks.

The two of you are having a discussion of a point that neither one of you -- nor any other poster here for the matter -- actually made. I've heard of straw men arguments, but this is ridiculous. One person invents a straw man, another quotes that person, then they discuss it among themselves. How about we just stick to things that have actually been said by actual posters rather than the imaginary ones that speak to you through your dog?

What is really ridiculous is the riots alleging racism, given that THE OFFICER IS BLACK!

BLM is ridiculous. It's proven itself a purely anti-police movement. All lives matter!

BLM is setting back race relations two generations.

I don't understand comments like this. BLM is not some marginalized, fringe group. Most educated, established black folks I know--which includes lawyers, physicians, PhDs--supports the movement in principle. And many open-minded non-black friends do too.

I like this IG photo of HBS students I saw today:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKq6ucChZr3/

Once BLM came out with their list of "demands," which reeked of hostility - even hatred - toward whites, along with their anti-Israel rantings, I lost any modicum of respect for them. They should be out there on the airwaves, imploring the rioters to behave peacefully, lest they feed the very sterotypes they are trying to dispel. They were better last night - thanks, National Guard - but the previous two nights showed why police might be nervous around blacks and, in a freak-out moment, prematurely pull the trigger.