Whose Airstrike Bombed a Girls’ School in Iran? The U.S. Says It’s Still Investigating.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

We elected American leadership, not Iranian leadership. Your post is beyond disingenuous, and you're in fact the irrelevant clown.

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Yes the school attack and the oil field ecological attack look like deliberate provocations that will ensure Iran keeps on fighting for a long, long time.

So that Israel eventually gets to have Iran bombed back into the stone age (by USA).

The continued, strong Iranian response does not prevent that happening eventually given USA/Israel could use nukes if they think they can get away with it.

For example, the argument "we had to do it to save western society from economic collapse" - doesn't even need some false flag atrocities, though they might do that too - to stiffen the popular consensus.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children?

The Iranian regime knowingly and intentionally targeted and murdered 30,000 of its own unarmed civilians and is now raining thousands of unguided cluster munitions targeting civilians all across Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:US intelligence satellite imagery is NOT Google Maps. It is very in-depth.

It can make out playgrounds, children, when kids arrive and depart, the building use on weekends versus weekdays.

Images are collated over time and an assessment in confidence levels is made.

This is why it does seem that the US deliberately target the school because they wanted to kill the children of Iranian military officers. There is no other explanation

I would hope not. That's a clear war crime. I would guess that the alphabet agencies had some old images, and were too incompetent/overstretched to check carefully to make sure they had new ones.

The satellite imagery is a constant feed. I don't understand this point of using old data. Why would old data be used when you're getting a live video of anywhere you want in the world.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children?

The Iranian regime knowingly and intentionally targeted and murdered 30,000 of its own unarmed civilians and is now raining thousands of unguided cluster munitions targeting civilians all across Israel.

Most of those were probably killed by Mossad in there typical false flag operations. We know they love to kill civilians for their own benefit.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children?

The Iranian regime knowingly and intentionally targeted and murdered 30,000 of its own unarmed civilians and is now raining thousands of unguided cluster munitions targeting civilians all across Israel.

The source of these 30,000+ figures (which is over 4x other estimates) are all affiliated with groups actively involved for the past 47 years in the effort to topple the Ayatollahs.

Even one death is horrible, of course, but let’s not pretend that Pahlavi’s crew making claims like these make them true. They may be true, but my sense is that they are dubious (at best).

Regardless, these 30,000+ claims are continually used to derail analysis of what WE have done. We don’t need Whataboutism games going back and forth to examine the facts and accept responsibility for our actions. Disingenuous is too kind of a word to describe those engaging in this scheme.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children?

The Iranian regime knowingly and intentionally targeted and murdered 30,000 of its own unarmed civilians and is now raining thousands of unguided cluster munitions targeting civilians all across Israel.

Bombing girls makes it better how exactly?

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This should make all the posters who support the US blowing up civilians on boats, double tapping shipwreck survivors and blowing up schools very happy.

Hegseth orders ‘ruthless’ review of JAGs. Some see an attempt to evade accountability
Current and former military lawyers question the secretary’s motives and timing
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Wednesday ordered an overhaul of the military’s civilian and uniformed legal offices, raising fears among current and former members of the judge advocate general corps that he will gut legal oversight of the administration’s actions.

“I'm directing the service secretaries, the Army, Navy, and Air Force through their general counsels and JAGs and the [staff judge advocate] to the commandant to execute a ruthless, no-excuses review,” Hegseth said in a video posted on Wednesday. “Scrub it clean, cut duplication and bureaucracy, clarify roles, and reporting. No more moral ambiguity.”

Members of the military’s legal community who spoke to Defense One said they are as skeptical of Hegseth’s message as they are of his timing.

The call to reorder the “current allocation of legal resources and functions” of the Defense Department’s civilian and uniformed lawyers comes as the U.S. is fighting a war with Iran—a conflict some experts have claimed is illegal, and which has involved an airstrike on an Iranian elementary school that left 175 people dead. The investigation into that airstrike is going on now, and early evidence reportedly points to the U.S. as the responsible party.

Hegseth posted his latest video a little more than a year after he fired the Army, Navy, and Air Force’s top lawyers, claiming they were “roadblocks to orders that are given by a commander in chief.”

https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2026/03/hegseth-orders-ruthless-review-jag-offices-some-see-attempt-evade-accountability/412076/

No rules of engagement but lots of war crimes!

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

Found the whataboutism stooge!

Thanks for taking time away from your busy schedule of committing genocide, tormenting and stealing land from indigenous people, and molesting children to remind us what‘s at stake here!

The jews have mastered this game of redirecting arguments and changing goalposts when it comes to defendingg Israel. And somehow they get away with it.

