My daughter is the only white girl in her grade: ask me anything

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hispanic PP:

OP here. I understand why you feel marginalized in these conversations. However, I would respectfully ask that you pay at least as much attention to my responses to your concerns as you do to the omission of "non-Latino" (or "non-Hispanic" which you seem to prefer). I think I was pretty clear about the ethnic makeup of the school in all but my original post as well as the cultural differences that accompany a Latino majority school for an English speaking ethnically Northern European family. Thank you.

And I respectfully ask you to notice that your response still comes under a factually wrong and offensive title, and that you have (apparently) ignored my suggestion to have the thread retitled a more accurate "AMA: Why my daughter loves her Hispanic-majority school."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hispanic PP:

OP here. I understand why you feel marginalized in these conversations. However, I would respectfully ask that you pay at least as much attention to my responses to your concerns as you do to the omission of "non-Latino" (or "non-Hispanic" which you seem to prefer). I think I was pretty clear about the ethnic makeup of the school in all but my original post as well as the cultural differences that accompany a Latino majority school for an English speaking ethnically Northern European family. Thank you.

And I respectfully ask you to notice that your response still comes under a factually wrong and offensive title, and that you have (apparently) ignored my suggestion to have the thread retitled a more accurate "AMA: Why my daughter loves her Hispanic-majority school."

Factually wrong, I get. But can you explain how grouping Hispanics with racial minorities is actually *offensive*?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hispanic PP:

OP here. I understand why you feel marginalized in these conversations. However, I would respectfully ask that you pay at least as much attention to my responses to your concerns as you do to the omission of "non-Latino" (or "non-Hispanic" which you seem to prefer). I think I was pretty clear about the ethnic makeup of the school in all but my original post as well as the cultural differences that accompany a Latino majority school for an English speaking ethnically Northern European family. Thank you.

And I respectfully ask you to notice that your response still comes under a factually wrong and offensive title, and that you have (apparently) ignored my suggestion to have the thread retitled a more accurate "AMA: Why my daughter loves her Hispanic-majority school."

Factually wrong, I get. But can you explain how grouping Hispanics with racial minorities is actually *offensive*?

Because we're not a race, but an ethnicity, and in choosing to repeatedly ignore this difference (assuming you are OP) you are actively choosing to ignore our identity and, by extension, us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hispanic PP:

OP here. I understand why you feel marginalized in these conversations. However, I would respectfully ask that you pay at least as much attention to my responses to your concerns as you do to the omission of "non-Latino" (or "non-Hispanic" which you seem to prefer). I think I was pretty clear about the ethnic makeup of the school in all but my original post as well as the cultural differences that accompany a Latino majority school for an English speaking ethnically Northern European family. Thank you.

And I respectfully ask you to notice that your response still comes under a factually wrong and offensive title, and that you have (apparently) ignored my suggestion to have the thread retitled a more accurate "AMA: Why my daughter loves her Hispanic-majority school."

Factually wrong, I get. But can you explain how grouping Hispanics with racial minorities is actually *offensive*?

Because we're not a race, but an ethnicity, and in choosing to repeatedly ignore this difference (assuming you are OP) you are actively choosing to ignore our identity and, by extension, us.

Your beef is with DCPS because DCPS uses White and Hispanic. Which you should actually recognize over an improvement of including all Hispanics in the White category, but you have some other point to make.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hispanic PP:

OP here. I understand why you feel marginalized in these conversations. However, I would respectfully ask that you pay at least as much attention to my responses to your concerns as you do to the omission of "non-Latino" (or "non-Hispanic" which you seem to prefer). I think I was pretty clear about the ethnic makeup of the school in all but my original post as well as the cultural differences that accompany a Latino majority school for an English speaking ethnically Northern European family. Thank you.

And I respectfully ask you to notice that your response still comes under a factually wrong and offensive title, and that you have (apparently) ignored my suggestion to have the thread retitled a more accurate "AMA: Why my daughter loves her Hispanic-majority school."

Factually wrong, I get. But can you explain how grouping Hispanics with racial minorities is actually *offensive*?

