Take care of your house. It does not matter what Johnny down the street does. You soon like a drug addiction blaming everyone for your actions. Grow up and shut up. |
+1 … dead on the money analysis. The poster accusing others of saying things they never said is the absolute worst. Be gone, pest. |
"But clearly some posters on this thread have an agenda and want criticism of anyone other than the US shut down." You keep showing yourself. |
"You're OK with killing kids" etc. |
NP. I can’t imagine why someone would purposely target a school, even with changes to the rules of engagement. But I just read an interesting article with a lot of background on how decisions to gut the military programs tasked with preventing harms to civilians could contribute to mistakes of this kind. https://www.salon.com/2026/03/11/the-us-had-a-blueprint-to-avoid-civilian-war-casualties-trump-officials-scrapped-it-partner/ The article is long and a little disorganized. As someone who doesn’t usually pay attention to military/war news, I read the whole thing and appreciated all the background, but for a tl;dr the parts that seem most relevant here are the beginning about how they fired 90% of the staff responsible for preventing civilian casualties and the very end where they mention the normal procedures for mapping military vs civilian movement patterns in an area in the days or weeks before a bombing. |
Hey, I actually didn’t say it but now that I know you’re a Zionist mouth breather, I know you not only feel that way, but that you probably personally engage in those kinds of reindeer games. Gross. You’re gross. Just a gross waste of space. |
Agree that Trump and Hegseth have made a lot of drastic changes for the worse which is likely impacting US military conduct and use of the US military in force projection. But by the same token there are clearly posters here who want to instead just broadly bash the US and label us all evil even when many of us did not vote for this and do not support it. It's a deep, dishonest pattern that repeats all across social media right now. |
There you are - the one who falsely accuses everyone of being "Zionist" and hurls personal insults rather than actually wanting to speak to any substance. You also clearly like dishonestly pretending and playing games about what you did or didn't post. |
I'm not sure how you really get to that conclusion. Nobody is saying that Iranian citizens are evil just because they're living under an evil government. Same with Russian citizens and their evil government. And same with US citizens and our evil administration. |
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Wars sucks. I wish we hadn't started one. |
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1796-George Washington farewell address
Hence, likewise, they will avoid the necessity of those overgrown military establishments, which under any form of government, are inauspicious to liberty, and which are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty… Nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachment for others should be excluded; and in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest… So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It also leads to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to be retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens, (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearance of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliance of ambition, corruption, or infatuation. Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me fellow citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. Excessive partiality for one nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real Patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interest. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible… It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world… Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations, are recommended by policy, humanity, and interest. |
Unfortunately the same cannot be said for Israeli society where the majority of the population had supported genocide/ethnic cleansing of Gaza in addition to preemptive war with Iran. That is one society that is truly evil. |
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Our first point of order should be holding ourselves accountable for our own behaviors. I know that this is entirely foreign as a concept to MAGA (that is conduct oneself with integrity and responsibility), but the rest of us will focus on how we can be better people before pointing fingers at others to rationalize our misdeeds. |
Speak for yourself. I didn't start one. Trump did - I didn't vote for him. Nor did I vote for any member of Congress going along with this shitshow. But the fact that war sucks and that Trump and Hegseth should be held accountable for it doesn't address many of the other points being made in these last few pages. |