Educate your children about all the games they play, and how they play them. Also tell them the truth about all the atrocities that have been occurring under that banner. We need to make sure that every Gen Z/Alpha is aware exactly why America has fallen and why the national debt burden has fallen on their shoulders.

The "Iran murders thousands of its own citizens" posts have been catastrophically stupid and irrelevant from the start. We didn't elect Iranian leadership. We don't live under Iranian leadership. It's not our job to change Iranian leadership (which used to be a MAGA argument). Yet some rando poster keeps making this moronic argument.

It's pretty hillarious how Zionists cite the 30,000 number from some obscure US government affiliated source as gospel and justification for interventions when they've slaughtered several hundreds of thousands of people between Gaza and Lebanon. And who knows how many people have been killed by foreign actors aKA Israeli intelligence in Iran. If there is any country in the world that deserves to be invaded and have regime change, it would be Israel first by a huge margin.

It's pretty sick and grotesque that you consider 30,000 murdered Iranians "hilarious."

And it's not "US government sources" - it comes from numerous independent sources, including a leaked IRGC report that put the number at 36,500

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198

More citations, from sources that have been highly critical if Israel and the US:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/01/16/iran-growing-evidence-of-countrywide-massacres

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2026/01/iran-massacre-of-protesters-demands-global-diplomatic-action-to-signal-an-end-to-impunity/

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

Found the whataboutism stooge!

Thanks for taking time away from your busy schedule of committing genocide, tormenting and stealing land from indigenous people, and molesting children to remind us what‘s at stake here!

You're quite the expert in whataboutism. Any thread that calls out Islamic terrorism - especially since we've seen several recent incidents of it - is met immediately with "Whatabout those white supremacists??? Why aren't we talking about them?" Maybe one day you'll be disciplined enough to stay on topic when the topic is ISIS-aligned terrorists, the kind you love to defend.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children?

Ah. I see you still aren't able to accept the fact that the school was an UNintentional strike. Keep on peddling your propaganda.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children?

The Iranian regime knowingly and intentionally targeted and murdered 30,000 of its own unarmed civilians and is now raining thousands of unguided cluster munitions targeting civilians all across Israel.

These imbeciles do.not.care. They will take the unintentional strike on the school and use it over and over and over to defend Iran and their murdering of thousands of their own citizens. They are mentally ill.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children?

The Iranian regime knowingly and intentionally targeted and murdered 30,000 of its own unarmed civilians and is now raining thousands of unguided cluster munitions targeting civilians all across Israel.

Most of those were probably killed by Mossad in there typical false flag operations. We know they love to kill civilians for their own benefit.

JFC. You are not only sick, you're delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:Since the troll poster has requested more information from the WSJ, I'm happy to oblige with a gift link. There's a very clear satellite picture showing just how close the school is to the base. Anyone claiming that this school wasn't very much adjacent to the military base - and previously a part of it - is nutty.

The school is located on the edge of a compound linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, an elite branch of Iran’s armed forces, according to an analysis of images by The Wall Street Journal. There are indications the school building had previously been used as an IRGC headquarters, the official said.

The Journal analysis of satellite and open-source images shows the building was next to, and possibly part of, a compound linked to the IRGC. Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute specializing in Iran’s military, said visual clues such as the size, number and arrangement of structures support the assessment that the site was a base, though there was little to suggest to him that it was an important one.

Google Maps identifies one building as a “cultural complex” of the IRGC, where young members play sports and train, Nadimi said. The compound also has a medical facility. A photograph pinned to the location on Google Maps shows a sign that says, “Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy Medical Command.”

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-us-school-strike-07d8ffac?st=o8z38t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Being "close to" a base is no excuse for bombing a school. No one would be saying "oh that's ok, it's understandable they killed my kid" if their kid was killed because they attended one of the 150 DoED schools co-located on a military base.

If it was the second day of bombing, you'd better believe American parents wouldn't be sending their kids to school anywhere, much less to a school co-located on a military base. But do keep repeating yourself over and over and over...

You’re terrible. We all had to go back to school and work on 9/12. War doesn’t make us hide under tunnels like Israelis can

+1 No one expects the military to bomb elementary schools. Stop trying to justify this incident.

No one expected the US military to bomb elementary schools. And, they wouldn't have, but for Hegseth and Trump and their derangement over the "queering of the military" or whatever the F else imaginary grievance du jour that makes them think they need to tear up longstanding rules of engagement, ignore Geneva Conventions, upend JAG corps etc.

So that's one f'ed up thing going on. And it's new. But we Americans hope to throw those m-f-ers out and put them on trial. Wish Iran could say the same.