Because we're not a race, but an ethnicity, and in choosing to repeatedly ignore this difference (assuming you are OP) you are actively choosing to ignore our identity and, by extension, us.

Your beef is with DCPS because DCPS uses White and Hispanic. Which you should actually recognize over an improvement of including all Hispanics in the White category, but you have some other point to make.

You are wrong. DCPS would never say OP's daughter is the "only white girl" in her grade. OP chose to hide in her title and opening post the fact that most classmates are Hispanic -- that would have been pretty obvious looking at DCPS stats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hispanic PP:

OP here. I understand why you feel marginalized in these conversations. However, I would respectfully ask that you pay at least as much attention to my responses to your concerns as you do to the omission of "non-Latino" (or "non-Hispanic" which you seem to prefer). I think I was pretty clear about the ethnic makeup of the school in all but my original post as well as the cultural differences that accompany a Latino majority school for an English speaking ethnically Northern European family. Thank you.

And I respectfully ask you to notice that your response still comes under a factually wrong and offensive title, and that you have (apparently) ignored my suggestion to have the thread retitled a more accurate "AMA: Why my daughter loves her Hispanic-majority school."

Factually wrong, I get. But can you explain how grouping Hispanics with racial minorities is actually *offensive*?

Because we're not a race, but an ethnicity, and in choosing to repeatedly ignore this difference (assuming you are OP) you are actively choosing to ignore our identity and, by extension, us.

Your beef is with DCPS because DCPS uses White and Hispanic. Which you should actually recognize over an improvement of including all Hispanics in the White category, but you have some other point to make.

You are wrong. DCPS would never say OP's daughter is the "only white girl" in her grade. OP chose to hide in her title and opening post the fact that most classmates are Hispanic -- that would have been pretty obvious looking at DCPS stats.

OP here.

I just looked at the DCPS school profile. The "demographics" section list Black, Hispanic/Latino, White, Asian, Pacific/Hawaiian, Native/Alaskan, and Multiple Races. It is clear that DCPS, at the very least, distinguishes between "Hispanic/Latino" and "White" when reporting the demographics of their students. At this point, you and I will have to agree to disagree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is she aware that she is "different"?

Sometimes. She is aware that she does not speak Spanish like many of her friends. She also knows that she has different hair. Other than that, no.

Aren't latino's white?

Did anyone come to her birthday party?

NP. Yes, Zoe Saldana, Jimmy Smits, Rosario Dawson, Rosie Perez, and LaLa Anthony are white.

Race and ethnicity 101 time. Latinos can be multiple races. You have Latinos from Spain who look basically white; and you have Latinos from the DR who look basically black; and you have Latinos from Mexico who look indigenous. The new trend in collecting data on Latinos is to let them indicate their Latino ethnicity and chose a race or nationality as well.

Just saw this in one of the first pages. So it's obvious that OP's mislabeling has been confusing folks from the very beginning.

Why not simply fix the mistake? Too much for OP's ego to acknowledge that her kid is not the only white girl in her grade?

[Anonymous]

OP you are wrong. It's not your fault - you probably didn't know.

The demographic profiles show ethnicity and race. But the forms you fill out for school, the census and everything else will always say white - non hispanic, and white - hispanic descent. You would check another box if you were, say, Afro-Cuban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you are wrong. It's not your fault - you probably didn't know.

The demographic profiles show ethnicity and race. But the forms you fill out for school, the census and everything else will always say white - non hispanic, and white - hispanic descent. You would check another box if you were, say, Afro-Cuban.

I filled out the sane forms that you did, PP. However, the data published by DCPS online in the school profiles contains the categories listed above. At this point, I am inclined to agree with the PP who said that your objection is to being associated with other non-whites. I don't think you are being reasonable, and at this point, you are actively trolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you are wrong. It's not your fault - you probably didn't know.

The demographic profiles show ethnicity and race. But the forms you fill out for school, the census and everything else will always say white - non hispanic, and white - hispanic descent. You would check another box if you were, say, Afro-Cuban.

+1.

Where OP is in the wrong is in repeatedly ignoring what people are telling her.

She knows about Hispanic identity more than Hispanics do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP you are wrong. It's not your fault - you probably didn't know.