But it's pretty much a given for Russia to do that to Ukrainian schools. Along with Iran and Hezbollah etc. They've bombed schools, hospitals and civilian targets with impunity. And without accountability to the international community, what's the point of even expecting accountability? We can't have a UN Security Council that gives their buddies a pass for war crimes, whether it's Israel, or whether it's Iran, Russia, China or anyone else - even the US. Currently those institutions have shown themselves to be impotent, pointless and useless. And it sucks.

None of it's justifiable or excusable, nobody should get a pass - even those who think they deserve some kind of morality pass because they hate the US and Israel. And, along with it, the bad-faith "negotiations" that are straight up delusional. It's the perfect set-up to lead nations into wars. Our whole global community system is broken.

Why wouldn't you expect the US military to attack a school? The were reported strikes in schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Why should Iran be any exception

I just asked AI to give a synthesis in response to your accusation - the response is that accidents happen, but to ascribe intentionality and evil intent or to claim it's a widespread and frequent phenomenon to be expected significantly misses the mark:

Short answer: no—there is not evidence of widespread, independently corroborated cases where the U.S. military knowingly and deliberately attacked schools as schools in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, or Yemen. What does exist is a grim record of schools being hit, sometimes with very high civilian casualties, in strikes the U.S. has variously described as mistakes, bad intelligence, misidentification, or collateral damage near what it claimed were legitimate military targets.

In all of those theaters, you can find documented incidents where school buildings, madrassas, or school buses were struck—often investigated by the UN, human‑rights groups, or journalists. In some cases, those investigations concluded the U.S. failed to take sufficient precautions, used flawed intelligence, or acted with reckless disregard for civilian life. But that is still legally and factually different from proven, intentional targeting of a known school as a school. There is no established pattern—backed by independent investigations—that the U.S. ran a campaign of deliberately attacking schools knowing they were purely civilian educational facilities.

No established pattern of deliberate targeting of schools. That's based on broad independent investigations by the UN and human rights groups and journalists.

The US conducted tens of thousands of airstrikes in Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, and Yemen. Comparatively, the numbers of claimed schools that were hit are barely double digit, out of tens of thousands of airstrikes. That's a 0.1% error rate which is significantly lower than any military in history. Is it excusable? No. Could it be better? Yes. But for any critic also engaged in warfare to claim some kind of moral superiority is an absolute farce.

A bit amusing how you're defending the same regime that just attacked a desalination plant, a bank, and an oil field that will result in one of the biggest ecological disasters in recent history reminiscent of a dirty bomb where the population will be poisoned and experience harms like cancer for decades to come.

Dude. You need better news sources. Iran has bombed desalinization plants, oilfields and refineries all across the Gulf states. As for banks, Iran hasn't used missiles but much more insidious measures like cyber attacks on US, Israeli and Gulf State banks and financial networks.

Let's not forget about the widespread global economic and environmental disaster unfolding as a result of Iran choking off the Strait of Hormuz, cutting nations off from needed food supplies, from needs for fertilizer and other crucial goods. Iran is indiscriminately firing on vessels. Even Chinese tankers turned back, after seeing vessels ahead of them being put at risk. India is already in an LPG shortage crisis. Iran is at war with the entire world.

The foundation of your comment is that Iran has no right, none, to self-defense.

Since when does legitimate self defense include firing on random civilian vessels?

Do you even listen to yourself or bother to think this stuff through before posting?

Since the time our government on Israel's interest bombed a school and also torpedo an unarmed ship returning from a friendly summit!

Were you this concerned when Iran was murdering thousands of its own people who were protesting their murderous regime? You know, before the war even started? Funny how we never hear about that from you disingenuous clowns.
DP

So, the regime murdering Iranian people gives US and Israel permission to murder Iranian children?

The Iranian regime knowingly and intentionally targeted and murdered 30,000 of its own unarmed civilians and is now raining thousands of unguided cluster munitions targeting civilians all across Israel.

The source of these 30,000+ figures (which is over 4x other estimates) are all affiliated with groups actively involved for the past 47 years in the effort to topple the Ayatollahs.

Even one death is horrible, of course, but let’s not pretend that Pahlavi’s crew making claims like these make them true. They may be true, but my sense is that they are dubious (at best).

Regardless, these 30,000+ claims are continually used to derail analysis of what WE have done. We don’t need Whataboutism games going back and forth to examine the facts and accept responsibility for our actions. Disingenuous is too kind of a word to describe those engaging in this scheme.

DP. Every reliable western news source has reported in the range of 20-30,000 protesters dead. You can't seriously be claiming that western, mainstream sources are spewing out propaganda, while at the same time believing *Iranian* sources?? I mean, seriously?

Also, funny that we haven't seen any mourning over the burials of these thousands of protesters, yet all Iran can talk about are the 140 girls who died in the airstrike. Could that be because IRAN was responsible for murdering thousands of their OWN citizens, but would like the world to forget?