The demographic profiles show ethnicity and race. But the forms you fill out for school, the census and everything else will always say white - non hispanic, and white - hispanic descent. You would check another box if you were, say, Afro-Cuban.

I filled out the sane forms that you did, PP. However, the data published by DCPS online in the school profiles contains the categories listed above. At this point, I am inclined to agree with the PP who said that your objection is to being associated with other non-whites. I don't think you are being reasonable, and at this point, you are actively trolling.

This is insane. The poster above is not me (Hispanic parent). Can you not understand 1) there are multiple people commenting here, 2) the substantial points new PP is raising. Those DCPS categories include both race AND ethnicity. It makes zero sense, and DCPS would never say (because it's factually wrong) that OP's daughter is the "only white girl in her grade"

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Anonymous wrote:OP you are wrong. It's not your fault - you probably didn't know.

The demographic profiles show ethnicity and race. But the forms you fill out for school, the census and everything else will always say white - non hispanic, and white - hispanic descent. You would check another box if you were, say, Afro-Cuban.

I filled out the sane forms that you did, PP. However, the data published by DCPS online in the school profiles contains the categories listed above. At this point, I am inclined to agree with the PP who said that your objection is to being associated with other non-whites. I don't think you are being reasonable, and at this point, you are actively trolling.

This is insane. The poster above is not me (Hispanic parent). Can you not understand 1) there are multiple people commenting here, 2) the substantial points new PP is raising. Those DCPS categories include both race AND ethnicity. It makes zero sense, and DCPS would never say (because it's factually wrong) that OP's daughter is the "only white girl in her grade"

Maybe OP also meant both race and ethnicity when she said "white", using it as short-hand for "non-Hispanic white"? She was clearly addressing her own ethnic peers with her post. Who are you to tell her how she needs to label her own race/ethnicity? "White" for "non-Hispanic white" is incredibly common. She already apologized for offending you own need to be recognized as white, so give it a rest.

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Anonymous wrote:Hispanic PP:

OP here. I understand why you feel marginalized in these conversations. However, I would respectfully ask that you pay at least as much attention to my responses to your concerns as you do to the omission of "non-Latino" (or "non-Hispanic" which you seem to prefer). I think I was pretty clear about the ethnic makeup of the school in all but my original post as well as the cultural differences that accompany a Latino majority school for an English speaking ethnically Northern European family. Thank you.

And I respectfully ask you to notice that your response still comes under a factually wrong and offensive title, and that you have (apparently) ignored my suggestion to have the thread retitled a more accurate "AMA: Why my daughter loves her Hispanic-majority school."

Factually wrong, I get. But can you explain how grouping Hispanics with racial minorities is actually *offensive*?

Because we're not a race, but an ethnicity, and in choosing to repeatedly ignore this difference (assuming you are OP) you are actively choosing to ignore our identity and, by extension, us.

[jsteele]

I don't have a lot of time or energy at the moment, so I'll be brief (hopefully) and to the point. I am not going to change the subject line of this thread. There are 342 posts. Each one has a subject line. Some begin with "Re:" and some don't. Some users may have changed the subject when they replied -- that is possible in case you weren't aware -- just as I did in this reply. There are any number of things that I prioritize ahead of changing the subject in 342 posts.

Second, the debate over the the subject line and the OP's definition of "white" is really missing the forest for the trees. I have literally deleted pages of posts debating that topic and there are still plenty of posts on the same subject. You all have just been going in circles. If there is anyone here who doesn't get it, they never will. So, quit trying to make them. Please return to the actual subject of the thread.

Clearly, the OP's child is unique in her school as the only child of her combination of race and ethnicity. If that interests you and you have a question for the OP, please ask it. If you don't have a question but would rather insult the OP, please find something better to do. If you don't have a question for the OP and are pissed off that she didn't clarify the ethnicity portion of her child's uniqueness, your point has been made. Please move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We mark DD as white and hispanic because both are true. It's funny (not ha-ha) that people look at that on the DCPS summary and complain about "demographics" since the school shows up as <10% white.

Another example of a student and family ignored by OP.